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Anyone know about his injury situation? A pro-bowl RT would be huge. Dare I say it would be better than Clabo? What's his situation?
Get er done Buddy!!!
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I know this is going to sound crazy but the naysayers about the line can't have it both ways. When we all saw the Dline blow up the Bears OL the other night, the pessimistic bunch of course had to be quick to say that it's only game 1 of preseason and the Bears OLine sucked and the majority came against thier backups.
Yet when we talk about our Oline they want to state things differently. Of course since the argument works in thief favor they will deny that things take time to develop.
Fact is it was our first game of the preseason and we played adequately on the line against a pretty good Bears defense. Wood at Center makes Ubrik better at RG. Last year Bell got better and was above average. Levitre was above average to good. Our big questions will be on th right side of the line. We tried to adress it with Clabo but couldn't land him. I agree we are very thin, but I'd expect the starters to be just fine as games and experience wears on. Legs just hope no major injuries plague us. I think Hangman will cover all three interior positions just fine. You'll prolly see Wang or Hairston at either OT spot.
Just chill everyone, it is our weak spot, but last year the Line wasn't that bad.
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I can't wait for a fake punt with the new guy so I can yell "Run, Forrest, Run!"
^-----THIS ROFLMFAO
moorman looked like an aids patient at the game. he was so skinny, more skinny that he used to be.
I was gonna say cancer patient. I've noticed that too about him when I saw him at camp. He looks like he was just saved from Aushiwitz.
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If he doesn't get cut he will play until about week 5 or 6 when his season is over with ANOTHER injury. This will mark the end of #24. At least until we pick up another DB in about rd 4 next year.
Personally I'm ok with dumping McGee. He reminds me of all the reasons why we got rid of Evans. He was very valuable early in his career because of his speed and his special teams ability. Unfortunately he isn't that fast anymore, and can't okay special teams anymore because he's so injury prone. Truth is, Jauron made the wrong choice when they resigned McGee and let a younger Greer walk.
McGee just needs to stay healthy and have a solid preseason. McKelvin is a mental liability, and Florence lacks in run support. McGee has never been afraid to lower his pads and make tackles, unfortunately the past 3 seasons he's seen an increase in running backs breaking through the 1st and 2nd level. I am all for the "youth" movement but McGee is an invaluable stop gap for the next season.
I do agree with this however. I think it would be pointless to cut him for no reason. It's not like we have an over abundance of DBs that need playing time. It's a little different from the WR position. Regardless of a cut or injury, He'll still be gone by week 5.
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The great thing about our entire DL and the majority of the front 7 is that the parts are very interchangable.
Dareus could play at DT or DE in both a 3/4 and a 4/3
Williams can play DE and DT in a 3/4 and DT in 4/3
Carrington can play DE in 3/4 or 4/3 or even get some time in at OLB if needed
Merriman can play OLB in 3/4 or DE in 4/3
Kelsey(even though he sucks) can play OLB ine 3/4 or DE in either 3/4 or 4/3
then you've got Troupe, Johnson, Coleman, Batten, White that can all be switched around between 3/4 and 4/3 in similar fashion. Moats and Batten can play every LB spot and I'd expect them to be able to hold thief own at 4/3 DE in a pinch or confusion defensive front. Starting in a 4/3 with thier hands on the ground, then dropping back into coverage while the other OLB blitzes.
We have a lot of different looks. The line looked good last night and I expect a full turnaround from last season.
I'll say it again, I think Heard gets the last spot on the line and looks as good as we all wanted Jasper to look like. At least for a rookie.
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It's a fair point - O-Line was a known weakness for the Bears.
Having said that - NINE SACKS is a lot against anybody.
TWO SACKS IN NINE PLAYS (plus a drawn holding penalty) is an awesome performance for Merriman against anybody.
^-----THIS!!!
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I get so sick of posts like these. Who GIVES A FLYING FANOOTER if we end up sucking this year? We've sucked for TEN DAMN YEARS, can't we enjoy some positives from a frickin preseason game for five damn minutes before someone comes along and lifts their leg on the optimism? We already KNOW we're probably going to have another losing season...you're not telling us anything we're not aware of...but for fux sake, once in a while it's nice to enjoy a little excitement over something the Bills did, misguided though it may be.
^---- what he said x1,000,000
I understand it's just preseason and it's happened every year since Clinton was in office but on a side note, we did have 9 sacks last night with our 1st, 2nd and 3rd string defenses. It's quite a bit of hope that this defense will have a pass rush even if a guy or 2 does go down. It really is looking like it coming together a bit on defense. I'm not predicting top 10 D or playoffs or anything. However 8-8 and 15th on defense doesn't seem like much of a stretch. There are some that will just reply with "great, another 8-8 year and our shot at taking an early QB, or stud in the draft". My reply to that would be that 8-8 under a ball-less Jauron is much different from 8-8 under Gailey. This coaching staff gives me a feeling like were headed in the right direction. I would guess that our line will be the weakest point this year and we pick up the best RT or RG with our first rounder next year, as one of the guys at RT or RG will probably look decent enough to keep. Then Another ILB with our 2nd rounder.
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I liked what I saw last night. But this video sums up my feelings.
youtube.com/watch?v=fTN7Mhv59KA
Lol. I laughed incredibly hard because I pictured Shawn Merriman playing Jackson in that seen.
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Hard to overstat the importance of that. That wins close games, rests the defense, scores more points and makes more wins! Great pick up and it looks like they have a wildcat back up, too! Are we going to become a wishbone offense at times?
Man I'd love to see the wishbone. How bout Brad Smith, Fred Jackson and Roscoe Parrish in the backfield with Johnson and spiller at WR. Sounds freightning to other teams trying to get more than a LB on guys like Smith and Parrish.
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He looked really good last night. I don't know where you heard he got 2 sacks. I thought it was just one. I'll have to go back and watch the tape on it. But overall he looked really good considering it was his first game. He is all that was expected after what the coaching staff though of him last year before the injury. Had some good pressures. I saw him around the ball a lot. I don't expect him to start anywhere out there just yet but I have no doubt you will see him often as he gives breaks to every starter on the LB group at times. The guy looks like he can play everywhere.
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Unfortunately Shadow looked like he did t belong on the field half the time. Got pushed around quite a bit for a 400lb DT. I'd say Heard bats him on the team at this point. But I also am hoping for Shadow to make it too. Hopefully they both beat out Spencer J
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Now that the game is over here's my outlook for the players:
1st and most important, Merriman looks just nasty. IF he stays healthy I would imagine double digit sacks is gonna be as sure a thing as you can get.
Dareus looks really good. Doesn't look like a rookie. Finally the immediate first round impact we've been looking for.
Williams is going to be even better sitting next to these guys. If were healthy, offenses are going to have troubles blocking all these guys.
Aaron Williams will be a starter in time. He's going to put McGee or McKelvin at the nickle by the end of the year.
The OLine is really thin. I like the left side of the line but worried about the right side. You could see Hangman start at RG by the opener.
Rosevelt is really good for an UDFA. He catches everything he gets his hands on. Runs good routes. I'm not saying he'll be a 2 but he's got promise.
Brad Smith is going to be in plenty.
Jasper looks like a project and he better get better soon because Heard is fighting for a job too and right now he's looking much better.
Troupe and Carrington both looked better than last year. I have high hopes for them.
Couldn't get a good look at the WRs without Lee but Stevie did have 3 catches in a quarter. I'm thinking he'll be just fine.
The pressure of the front 3 or 4 was great all game. 9 sacks is just rediculous I don't care who your playing it's just great to see.
Batten looks like he could be a player. I'd expect him to get time in quite a bit as a backup at just about every LB spot.
Not enough of Moats, Florence, Nelson, and Spiller
Chandler might be our answer at TE. The guy is huge. I love that about him.
With all the cuts and trades of the old regimes players, Moorman might want to put his house up for the sale. The young punter (sorry I don't know his name) looked decent.
That's all I got. Thoughts? Anything you completely disagree with? Anything I missed?
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Easley has been disappointing - physically as well as mentally. He strikes me as a guy who may be prone to the boneheaded play.
Hopefully he just had a case of nerves tonight.
I'm hoping the same. As a gunner he has been near the plays. Should have had the bears returner down inside the 5 but tuier **** field gave way and he slid like he was in mud. I'm still thinking it's a little bit of nerves since it's basically his first game. I'd also think he would play better with more reps on the first team O. Thigpen may have been the unlucky one with a bad line tonight but he wasn't exactly looking good.
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Worse is that he's rarely seeing a double team. I've seen two things he's really bad at right now: following the play and using his hands...both pretty important parts of his job. He doesn't seem to know how to use his hands to get rid of his blockers at all. He just tries to push with his legs and that's it. The more I watch him, the more I can see him going to the practice squad.
I agree 100% it is his first game ever though. I'd like to keep an eye in how he progresses throughout the preseason. Fwiw I don't think he'll be deligated to practice squad until the last round of cuts. We will get a good glimpse of him going forward.
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So far I've seen what I expect out of Jasper. He's defenately a 7th rounder and a project. He has been pretty bad on half the plays. Not gettin much push especially for his size and strength, bad decisions on others. But then there's every few plays where he just gets a great push. So far he can't handle a double team.
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Batten has been in on some good plays too. Just payed a nasty hit on the QB. I think he'll be just fine
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I agree....I think we have something here with Carrington
Aye! Carrington looks really good and Troupe is looking pretty good too.
Unfortunately Maybin still sucks and so far so does the 2nd team offense
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The defense is what really stands out to me so far. So far we have gotten a bunch of sacks and a rediculous amount of pressure. Merriman and Dareus look great so far. Well see if it holds true. Even the 2nd string DL is getting a ton of penetration. Another sack mow by carrington. Wow
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Defense looks really good. Dareus is a monster and will be an immediate impact and Merriman will basically rejuvinate his career. Instead of being "the chargers lights out" he will be "buffalos charging buffalo" wow he looks damn good.
Oh wait, florance just got steamrolled on that run
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Fwiw, I don't think Fitz came out and said anything to do with this trade personally ut with the play last year and so far this year in camp he has shown that he is not on the same page as Lee. I know Lee is a stand-up guy but why wasn't he at Camp Fitz in Arizona? All the other WRs were there. Some, if not all the RBs were there. I don't bla e Fitz for not getting him the ball. Lee made no attempt to get on the same page as his QB. You hear it all over the league, Manning and Harrison, Manning and Wayne, Brees and his WRs, Ryan and White. The true tag teams at QB and WR work together and get on the same page.
Fitz had a good rep with Stevie from day 1 and it showed last year that the young guys could produce as well.
Someone posted earlier... Does trading Evans make the team better this year? No! But it doesn't make us much worse based on his 40 or so receptions and only 4TDs last year. Does it open up the potential for our young guys on the squad to come in and prove something? Absofreakinglutely! Would Lee have been here after his contract was over? Absolutely not! Does it give us another bullit in the gun next years draft to either package and trade up or get another blue chipper at one of the lines or LBs as a backup? Yes!
Good luck to Lee in Baltimore. I guess we will all find out by the end of the year how good he really was/is, all while seeing if Stevie really is a true #1.
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OH MY GOD, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
People just need to relax about all the changes that are happening on this football team. We finally have a football guy back as the GM and "most" of us here realize Gailey is a pretty good coach (at least offensively). Let's not forget we got the Stache just in case the defense tanks and to be honest, maybe we got him in case Gailey tanks too. I know I'd feel more comfortable with Wanny as our interim than Perry Fewel was but I don't expect Gailey to blow it either.
Just think of the moves we've made over the past year and a half or so. They all make sense to getting this team back to winning.
-Fired Jauron and his no balls way of coaching this team (worst coach ever as a Bill, yes he was worse than Mularkey)
-Hired Nix (a good football guy, regardless if he was the cheap move or not, he's good)
-Hired Gailey, also a good football guy. Knows the offense in and out. Ya, you all wanted Cowher and Shanny. Cowher didn't go anywhere and the Panther and Cowboys jobs were up so maybe, just maybe he wanted to stay retired.and what the hell has Shanny done in Washington? Absolutely nothing with probably more talent and a ton more money.
-Got rid of that scumbag Lynch, and for a 4th rounder and more. Don't bring up that stupid run at the end of the year for the Hawks. It was one play. The guy was a bum. The guy was a criminal. I work in the Corrections system and know one when I see one and this guy is gonna have an orange jumpsuit one day.
-Got rid of Modrak and the other fools we didn't want making decisions on draft day. Again having Nix with more of a scouting role even as a GM and bringing in guys he trusts is going to end the Aaron Maybin and Donte Whitner in the 1st round picks.
And now on to this offseason and why people are jumping from the Grand Island bridge for no reason. First if all, it's a fact that in year 2 under a new regime we are still in rebuilding. It's something this teams old coaches and GMs never wanted to admit and were even more hesitant on trying to do it. Instead we just let Jauron and everyone before him just try and plug the holes with gum. We need/needed to rio this thing down from the foundation and rebuild it from the bottom up.
-Poz was way overpaid by the Jags and I'm incredibly happy we didn't pay a slow, undersized, out of position, always chasing the runner 15 yards behind the LOS and behind the play as much as the Jags were dumb enough to pay.
-Whitner, just read everything I wrote about Poz but substitute SF for Jags.
-Evans, I know, I know, I loved him too. Had a Evans jersey. Had an autographed football. Little kids had posters of him in thief room. He was such a classy Bill. Not at all like the Whinning Donte, or the gun toting Lynch. Why did we have to lose him? WHY?!?!?!? BECAUSE HE WAS AVERAGE AT BEST!!! Come on people, his best year still wasn't as good as Stevies after just his first year as a starter. He apparently never got on the same page with Fitz. He probably was a little "difficult to deal with". Why is it that Stevie can come in one year and Fitz and Stevie both look like starting players for a football team? Evans did it one year with Losman and after that he has been very poor. I know, I know, with another QB, with another WR opposite him, with a better OLine. Well, guess what, he's had his chances. We had a pretty decent line last year and when Peters was still here, Lee didn't get it done. We had other WRs on the team like a first ballot HOFer in TO and Lee couldn't get it done. Last year Stevie put up more TDs than any other Bill at the position while bettering or coming extremely close to Lee's career highs but still Lee couldn't get it done. We left him as the only person on the entire offense to get the ball with JP at QB and he only had 1 truly good year. And with the horrible QB that threw for 24 TDs and over 3,000 yards, while hitting Stevie for over 1k yards and 10TDs, Roscoe Parrish with career highs only halfway through the season, Rookies Nelson, Jones, Rosevelt all produced more than expected and Nelson having more than Lees 4TDs he couldn't get it done.
The only thing I actually agree with is the fact that Lee pulled double coverage so that Stevie could have a great year. But let me ask you this. How long do you think Lee's got that down? Most likely the other teams in the NFL have recognized Stevie is our number 1 now. Most likely Lee's 30+ year old body loses some speed. Most likely Lee can't do the things that we wanted him to do. He's a speed WR and at his age he's not getting faster, he's getting slower. It's the same reason why were all saying Freddy Jackson has at best 1-2 more years in him. Because he's over 30 and in football talk, that's ancient.
Evans has been a one trick pony for his entire career and that's getting away from him. It's time we got some of these young kids that Nix and Gailey drafted who are all taller, bigger, more physical players than Evans. These guys actually look like football players on the field. Nelson, Rosevelt and Jones all showed promis last season. Other teams like the Pats do this kind of thing all the time. Hell, the Ravens only needed Evans because they let another old, slow dying WR go in Mason.
We need to see what these young kids have. One of them was going to be cut. And they all have abilities. One had to go. Personally I think Roscoe will be gone by the trade deadline too and I'm ok with that move also.
Everyone here wants to complain that we always do the wrong thing by keeping guys like Maybin, Kelsey, Dockery, Walker, Whitner and want to be relevant again. Nix is putting together HIS team. He's actually building for the future and getting something for aging or bad players that do t want to be here, or won't be here after thier contracts are up.
How's this for a thought. The majority of this site believes the Bills are 1-2 years away from actually being able to contend. What good does keeping Evans on this team do for 2 years when he won't be here after that? Now you let him walk in FA for free, AND you don't allow his replacements a chance to see what they really have.
I know, I'm turning this into a "Pro-Trade Evans" thread. The fact is that we lost with him just fine, we can at least lose without him and get that extra pick. I agree that we got underpaid for him for his worth as a decoy. But other than the points about the young guys needed playing time, look at Haynesworth, look at Ocho-Cinco. Both those guys are miles better than Evans and they fetched a 4th or less from the Pats.
I'm just happy to see Buddy and Chan doing something this team has needed for a long time. Get rid of the players that have been on this team for years of mediocrity. The players that we loved so much are the same guys that have been leaders of this team for the last 4-8 years. Getting rid of guys that cant/dont know how to win is a good thing. We need new leaders around here. Young guys like Dareus, Johnson, Aaron Williams, CJ, Nelson. All guys with something to prove.
That's all I got. But let's just get a grip on things as fans and let the Football guys do what they do. We can all agree that things are better now than they ever were with Jauron, Mularkey, Donahoe and Russ. After all, we haven't even seen a single game yet this year. Have fun burning me.
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I expect a big first quarter from Stevie and Easley as the Chix train wants to silence all the whinning crybabies about the beloved average career wide reciever.
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I actually really like TO regardless of his injury. I think hebalways had the determination to be a great player. I'm sure he is rehabing his injury no differently. I would love him on the team again except I'm gonna pass for the fact that we got rid of Lee because he is old and past his prime and we have tons of young slguys on this team that need playing time at the position.
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there's still some failed reasoning here. Lee Evans had a solid year as a lone No. 1 in 2006. ... and if you're going to go back to 2009 and use that as an argument, i'm sorry. the Bills offense that season was an absolute and utter mess. the fact that it scored more than 3 touchdowns was a miracle given that Jauron decided to go no-huddle, fired his offensive coordinator and then cut his starting left tackle. ...
good receivers need comlimentary receivers around them and quarterbacks to get them the ball. Steve Smith was an elite receiver in Carolina but then suddenly his production dropped off.
Deion Branch was good in New England, a bust in Seattle and now suddenly good in New England again. ... hmmmm.
what's Braylon Edwards done recently?
weren't Peerless Price and Eric Moulds a better tandem together than they were apart?
some could say Moulds had a great 2004 season because of Evans.
Larry Fitzgerald is a good receiver, and yet why did he fail to make an impact last year? sure, he had another, 1,000 yard while matching a career low with 6 TDs.
Andre Reed didn't do it all himeslf here in Buffalo, did he?
here's something odd: if Lee Evans wasn't a bona fide No. 1 and couldn't do it all himself, how did he do it all himself in 2008 opposite Josh Reed, or in 2006, opposite Peerless.
look at the numbers: Evans' 1,292 yards receiving in 2006 were more than one third of the yards passing the Bills produced.
odd, no?
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Like I said. I give credit for Lee doing what he has. I'm not saying we should get rid of him just to get rid of him. It's not to clear up cap space. If anything it's about picking up another position of greater need. Either it will be for another player or for a draft pick for next season. I think I agreed enough that Lee is good and defenately pulls coverage to himself but he is not a true #1. Your right, Lee had 2 good seasons. Not great. Not even very good. You can't have a very good season as a WR and still have single digit TDs. He's never broke into the double digit mark. I could take less yards and receptions if you just produced in the redzone, But he doesn't. He's a deep threat because of his speed, he's 30 years old and on the downside of his speed demon career. He's never been a possession reciever. Just because he's had decent years twice in his career doesnt mean anything g to me since JP also had a good year one of those years and we all know he sucked. Just as other players like Derek Anderson had a good year yet we all knew that was a fluke. Just as many here and wleverywhere else believes Fitz isn't really good or a starting QB even though he had the best year at QB since Bledsoe and he only played 13 games.
As the inevitable happens and Lee gets slower and slower it will soon take a 2nd or a 3rd CB to cover him instead of a first and then we will be stuck with a Small, slow, overpaid and underutilized WR on this team when we could have gotten, Cooley, or an OT, or an ILB, or a 3-6th round draft pick for a guy that wouldn't have been resigned anyway. It's about being on your game and being proactive instead of waiting until he's a FA and wondering what we could have gotten for him.
I don't see what everyone even cares about. Almost everyone on this board expect this team to win only 5 games this year. The others think we are going to be bad enough to draft Andrew Luck next year. So if we lose a WR that will not be here in 2 years anyway who really cares????
This place makes me crazy. We all think Ralph is cheap, we suck, we won't make the playoffs, we won't win more than 5 games, we didn't get any better, and were at least 2 years away from making an actual run at it but let's not take extra draft picks to help this rebuilding process because we want to keep a WR that will be 32 when that all happens and has never done anything spectacular enough to prove without a doubt that he is a true #1 anyway.
Hairston at RT?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I was wondering myself. I never even thought to look for Hairston the other night. I truly believe he will be at least a quality backup at RT but that's all speculation as I haven't seen play yet in camp or games.