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I was born in the suburbs in the early 60's so when I became aware of football, say 1970, the Bills more or less truly sucked. I was originally a chiefs fan as I fell in love with them in the double OT loss to the Dolphins. This was the Len Dawson, Ed Podalak, Otis Taylor, Willie Lanier, etc chiefs. I lived threw the 70s and all the loses to the fish. I remember getting Dennis Shaws and John Leopolds autographs at local malls. I rooted for the Bills but there wasnt much to root for. I was there, at Rich, when Dempsey missed the chip shot to end the streak. I think we had one wild card in the 70s.
As I said I was a Chiefs fan, and wasnt a hardcore Bills fan, but when I moved to Ohio to go to college, people dissing the Bills started to piss me off and my pride in my hometown kicked in. I remember watching the Knox led Bills against San Diego in the very early 80s, ended in heartbreak and Bill Simpson made some sort of screwup. Since then I was hooked, we had up and downs in the 80s but then the team started to become a winner. It was beautiful. I cherish the superbowl teams, even though they ended in heartbreak, but that was part of being a Bills fan, all the way back to the vision of Dempsey missing the chip shot. It was fun to hang 50 on the Raiders in the AFC championship game. The comeback, when my coworker in PA, called me at halftime to say hows your !@#$ing Bills doing. God it was fun coming in the next day to rub it in his face.
As for Buffalove, and I like that word, I want to say this. You hear on this board so and so move to Florida or so and so moved to California, high WNY taxes, the weather, blah blah blah. My memories of Buffalo were, and are, great, even though I havent lived there since 1981 though my family is still there. I visit regularly. Not everyone who leaves Buffalo moves to some 24/7 beachfront location, making high 6 figures. And those that did probably dont brag too much lately about how the housing bubble, which is the worst in Cali, FLA and Las Vegas. Finding a reasonable 3 bedroom middle class house isnt that difficult in WNY. I lived in Ohio and currently live in PA and like Buffalo 100 percent better. Sorry, but the hometown I thought I wanted to leave in 1980, still beckons, and I hope to retire up there someday. For all the **** about Buffalo weather, it sure as **** seemed the people in WNY sure knew how to enjoy summer-crystal beach, beaver island, niagara falls, weekends at the quary at Sherkston, beach bars (try finding one of those in central PA), all the beaches and vacations at cottages in southern Ontario on the lake, drinking beer with friends at a beach fire, waterskiing, running on sand dunes, lawnfetes. And when the snow falls its on to winter sports, I have plenty of great memories of tobogganing at chestnut ridge on a toboggan which my father made in shop class in the 50s, skiing at Holiday Valley and Kissing Bridge, partying and sledding at Como park in HS. Hmm believe or not Buffalonians dont just sit on their ass and watch TV from Nov-March. I miss a Teds dog and a beef on weck. Yup its true.....not everyday in Buffalo is overcast and gray. I enjoyed the sun and warmth when it was there and I enjoyed the snow when it fell. ONE thing Im sure of, Buffalo and WNY is pretty great place to grow up in or raise a family. Buffalonians have no reason to feel like our city/area is somehow inferior, cause its not. In fact it a pretty awesome place to be raised in and Ill forever be Buffalo proud and wear my Bills hat down here with these Steeler fans. Cause one of these days........the Bills are gonna win it all Im gonna be up there, getting drunk as a skunk with all you other SOBs. .
well played
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If we can get a name can we at least get a description?
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This will be the best pair of pass rushers the Bills have faced so far, and its going to be a test.
Worse case scenario would be if the Saints get out to a big lead early, and allow these two to pin their ears back and get after Trent.
Also, it might allow them to get pressure with only their front 4....which isn't good for the Bills passing game.
A successful running game is got to be key to have any success in this game.
I'm looking foward to see what AVP conjures up to neutralize these 2 guys.
Special K, Ive gotta know who that chick is on your avatar.
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Yaeh ...yeah likely story ... a tour
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Im 30 and lived in Buffalo all but 2 years of my life when I moved to Vegas during the Malarkey years. I have been a fan of the Bills as far as I can remember. Watching Thurman tear up the Dolphins 2-3 times a year (including playoffs), Bruce talking smack and going out and destroying QB's every week, and Kelly throwing TD's to Reed almost every game.
I went to my first Bills game during the 1990 season (i think). I was in the end zone with my dad, uncle and cousin and watched James Lofton catch a TD on the sidelines on the 2nd play of the game and the place went crazy. I remember beating the Jets (i think) and winning the division and I was thinking the goalposts were going to come down like they did before but they didnt (i was so upset).
Ive been to at least one game just about every season since and cant get enough of the game day experience. There is nothing more exciting than getting there early on cold morning in the winter. The feeling when you get out of the car and step onto the parking lot and just look at the stadium and the mostly empty parking lot (its still 8:05) and imagine how great its going to be in a few short hours when your pounding on the seats, jumping up and down when they announce the team. Sends chills across my entire body when the team comes out of the tunnel.
Walking out of the tunnel and walking down to your seat, announcing of the team, the singing of the National Anthem, the fireworks, the flybys (if were lucky) are amazing to me. Might actually be the best part of the game. Well after the feeling of victory as you walk back through the tunnels and onto the concourse are pretty close. I love the experience just as much as I do the Bills. Everything added up is why I will always be a fan and go to every game played here in Buffalo.
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It isn't T.O.'s presence out there that's creating all that room underneath. No. It's magic fairies.
Owens deserves nothing less than a contract that allows him to retire in Buffalo. He came here when NO other premeir receivers would even LOOK at us. This guy's a future Hall of Famer, people. We were a JOKE at the time Ralph contacted him. Our team was rumored to be moving to flipping CANADA, for Christ's sake. People of this town were SERIOUSLY ready to stop going to games anymore. The mood here was FOUL. Terrell Owens came and quietly, YES QUIETLY, took ahold of our hearts and said, "Hey, calm down, it's all gonna be OK." And so far, he's making good.
All the so-called experts on TV are saying how Terrell has already "blown up" at his club, and the haters here have grasped onto the WEAK arguments these yokels are making and have run with them, and frankly, it WOULD be laughable, if it weren't so meanspirited. All T.O. has done since coming here is calm the storm amongst the desperate fans, create a sense of self-worth among his teammates, and make Buffalo less of a joke (to everyone actually paying attention to the FOOTBALL being played here, anyway). And sheesh, how do you get mad at him for the things he's saying?! He says that he thinks Trent should go long more, take some shots downfield, and what does Trent do? Trent goes long a BUNCH the next game. The result? Two long touchdowns and a WIN.
Look, the guy knew that his own reputation was in the crapper back when maybe the crappiest team in the league came calling. B-Lo and T.O are a match made in Heaven. A town desperate for a hero, and a guy who wants nothing more than to BE that hero. The day the Bills and Owens signed their contract, two NFL outcasts got together and said, "We can help each other, I think." And so far, he's done MORE than his part.
Least we could do is recognize how big a gesture that was.
Agreed on just about every point. Its obvious that all T.O. wants is to be loved and looked at like the hero. We can sign him for a 3 year extension after this year and he can retire a Bill and one of the best WR's in the history of the game. The Bills (and should I dare say city) need a guy like this. Someone that picks us up and takes us to the next level. Next year if Owens is with the Bills he obviously will want to be here. Thats good for everyone. The Bills, The city (with the national media and tv shows) will all benefit from having a starpower here and supporting us.
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This is coming from the town that had a courthouse and jail cells in the Vet. They were known for throwing batteries, booing and throwing snowballs at Santa along with many other classy stories. The Vet for years was known as the worst place to go into and play if you were visiting. Not until the Raiders and a few stabbings in the stands did they lose their spot at the top.
I have no problem with our fans or anyone elses in this league when you are the home team. Its the out of towners that come in and act however they feel almost all the time. I happen to be one of the rowdier fans in my section at the Ralph. The thing is I generally dont do anything that others do in my section I just do it a little louder and crazier. Banging on the seats, standing up, yelling, lots of bad words.
We had a guy with a 5 year old (approx) in front of us this past Sunday. Im not one to go out of my way and make things uncomfortable for anyone. I just dont see how anyone who has been to a game before can justify taking their 5 year old to a game and expect not to hear or see some craziness. In the end zone no less. I understand they have every right to enjoy the game just like everyone else. But when it interferes with my enjoyment of the game I generally dont stop just for them. I wasnt the only one kicking the bleachers, in fact I waited until everyone else was already doing it, and they ended up standing so it didnt matter.
My point is that if your one of the people that wants to sit at a game and stay seated in your heated seats, drink your hot cup of coffee, and clap like your at the masters then you are probably at the wrong event. If you like going to the games that much you probably like the crowd with some exceptions, and expect it every game. Of course the people peeing on other people is out of hand, and people having sex in the bathrooms is out of line. But for the most part some loud swearing, yelling, and arguing is to be expected anywhere the fans are passionate about their team.
Ive been to San Diego, Oakland, and San Francisco for games in my life and I must say that San Francisco fans are the worst fans I've ever seen, almost no emotion what so ever. San Diego wasnt far behind. It almost didnt feel like I was at a football game. Oakland is a different story on its own but generally not that bad outside the black hole. My opinion is that if you dont like the rowdiness then you should buy tickets in the family section (thats what its there for) or stay at home on your flat screens, the crowd and excitement is most of the game day experience anyway.
Anyway, Im dont with my rant after I have gotten completely off topic.
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Sure laugh now. but when they pull an Any Given Sunday thing, don't start crying.
You mean AVP would overthrow the HC like Eckhardt did to Pacino? If thats the case, your point would be welcome on this board. Not much love for DJ around these parts.
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And Steve Tasker couldn't make the cut for the 85 Oilers. He got beat out by Herkie Wells, Tim Smith, William Drewery, Steve Bryant and Drew Hill. What is your point?
Pretty sure Chris Carter was cut rather early in his career as well. He only turned out to be one of the best receivers this game has seen. Its also not far off from what was expected out of J. Peters and look how he turned out. The 2nd coming of Bruschi on this board. I agree with you Pete. It is a good pickup and someone that is young and has a ton of potential.
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When did jacksonville get smaller than Buffalo? I mean the reporter indicated that jacksonville is the second smallest city behind GB...that's inacurate.
Buffalo get;s that nod...and fills its stadium!
Metropolitan areas:
Buffalo- 1,254,066
Jacksonville- 1,313,228
Its not by much. But you are right. At least per Wikipedia
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I personally have always liked TO. So I may be biased but I say lock him up for 2 years the second he recieves either his 10th TD, or 1000yrds. I think the 2nd WR position is key to this offense(obvious right?). If you let TO start to think he can sign with another team he may leave. The team Im expecting to make a big play for him after this year might be the Giants. They would be a perfect fit. TO gets his SuperBowl contending team before he hangs em up and the Giants get back another weapon for Eli. Mark it down, I called it here.
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i say keep roscoe, what happens next yr when t.o is gone???what about the special teams threat?????
If were looking at Roscoe becoming a 2nd or even a 3rd WR in the absence of TO next season we will have some severe issues. Trent cant get the ball to his receivers now and hes got Evans and Owens out there. I cant imagine what it will be like w/o Owens and Roscoe taking snaps at #2 or #3, oh wait that would be just like the last 2 years when the offense and passing games have sucked.
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Personally I think Steve Johnson is keeping Steve Johnson on the bench. The best players plays period.
Lets just hope that stays true when Lynch comes back.
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He's keeping Steve Johnson on the bench. The Bills do not have a viable fourth wide receiver as a result.
How many more chances do we give Roscoe to prove he can be effective from scrimmage? Trade him while he still has value...because that value is diminishing by the week in my opinion.
agreed
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Wow! Are you even watching the same team I am?!?!?!? Seriously. I think you have a pretty big bias against Lynch.
1) I have seen our o-line get crushed, Lynch jitterbugs behind the line caving in on him, picks a spot and drives defenders from 1 yard behind the line of scrimmage for a 4 yard gain.
2) Lynch DOES NOT need forward momentum to do this!!! Jackson is NOT a soft runner but Lynch runs harder and it's by a significant easily observable margin!!
3) Comparing Lynch and Jackson elusiveness is very difficult. They are BOTH elusive!!! They do it in different ways. Lynch is more that Barry Sanders stop in his tracks, shimmy, slip and slide to break tackles and power through a guy type RB. Jackson uses his speed and is a more fluid open field runner that glides side to side to avoid tackers.
4) I have no idea what you are trying to say with years in the league. Jackson being the older guy with more miles on him has better long term potential and the guy that has yet to play his first game of his 3rd year his career could be almost over? That is just completely back-assward.
Again I say WOW!!! I think you developed your opinion of the RBs before actually impartially observing their play.
Im sorry, I dont think I can ever read another one of your posts EVER! Did you really just compare Marshawn Lynch to Barry Sanders? I have no idea what you see in ML to make that comparison but I think you might be smoking too much of Marshawns stash. And I dont think anyone has developed an impartial opinion of either of the RB's play since we have had them both on this team for 2 full seasons.
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I can be happy with that assumption.
Agreed,
I never said I didnt want both. I was simply voting the question and answering with my opinion. But yes, we have both and Im happy for that. Lets all hope Lynch doesnt do anything stupid in the future to jeopordize that.
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mrags throws that theory out the window, he seems to be a Jackson supporter but is throwing around childish names and acting angry. As for me, I support both of them, they both wear a red helmet with the charging buffalo on them.
I also support both of them. Stated that several times in my posts through this thread. Again, I never called you any names. Billsfreak!!! Dont be mad, Im not.
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Hey Girly Freak I didn't even say who I thought was the better of the two, I was disputing how this individual knew for a fact that he (Jackson) was in better shape, smarter, better receiver, etc., like he was a personal trainer, doctor, teacher, etc. of both of them-things that he in know way could know. Surprised that he didn't say he knew Jackson cooks a better lasagna too? Why do you put up stats that aren't even accurate, my memory of the games I watch as you so dumbly put it which included monday night's disaster, Jackson had a TD reception, your stats have him with "0" TDs. For your info, there hasn't been a game in over 10 years that I haven't seen, you probably can't say the same, and even if you can, you must not understand what you are watching. I never said anything was crap either, but I will now, your f*cking post was crap, why don't you read the post you are responding to before you empty your blowhole. The only thing accurate in your post is the opinion that Jackson might not hold up to the weekly wear and tear, as he is a finesse back compared to Lynch. Do your homework before you come to school little boy.
Well, I wasnt going to start calling names but apparently you are so stupid you dont realize your own screen name. Billsfreak, you might want to write that down in case you forget it again
. You are right, no way anyone would know the physical shape of Lynch vs Jackson besides their trainer/doctor/teacher. The stats I listed are accurate and correct per NFL.com, last I checked they were a pretty solid source for NFL statistics. I have seen every Bills game with the exception of 1 dating back to 1997 and I happened to be at the Monday Night distaster that you speak of. Speaking of my post, all I stated was my opinion. You apparently think its a fact that Lynch is better than Jackson which is completely impossible to provide factual evidence in any way shape or form to prove it. The stats that I cut and pasted from NFL.com show that Jackson has 10 less catches, more yards, and a higher average per reception while only starting 3 games last season and Lynch started 15. That is a fact. It is a fact that Lynch had the majority of carries, and snaps last year in the Bills offense but Jackson produced more yards after the catch. For your information, it was Lynch that had an 18 yrd TD reception in the 2nd quarter of the Browns game on Monday the 17th. Good job with your useless rant on who know more and who saw what. I did my homework before I posted, you didnt even bother to open the book. Lets sum this all up one more time so you dont get anything confused in the future. I didnt call you a name, I was simply using your screen name as a nick name, Jackson had more yards per reception than Lynch, I have seen every game with the exception of 1 in the last 10+ years, I was at the game that you claim to have seen and know for fact that Jackson had a reception for a TD when it was really Lynch, NFL.com is a credible source of NFL statistics, you dont do your homework when posting, and you think your opinion is proven fact while everyone else's opinions are complete crap.
Thanks for playing. Have a great weekend.
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First, that only shows how useless polls are. Personally, I never vote in them, outside of actual political votes.
Second, "almost everyone" thinks that? Really? As I look, lit's 61 to 38% percent who think only that Jackson is better. NOT that he is a "better blocker, receiver, route runner, and hits his running assignments better than Lynch." Man, are you assuming way way way too much. And by the way, could you tell me exactly where even 61% is considered "almost all."
His being the favorite here could be largely because we've seen him and haven't seen Marshawn, don't you think? The same polls last year had different results. And when Marshawn is running for us again, the results will be different again.
Off the field, I have serious questions about Marshawn. On the field, none at all, not one.
Ok so I apparently over exagerate almost all. Its a 2/3 vote in favor of Jackson at this point. And based on the responses on this board it looks like many are in favor of him overall then Lynch. There is no clear cut way to say who is better or worse. My opinion is that Jackson is a better all around back, and a better receiver and only sacrifices a little bit of running power but makes up for it with elusiveness and quickness.
And to say that we have seen him and not Marshawn might be the worst argument you could make. We have seen them both for the past 2+ years. I have been calling for Jackson to start since last year and will be extremely happy when he tears it up and wins the job outright while Lynch is sidelined for another dumb thing he did off the field that is jeopardizing his football future.
I do not want to sound like a Lynch hater. I happen to like Lynch very much, and will continue to root for him on Sundays. I just dont understand everyone's love for him. The guy isnt all that great. Hes played in 15 games the past 2 years and has barely surpassed 1,000 and 1,100 yards rushing. You dont have to be great to rush for 63 yards a game. I know everyones response will be that Jackson only rushed for 57 yards on Monday. He also had 83 receiving which Lynch could only dream about. Jackson is a gamer, someone you have to game plan for. He can eat you up rushing or receiving. With Lynch all you need to do is stack the box and gang tackle him.
It happens to be my opinion. No one is right about this. The fact is that we are blessed to have both and we need them both. They each have their skills that the other cannot provide. Lynch is great in short yardage. Id still rather have Lynch running the ball if were inside the 5 yard line than Jackson.
My real question is why cant we get both of these guys out on the field at the same time more often?
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1A-You Do for such a retarded post!
Agreed
But ill play along.
Bruschi
Cowherd
Boomer for not picking the Bills
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Dude, you are talking out your backhole on this. I might, repeat might, buy the better attitude part, but the other things you have absolutely nothing to base them on. Shape-how would you know? Smarter-Have you seen their IQ tests? Better receiver? based on what-one 20 yard screen play for a touchdown? This post is nothing but you wanting someone to agree with you, see your family for things like that.
Hate to say it freak but you seem to be outnumbered on this one. The fact that you think his attitude is the best thing Jackson has over Lynch tells many people that you dont watch many games. He is a better receiver based on stats that I listed below for you and its obvious in games. And if you only base your opinion on one 20 yard screen pass and claim its crap then you should go back and watch the games that Jackson has played in the last few years. Almost everyone here agrees he is a better blocker, receiver, route runner, and hits his running assignments better than Lynch. What games are you watching? And you dont have to be a genius to know that hitting someone with your car, or smoking weed with a pistol in your possession isnt a smart thing to do.
Lynch had 47 rec. for 300 yrds and a 6.4 avg with a 42 long 1 TD
Jackson had 37 rec. for 317 yrds and a 8.6 avg with a 65 long and 0 TD's
If Jackson was the featured back he would easily blow Lynch's receptions out of the water. He already has more yards, higher average on both rushing and receiving. The only debate should be if Jackson can hold up to the weekly wear and tear of an NFL season.
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This is a great post. I feel the same way many other posters do on this topic.
I think Lynch is great for short yardage and brute force. No one will question his drive. I do however question his football and overall intelligence. Is it so hard to see that the guy consistantly makes bad decisions? Instead of running through a hole he runs into the back of one of his blockers, or right into a defender instead of trying to avoid him. He also makes decisions like driving around in a car with a gun and weed. I dont think its all that bad to have either. Just because you have a gun doesnt make you a criminal, and just because you smoke pot doesnt mean you are bad either. But common sense would tell you that in your position being in the spotlight you need to make better decisions to do those things in public.
Fred Jackson on the other hand is a model teamate and an all around good guy (from what ive heard). I love how they commented on MNF that this guy played in arena leagues for $200 a game. That is just rediculous. Its obvious the guy has a love for the game. Me makes great decisions on the field. He is a good blocker, tough (not as tough as Lynch) runner, good route runner pass catcher, and even though he is much more elusive than Lynch he doesnt sacrifice much power while doing that.
I am a fan of converting the carries 60-40 in favor of Jackson. Most teams in the league go with a RBBC now and we shouldnt be much different. We have 2 great backs on this team and we should take advantage of the skills of both of them while we have them. But if I was the GM of this team I'd have to take a long look at Lynch and his bad decision making on and off the field before I thought about keeping him.
My 2 cents flame away.
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Well as long as you're going to criticize TO's grammar, may I be the first to point out that you "utilized" the word shout instead of shut.
Sorry dude, but if you're going to play that game...
OMG OWNED!!!
Bills vs Saints
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Bills- 34
Saints- 20
You will see the offense show they can put up numbers. Trent will be near perfect with a few long throws suprising the Saints, and the defense making the big difference by getting Drew's number all day.