Ghost of Rob Johnson

Washington went 4-12 last year and when have they went forward? And in 2007 Miami went 1-15 and the Jets 4-12, is a zero win season required to be considered backwards?

I'm not sure that's accurate as a caller made that assertion and he disagreed with him.

I agree, alot of people wanted Orakpo but what's done is done. It seems as though many would prefer Maybin fail so they can say how right they were. Same with Whitner & Ngata. It's really sad.

It's poorly written in that Brandon is not quoted in the story. The sentence: "But it’s an issue both will worry about when and if it becomes reality" is misleading as it is made to sound as though Brandon is saying it. But if that were the case it would be quoted. Therefore Terry Koshan is the one making the statement that it is something both would have to worry about when and if it becomes a reality. And his opinion is pretty much worthless in my book.

I thought all of the Gaither talk was put to bed in this thread. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...l=jared+gaither

It is not ficticious that the taxes are high in Cortland.

He didn't want to play in Buffalo and his contract was constrictive in regards to trading him and also in regards to keeping a player on the team who didn't want to be here.

Interesting, I wonder what makes the 6th year "voidable."

Please explain how him getting hurt now would prevent future injury?

Right, similar to Bills fans with Donte. And when they don't come through they'll be calling for his head because of all the "blowhard" stuff, just like Donte.

What does that have to do with Ellis?

A defense that is missing it's best player in Revis and another integral part, Jenkins, contemplated retirement before camp opened. They're going to have to rely more on the pass this year, and we saw how that worked out last year against the Bills. 9-7 at best.

I've yet to see that, has there been any numbers published in regards to sellouts? What about for the Bills?

Ralph is so cheap.

Plus the report of multiple players cramping up during yesterdays practice.

End of this week or early next week still is a ways off, especially considering all but three are signed.

They're likely not tackling at all, thus Hangartner getting upset. But I doubt there was any intent to injure, more likely an accidental after the whistle hit, which Hangartner took care of. Like has been said, this is a non story and this type of stuff goes on all the time in camp.

Could you be any more over the top with this? The fans are in the stands and can watch the plays going on unobstructed. It obstructs media from video taping the plays/personnell packages.

Seems speculative, I was wondering if there was anything concrete from the coaching staff etc.

Has their been any word as to what type of 3-4 the Bills will be running this season?

Seems like a standard shuttle run, I'm guessing the 3 trials were timed, and the time you run the 3rd has to be within a certain number of seconds of the 1st. Testing your bodies ability to recover. The distance seems extremely short however.

Did Stroud and Williams not play DT?

Not if they sign Chester Pitts or someone of the like.

Negative, you don't give up assets for free.

What are you rambling about? Incognito was mediocre at best, is a head case who had been kicked off his previous team, and with Wood coming back healthy would have been an uneccessary risk to have on the team. The Dolphins have also lost 2 or their starting 3 D-lineman.