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I am not saying Leroi is not connected - but I have some doubting questions here... 1. Why would he leak their board? As a fan - if I had access to their board, the last thing I would do is make it public knowledge. (maybe he is not a fan...I sincerely have no idea) 2. A teams draft board seems so guarded - why would they give this information up to someone - especially someone who would leak it on a popular Bills message board? I'm not saying teams our scouring message boards for information - but I certainly wouldn't chance it. IDK...if I am being cynical, I apologize.

I think 2 are first round worthy - Mahomes and Trubisky. But I think 3 go - with Kizer being the third one. Gun to my head...Watson drops to second round. Kizer and Watson should probably be 3rd round picks - they are both first read lock qbs with accuracy issues.

oof. brickwall.

it aint all black and white. multiple ways to look at things. and being that i dont think whaley is a bad Gm - i was giving you the reasons i come to that conclusion. got it?

This is fair - but one could argue: Sammy Watkins - the trade was expensive, especially considering the other WR's in that draft. But what if this guy stays healthy and produces like Julio Jones? Who would be mad at that? I know Atlanta isn't upset anymore - they just had to suffer through a couple injury riddled seasons with him. EJ - they needed a QB, and they went for one, arguably the best one in that draft. Unfortunately, he had to start sooner than he was ready. Plus, it has been reported that he was not next on Whaley's board - Nix pulled the trigger on it. But we can debate that another time. Rex - This has been widely reported to be a Pegula hire. But since he failed, the blame has shifted to Whaley. I do not believe that Rex, nor McDermott were Whaley hires. I believe the Pegulas hand picked both of them. These are all questionable things to have on your resume - no doubt. But until franchise QB's grow on trees - and just can't say Whaley has done a terrible job. The Buffalo Organization was JOKE (a huge freaking JOKE) for 10 plus years. That is a big mess to clean up.

He isnt that bad. I am with you on this. The article is conjecture - look at it this way...If the Bills draft a QB in Rounds 1 or 2, did Whaley lose the supposed argument at QB? That would indicate to me that he won - since Taylor will obviously be supplanted within a year or two. Does anybody actually believe that a former D-Coordinator now has the keys to the castle at OBD? That would be insane.

If there is a willing dance partner, sure! Guessing there is a lot of competition to move back this year - so it will be easier said than done. Would only advise against it if they feel like a star player from their evaluation is there at 10 - then just stay put.

how is this thread not dead? its really not dead? how?? this is right up towards the top of all time stupidest threads...i try not throw that out there lightly. why wont it die???

sooooo....all the guys we didnt make the playoffs with are going to be the reason we dont make the playoffs?

i cannot argue that - Sammy has done nothing to really prove otherwise. The hope is he gets over this hurdle similar to Julio Jones early in his career - and breaks out. actually, to take your point further. by drafting a WR early - if he pans out, perhaps you can let Sammy go after his rookie contract regardless of how he plays, and ride out the cheap rookie contract of your other WR. (unless of course sammy posts a 100 reception, 1500 yd year with 10 tds...just not sure that can happen with our offense)

I don't disagree that drafting a WR is a good idea - I just don't think it should happen in rounds 1 or 2. The Bills are going to be a heavy run first team; and my gut tells me this marginalizes the #2WR position in this offense. I would like to see CB in RD 1, S in RD 2 - and then best available after that regardless of position. Depth is needed across the board. Candidly - I mix beer and football - so my recollection of Seymour is cloudy at best. I recall some glaringly bad plays (he is a rookie after all...) - but was there anything in his play anyone recalls as to give a glimmer of hope for the future?

fun question... just feels like hooker or adams could change the face of our D completely.... corey davis seems nice, but we are going to be a run first team again, and a #2 WR i dont think is as valuable on our team as it would on another. i go hooker

you can put his play in any context you want. it is possible to spin stats in any direction you please. however,the facts all remain the same: 1. He cannot throw an accurate 10-15 yard out pattern. They float - and sail out of bounds more than they should. Which leads to... 2. He is a low velocity thrower - he will never be strong at throwing receivers open. He can float a nice deep ball - but dont confuse that with arm strength. 3. His pocket presence is below average. His sack rate is high because of this - not because he scrambles so much. Watch the tape and watch where he steps in the pocket when under duress. He chooses to step up, left or right incorrectly very very often. Tyrod is fine. That is all. His stat line last year will be his stat line every year so long as he plays in a safe, run first offense where the defense stacks the box. Anytime he faces a pass protect D...he struggles. Why else would Tyrod agree to the contract restructure he did if anyone in the league saw him as something better than his stat suggested? If there were better offers coming, he would have forced the Bills to cut him or take his contract as is (locking him in for 3 years, not 2). Tyrod is fine...so we all better hope we have a Top 5 D in the next year or two...or 8-8 will be the average.

I like watching tyrod play - he does some exciting things. but there are concerns with his game for sure. one thing that really gets me when watching him is his pocket presence. he simply never steps up into the correct spot to avoid trouble. i get that some people will argue against this simply because he makes great runs...but that does not equal good footwork in the pocket. and tyrod is sorely lacking in that department. it is a big reason why he leaves plays on the field IMO

his throwing velocity is mediocre. Throwing a nice touch deep ball does preclude one to have excellent arm strength. Tyrod cannot throw it on a rope so to speak.