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Look, I'm a little P/O'd by what I've been reading but I'll make this as quick as I can.
Just about all I've been reading is how Brohm is a bum because all he did was make a lousy imitation of Fitz and Edwards..... duh! Well, lord almighty fellas, I mean think about it; isn't that really quite an accomplishment when you think about it? After 5 weeks with the team, after 3 little days working with the first team who's names he hardly knows; making his first start ever in the biggies; playing behind undoubtedly the worst OL in the league; saddled with an incredibly stupid game plan devised by possibly.... no, I mean surely the worst coaches in the league, hey..... not Manning, Rivers, Brees, Brady, none of them could have looked good QB'ing the bumbling Bills yesterday. None of them!!
I'm not saying that Brohm is the answer but I am saying that MAYBE he is and we just need to take a step back and really evaluate given the circumstances.
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i think the bills may have already talked to who they want as gm and that gm has said talk to these coaches etc.
That's what I was thinking. Hope that's what happened. Weis is a genius on the "O" side, then hire a a good coordinator on the "D" side and WALLA!!!
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This is the best compilation I could come up with:
Young guys we should trade for and develop (not named Brohm) - Curtis Painter or Drew Willy (both colts)
Someone we could trade for and start next year -
1.) Troy Smith (he's VY but a better passer and a little slower)
2.) Delhomme (he might just need a change of scenery, worth a shot if cut)
3.) Brodie Croyle (has shown flashes the past 2 years, never got a chance cause he was thrown into the fire immediately)
4.) Pennington (we'd be a missed tackle away from Fitzpatrick again, and Lee would never see a deep ball)
5.) Losman (yes i still think he's got something)
6.) Todd Collins (still has a rocket, not many miles on him, and has shown that he has grown since he was last a Bill)
7.) Alex Smith (I doubt that San Fran wants to dump him now, but if they go back to Shaun Hill I'd like him)
---side note - he is the reason I don't think we should give up on Trent yet Or should've given up on Losman.
and the one guy I'd LOVE to get if we could pry him from the Eagles is
8.)Kevin Kolb... guy looks like Aaron Rodgers just biding his time behind an HOFer and we know McNabb isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Our best bet is clearly the trade route for one of these guys. probably the most upside is Kolb with Delhomme being the best bet of the veterans.
So there you have it. Thats my research from top to bottom of every roster in this league. Brandon, if you are listening, start dangling a 3rd rounder for some of these guys...
They all suck or are unavailable.....and we'll know more about Brohm in a few hours won't we?!
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I agree with your assessment about the O-line. I really would like to see the Bills use a 2nd pick on a LT. I like Bell, but I am not sure he is a starting LT yet, or ever will be. I like his athleticism, but he needs to get stronger. I like our inside 3. I think Woods should be fine. If he had just broken bones, then no problem. Bones heal, and are stronger than before. If he had nerve or ligament damage, then it could be a while.
In the draft, I think we should get a LT early, preferably in the 2nd, and get another guard late in the draft. It think this is how we should address the O-Line. We now have a bunch of young players that have some playing experience, due to injuries.
Make the LT a 1st rounder, BBgun. A future pro bowlin' DOMINANT guy!!!!
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So $hanahan turns down Buffalo, much to the happiness of pinheads like John Clayton because the alien does not want to travel to Buffalo in Jan....everyone PLEASE stop this...we are NOT getting an elite coach...elite players will NEVER EVER COME HERE!
ONLY hope and I mean the ONLY hope: Get REAL lucky with a GM hiring, and strike it HUGE in the NFL Drafts.
End of story.
F Shanny and F ESPN.
Your ignorance is overwhelming, Circle man.
First of all, a coach, especially a 57 year old guy probably on his last job, wants to go to a soon-to-be-winner, that is a team with a ready QB which Buffalo obviously does not have (although I for one cross my fingers on Brohm).
The majority of players, Circle man, will go where they see a good staff in place (hey, we ARE hoping the Bills hire a good staff, right?) and where they receive top dollar. Ralph seems willing to spend the bucks to build the team right now before he has to soon meet and explain to his maker why he has slacked off from building a winner all these years.
In short, maybe...just maybe, Scrooge's pocketbook is now open somewhat and you can say what you want but if it is, the players will imitate the Field of Dreams and come in......and you can take that to the bank, Circle man!!
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just curious with what people think brohm would have to do these next 2 games to be a starter week 1 next season. does anyone think it's even possible with only 2 games experience. if he has 2 great games i think we should still take a qb in the draft, but should we waste a first round pick on a qb if he has two great games. u don't want to invest so much money in a guy from the draft that may turn out never seeing the field if it turns out brohm does start week 1 next season. which is why i think if brohm has 2 great games and i mean 2 possible 300 yard passing games with like 4 td's and an INT in that strech. that qb should still be an option in the draft but maybe more towards the later rounds. what do u guys think?
You're talking pretty dumb I'm thinking, theman.
If Brohm comes anywhere near those figures with his total lack of preparation we should all get down on hands and knees and pay homage. It's NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE!
BUT with a good showing....... well, it would be nice to be able to take a chance on him next year instead of being forced to draft a QB high.
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Please don't forget Orapko is playing OLB not DE. What a shock the Bills coaching staff didn't realize Maybin could have made more of an impact this season at OLB. I had no problem with him being a situational pass rusher to start the season. But when Kawika Mitchell went down Maybin should have been moved to OLB especially when the team had the bye week to get him ready.
3-4 fellas.... the 3-4 is the place for him as an OLB.
In case you think he's just a DE you have to consider that a OLB in the 3-4 he'd be our fastest LB.
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If Brohm comes out and shows that kind of potential then we are going in the right direction not the wrong......
We have other needs....but in the needs of OL and QB....we are going to have to decide which direction we are going to go
- I wanted Brohm when he came out in the draft....the kid looked great in college and put up the productive numbers.
- If Brohm shows promise....we go LT in the 1st round.....EASILY.....it would even be great if we could trade down a bit and pick up another good player because we need a LB or DT.
- This OL needs to be SEVERELY upgraded.....we will not get consistant QB play until that is solidified......It would also not break my heart if we just stand firm and take our LT with that top ten pick....we NEED talent there.
I disagree with your final paragraph, esp. the word SEVERELY! IMO given injury recovery I think that we are AT LEAST adequate at 4 of the 5 with LT obviously the kicker. That just might be our #1 draft choice.
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We will learn nothing about how good Brian Brohm is. Typically it takes about 4 to 5 weeks of film for defenses to effectively scheme a QB, which explains why Mark Sanchez went from "Sanchise" to "Suck" around week 6. Even if Brohm plays well, it really doesn't mean anything in determining how good a player he is for next year. The best case scenario is that he sucks and its easy to determine he is not the answer. If he plays well, it may give the Bills false hope that he can be their QB next year and they might not be so inclined to take one in the draft with a high pick, which they desperately need to do...
Your premises is not very thoughtful, matter2003. We WOULD in fact learn something about Brohm in the same way that the Jets learned about Sanchez, and that is that is has a lot of ability and in time I have no doubt will put it together and be a fine QB. It's called a learning process, matter guy.... you know, like it takes time and experience....knock knock knock!
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I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I do think that the Bills have a major rebuilding job in front of them to bring the franchise back to a playoff level. Yes, things may be worse than you think.
The reality is that the Bills need a strarting QB, two offensive tackles and upgrades at linebacker. Add in the uncertainty of Schobel's return (with Denney a free agent, Ellis a bust and Maybin a potential bust), Owens' return (with Reed a free agent and Hardy a potential bust), and the severity of some of the in season injuries (Butler, Wood, Mitchell and McGee), and the Bills may be facing, at a minimum, the need to replace talent at DE and WR as well, and possibly other positions. Even if the Bills find a talented QB in the draft, it will likely take a couple of years before he is playing at a high level. With the defense, although the pass defense was decent, it is unclear to me whether this is because of their strong play or because the rush defense was so poor. Clearly, the team may need upgrades at DT (in addition to the need at LB and DE).
Then again there may be an optimistic way of looking at it......
----We MAY be able to go with Brohm; at least for next year. Who knows, huh?
----Butler and Wood have a good chance of a full recovery leaving us 1 LT short of a potentially above average OL.
----WR I say we're not as weak as people think, but look to FA and draft wisely.
----On the "D" strictly my opinion BUT if we go to a 3-4 and Schobel likes what he sees in Mgt, etc and stays I think we at least have a heck of a nucleus of a good "D". Look... the deep 4, 5, and 6 DB's are set, then at LB's Mitchell, Poz, and MAYBIN (yeah, a natural switch for him), and that leaves needing one more either by draft or FA. Then on the DL, start with Schobel, for another year or two anyway, while IMO the other DE currently would have to be a Kelsey and Spencer Johnson split or of course draft or FA; and obviously the NT would be a giant priority. Count it, that's only 2 or 3 players short!
Not perfect I grant you, but not too shabby either. A good draft to go along with it, good coaching, avoid injuries for once, and a 10-6 playoff scenario is very possible.
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The Bills have really sunk to an unbelievable level. Why is Fitzpatrick a gametime decision?
1. He stinks when healthy, so why even consider playing him when he is dinged.
2. The Bills have nothing to play for other than finishing out the season.
3. Fewell is not coming back as head coach next year, so give it up Perry.
4. Brohm is healthy, so why is there any other option. If he does poorly the Bills can, and will, spin it that he was put in a bad
position - oline devastated, new to the system, timing with wr.
Like many times this year, I find my self saying - "I just don't get it!"
Gotta agree with you there, pal. But isn't that the way that the current Bills do things?
Let's put our hands together and hope that a new regime has a different/better mentality.
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You're supposed to believe everything that comes from OBD, including the hype on players who've never played a down in the NFL. Bowen was a tackling machine at Iowa State, but returning from an ACL tear and having not played in the league is not something a reasonable fan should expect to work. That, and Demetrius Bell becoming a quality NFL starter. These two story lines will only grow as the season approaches, and it's an effort to excuse the front office for not pursuing proven NFL players.
2106 posts from you, Vet, and I've yet to see an even semi positive word from your keyboard yet. The Bills may have their problems... but unlike you, personality isn't one of them!!
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Thanks for illustrating my point. It HAS been a year for Tom Brady, and, he is still not back on the field at Pats OTAs. And not at 100% from all reports.
IT TAKES A YEAR, MIN!!! Live with it; Hardy will not see the field meaningfully if at all, until November.
You're what's respectfully known as a hardhead, zazie....also, it's become obvious that you're on the wrong end of the argument beating a dead horse and looking more and more stupid on each of your posts. Do yourself a favor and give it up.
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Play considerably better than he did before his injury. He should start by not dropping so many passes. I'm not ready to write him off as a bust, but he needs to show improvement when he gets back on the field.
He's officially "credited" with 2 drops, FISH!!!
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true
We have the cap room to get Jones and the other guy with the more difficult to spell/pronounce name. They are the 2 biggest needs we still have. SIGN THEM NOW for flip's sake and lets go win a super bowl. The Bills have the opportunity to turn a solid-very good off season into an amazing-possibly best ever off season if they strike now.
I disagree wholeheartedly on Jones! I say play the 2 rooks at the Guards, Butler and Walker at Tackles, let the chips fall where they may and thank ya ma'm, I think that'll turn out just fine!
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You tell me the science behind knowing to put the best players on the field vs. putting horrible ones on the field. Please don't tell me that article actually pointed something out to you that wasn't already common sense, because that would be embarrassing.
There is no research in that article that proves his conclusion, which has been common knowledge since the dawn of man. Putting players on the field that can execute your offense? Wow... that is astonishing. I sure hope you didn't need that article to point that philosophy out to you.
It really is hard to pay too much positive attention to someone who posts with an avatar that has a character with a dong in his mouth. Really stupid and tasteless, man, even though it characterizes a hated foe...still dumb and a poor reflection on ans4e64!! Give it up, dummy!
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Ah, point taken. It's would be interesting to see what he is closer to. Either way, IMO, I'd take him at 220 lbs and be very happy with it.
I certainly could be wrong but he probably let his weight drop lower than intended and now in the offseason, realizing this significant drop in weight and it's undesirable consequenses, he'll probably take measure during the upcoming season to prevent that happening again. At least I would think so.
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Bell has never played in a NFL game at any position. Before being inactive all 16 games last season, he played three years at a low level D1 program. He, IMHO, was a two year project coming out of Northwestern State in 08. He needs another year to develop strength and shouldn't be in the picture besides depth until 2010
Langston Walker is just big and fat.
He played LT sparingly in Oakland, even after Robert Gallery couldn't cut it. If he wasn't good enough on the league's second worst franchise, he shouldn't be good enough in Buffalo. It's a flat out bad gamble to expect him to make a move to a position in his 8th season that he's never played more than 2 games straight.
You stated that Bell never played in an NFL game before and only played 3 yrs at a D1 program but 2 quick points, Vet; first, Peters never played T at ANY LEVEL at all before the Bills and it didn't take him very long to progress; and second, Bell was in fact on the 53 man roster all last year and therefore at least did practice with the big boys all long.
Walker big and fat... hmm, guess he is, but he's also pretty good, and when he had problems in Oakland at the LT position, that was about 5 years or so ago and he's undoubtably come a long way since then.
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I agree. IMO, DB is the Bills deepest position. I'd put us up against any team for quality players and depth. But, what will make them look like world beaters is heat on the QB. That, wasn't addressed nearly enough from my perspective.
Best way to rid a sniper? Rattle the rifle!
Heat on the QB is addressed in 2 different ways actually.... 1st round draft choice, check, and Schobel's anticipated return to full health. Maybin is being worked out on the left side and with Schobel on the right....hmm, looks like a lot of potential pass pressure there. Here's hopin' anyway.
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Very good article. Man, the progression of everyone on our offensive line, not just the two rookies but all 5 spots, is really going to be the key to the amount of success we have on the field this season. It seems as though the right mix of personell may finally be in place, now we need to pray that they learn their roles and blocking schemes and form a team out there in order to bring it all together. Anyone else think that this season is going to ride on the coaching success of Sean Kugler more than anyone else not named DJ? I hope he comes through.
Maybe it's a good thing that they have an extra pre-season game this year!
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We actually tried a few times to trade up to get him but the asking price was too high.
The Lions coaches were ballwashing him during their mini-camp last week, too.
I'm ecstatic with the man that we selected at TE, not to mention the fabulous position, 4th round being an absolute steal. Look, just off the top of my head lets give Pettigrew a 10 on blocking and Nelson a 5 but know what? HE WILL DEVELOPE INTO A GOOD BLOCKER! IMO he'll probably become, say about an 8.
As far as receiving, the numbers will be somewhat reversed. Whereas Pettigrew will be a very fine possesion receiver, our man Nelson will be possesion, midrange, homerun, you name it and chances are he will excel at it.
We got a good one, Bills fans, and anyone who feels poorly about not getting Pettigrew, get over it!! We got a good one!! We needed a TE who was predominantly a dangerous receiver, not a blocker, and we got him...in spades!!
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I can't think of a single position with MAYBE the exception of punter that wasn't better on the '91 team. From top to bottom that team was better in every single aspect of the game.
I love optimism but your assertion is just nuggin futz!
You're fulla negativity cramp, Mike. The receivers are easily on par with the '91 squad, and I have watched and cheered for both extensively. Lynch, if he'd get his head on straight, and if the OL gells, is not far behind Thomas, and the OL has a BIG chance to come together and be dominant, much like the '91 guys.
The big difference, of course, is Edwards to Kelley.... sad to say that it ain't in the cards!! But that don't mean that TE can't be good!!
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Worst vertical, worst broad jump, both measure explosion. Antione Caldwell/OC/Alabama had a better broad jump than Harris and he's 300lbs+. C'mon now
It's hard to argue with that, but look at this clip and tell me he looks slow, uncoordinated, etc.....
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d...ressive-players
I don't know, but he sure doesn't look that slow to me, especially if you figure him as a LB vice DB.
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assuming Evans and Owens are healthy as #1 & #1A...... when the bills go to three wideouts, i would expect Josh Reed to come in next as an inside guy. over the past two seasons he has proven his worth. when they go to 4 wideouts, i would expect Roscoe parrish as an inside guy. i see Johnson backing up evans & owens outside. i think hardy is going to be a non factor early on and possibly a bust, he is slow, a poor route runner, has bad hands and is coming off injury, he is tall tho....i would actually be interested in bulking him up and moving him to tight end.
Your post requires multiple responses:
1) Three (3) wideouts? - I'd LOVE to see 3 wideouts PERMANANTLY! K-Gun revisited! Evans, Owens, Reed, and Shawn Nelson.... give T.E. a little bit of time and ain't NO defense gonna cover all of them!!!
2) Hardy a non factor...slow...bad hands...coming off injury - First, papazoid, he ran a 4.49 in the combine and in case you don't know, that's FAST; bad hands?, not in college, and last year according to the stats he had TWO (2) drops; coming off injury?, that's a non factor. He's due to be 100% by the end of August.
Your post?
Back off Brohm for a minute!
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I'm thinking/hoping that you're right, Alphadawg7. I mean really now, what do we want in a QB?
A good strong arm. Brohm has that for sure!
Quick release. I saw that yesterday!
Poise under pressure. I certainly saw some of that yesterday, especially considering that he BARELY KNOWS THE PLAYBOOK!
Accuracy. Yup! At least on the short ones. Of course the films show that he throws good long ones so here's hoping.
I don't know guys but as for me, sure we've another week to look at him (don't we coach....don't we? Hmmmmm?) but so far I'm thinking hey, do not draft a QB this year!!! Give the man a full training camp, work him to the bone as your first stringer with lots of pre-season work and I have a very strong feeling that he isn't lacking much to be a fine NFL QB.