chris heff

It’s because of Mayfield’s annoying commercials.

From Tonawanda to NYC, to Charleston SC, to Venice Beach CA, back to NYC, Delray Beach FL for last 30 years.

Lived on a boat about that size for a few months, it was great unless there was prolonged bad weather. Couldn’t get anything to dry out. You realize how much less you can get along with. Bristol is a very nice boat and made back when they laid up a lot of glass making the hull. Lived in Charleston for a little while, loved it there.

I tried to look it up, but who has more 3rd and 4th down conversions, Diggs or Beasley?

It gives him leverage. He doesn’t have to stay at Clemson for another year he just has to threaten he will. If it’s the Jets or Jags doesn’t matter, he could use it to force a trade.

Mine’s fine, don’t use it as much as I used too. Oh you meant Taron Johnson.

I’d include the Bosas mom, because she created those two.

Who was the RB that didn’t make that catch? Ronnie Harmon?

Rams - Roman Gabriel to John Hadl is a stretch, I think James Harris came after Hadl. Washington - Jurgensen to Kilmer was odd they kind of went back and forth for awhile. Most didn’t think Theismann could play in the NFL, didn’t he go to CFL first? But okay KC - Smith to Mahomes is a maybe, KC traded up with you know who for Mahomes. They didn’t see a future worth Smith and that was pre-injury. So that’s a definite maybe. My point exactly. To paraphrase, it’s hard to find a QB in the NFL.

I agree

No, tried Tom Flores and the Dan Darragh and eventually Dennis Shaw. Shaw had one good year.

That trade still pisses me off and was 14 when it happened. Ferguson was a good QB and a tough SOB. Played a playoff game against Chargers with a broken ankle. Or Elvis

Jury still out, but okay.

That is true, I guess my point was it is hard to transition from one good QB to another. There is some luck involved, one has to come available in free agency, or available in the draft. Here’s another exercise. Go through every franchise and come up with great and good QBs. The Bills, Kelly great, Kemp and Ferguson were good. I think Josh will be great, but I’m a well known homer.

My point exactly, any season there is not 32 guys on the planet that can be good let alone great franchise QBs in the NFL. It is hard to fill that position.

What I was getting at, was transitioning from a QB that has had a long history of success with a franchise, to a new good to great QB. The Pats troll was making the case that replacing Brady and being competitive in playoffs was going to be no big deal because the team and coach are so good. Chargers had given up on Brees. Cowboys verdict is still out, they moved on from Romo, but even before injury they seemed reluctant to pay Prescott. Chiefs traded up for Mahomes, they didn’t view Smith as long term option. Ravens is a yes.

About 180 miles west Delray Beach FL

Nice day down here isn’t it?

That’s true but do you think the Patriots have all the other pieces? The troll seemed to think either the did or one draft and one free agency could solve everything.

If we add Romo to Prescott and all of Ethan’s we have only come up with 13 or 14 times in about 70 years where there has been good QB succession. That is not a lot considering the number of franchises. The Patriots fan didn’t consider Cam to be a “bridge” because even he had come to realization that Cam is done.

Seattle okay Dallas I went back and added Cinci, yup Altanta maybe? Vikings maybe? Chiefs, no there is a bunch of okay guys there. If you go down that road you have to start adding Colts, Unitas to Domres, to Jones.

Firstly, my God you are handsome! Isn’t Cam “bridge QB” number one?

I agree, I was being nice.

Last week a Patriot fan trolling this site wrote that Patriots don’t need much to get back to being contenders, because of great coaching staff, organization, and players returning that opted out. With up coming draft and free agency all they heed to do is find QB of the future and, or, as he put it a “bridge QB”. Not to mention some WRs and TEs. This got me thinking, how often do teams go either directly, or quickly from one great or even good QB to another? I’m sure I’m missing a few so help me out. Packers twice, don’t remember Tobin Rote, but they went from him to Bart Starr. Then the obvious, Favre to Rogers. Raiders went from Lamonica to Stabler and then fairly quickly to Plunkett. Niners (another obvious one), Montana to Young. Patriots, Bledsoe to Brady. Colts Payton Manning to Andrew Luck. That’s all I can think of and that’s not many and that covers about 70 years. Doesn’t appear to be easy. Forgot this one a bit marginal, but Cowboys went fro Meredith to Morton to Staubach.

QBs bridge or not are not that easy to find. If they were everyone would do it. The Bill O’Brien story isn’t defined by his record it is defined by his ego. He thought his teams won because of him, he traded arguably the best WR in football for a box of tape. It is mind boggling in its arrogant stupidity. The Cleveland franchise for which Belichick worked moved to Baltmore in 1996 one year after Belichick was fired. John Harbaugh is a pretty good coach. Their former GM, Ozzie Newsome was inducted to the hall as a player and may very well be inducted a second time as GM.