chris heff

So far my favorite play of the season may be Newton strip. I don’t want this game to come down to that. I’d like to crush them. I won’t be happy until Belichick retires I think that will relegate the Patriots to history.

How did you do that? I tried multiple times and ways. And it was exactly the same two photos.

If Daboll does leave I hope Joe Douglas hires him, it would be confusing since they look like identical twins. i tried to post a photo of each, but site won’t let me.

Before we get carried away they did it for the money. That being said I expected this to be a disaster, it flirted with that at times. I am thankful for the distraction.

It’s because of Mayfield’s annoying commercials.

From Tonawanda to NYC, to Charleston SC, to Venice Beach CA, back to NYC, Delray Beach FL for last 30 years.

Lived on a boat about that size for a few months, it was great unless there was prolonged bad weather. Couldn’t get anything to dry out. You realize how much less you can get along with. Bristol is a very nice boat and made back when they laid up a lot of glass making the hull. Lived in Charleston for a little while, loved it there.

I tried to look it up, but who has more 3rd and 4th down conversions, Diggs or Beasley?

It gives him leverage. He doesn’t have to stay at Clemson for another year he just has to threaten he will. If it’s the Jets or Jags doesn’t matter, he could use it to force a trade.

Mine’s fine, don’t use it as much as I used too. Oh you meant Taron Johnson.

I’d include the Bosas mom, because she created those two.

Who was the RB that didn’t make that catch? Ronnie Harmon?

Rams - Roman Gabriel to John Hadl is a stretch, I think James Harris came after Hadl. Washington - Jurgensen to Kilmer was odd they kind of went back and forth for awhile. Most didn’t think Theismann could play in the NFL, didn’t he go to CFL first? But okay KC - Smith to Mahomes is a maybe, KC traded up with you know who for Mahomes. They didn’t see a future worth Smith and that was pre-injury. So that’s a definite maybe. My point exactly. To paraphrase, it’s hard to find a QB in the NFL.

I agree

No, tried Tom Flores and the Dan Darragh and eventually Dennis Shaw. Shaw had one good year.

That trade still pisses me off and was 14 when it happened. Ferguson was a good QB and a tough SOB. Played a playoff game against Chargers with a broken ankle. Or Elvis

Jury still out, but okay.

That is true, I guess my point was it is hard to transition from one good QB to another. There is some luck involved, one has to come available in free agency, or available in the draft. Here’s another exercise. Go through every franchise and come up with great and good QBs. The Bills, Kelly great, Kemp and Ferguson were good. I think Josh will be great, but I’m a well known homer.

My point exactly, any season there is not 32 guys on the planet that can be good let alone great franchise QBs in the NFL. It is hard to fill that position.

What I was getting at, was transitioning from a QB that has had a long history of success with a franchise, to a new good to great QB. The Pats troll was making the case that replacing Brady and being competitive in playoffs was going to be no big deal because the team and coach are so good. Chargers had given up on Brees. Cowboys verdict is still out, they moved on from Romo, but even before injury they seemed reluctant to pay Prescott. Chiefs traded up for Mahomes, they didn’t view Smith as long term option. Ravens is a yes.

About 180 miles west Delray Beach FL

Nice day down here isn’t it?

That’s true but do you think the Patriots have all the other pieces? The troll seemed to think either the did or one draft and one free agency could solve everything.

If we add Romo to Prescott and all of Ethan’s we have only come up with 13 or 14 times in about 70 years where there has been good QB succession. That is not a lot considering the number of franchises. The Patriots fan didn’t consider Cam to be a “bridge” because even he had come to realization that Cam is done.

Seattle okay Dallas I went back and added Cinci, yup Altanta maybe? Vikings maybe? Chiefs, no there is a bunch of okay guys there. If you go down that road you have to start adding Colts, Unitas to Domres, to Jones.