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I haven't read this thread in it's entirety but FWIW, espn just announced that Lloyd is on the block officially and Denver is said to be requesting between a 3-5th for him.
If we can take our extra 4th for him een if it's for the year and he becomes a FA at the end of it, it's a no brained. Best case scenario, we use him like a stud and he takes our offense to even greater heights. Worst case je becomes a @sshole and a cancer and we cut his @ss while only giving away an extra 4th.
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For anyone that missed this. It's about to be back on espn in a few minutes.
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I agree. Maybe not with becoming a true #1 yet. He's got a lot to prove before he raises those eyebrows but he showed last year he could get ot done. Has shown this year minus the drops. He can go deep and showed against the Eagles he could get those posession catches and make plays. I think he's going to be really good. Let's hope this injury doesn't set him back too far.
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When is it on again?
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Agree with this entire post. I personally think the leadership in this locker room has gone leaps and bounds over just a year ago. Last year we were relying on guys like Poz, Evans, Edwards, Whitner. Evans is the only one that even played on a regular basis and could be trusted to show up every Sunday. Poz was on the field 50% at best and when he was he was not anywhere near what Barnett is. Whitner was more of a leader in his own mind on Twitter than anything else. Wilson I think is the heart and soul of this defense and it shows. I rewarched the game from Sunday and noticed Wilson very vocal on the sidelines and picking up clipboards to go over plays they were burned on. Just like against NE where he stated that he got burned on the one okay over the middle and wasn't going to fall for it again and ended up getting a pick the next time.
Moats, Batten, Carrington, Wilson, Dareus, Williams, Searcy, Byrd, Shephard are all the future of this defense and I think it looks like it could be special for years to come.
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RIP Al. You will be remembered for being one of the pioneers of this sport and how we know it today.
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When a game is officiated this poorly, it is no coincidence. There are millions of dollars at stake every week in both legal and illegal betting. I am not a conspiracy theorist by any means, but this game sure looked shady. And yes, the Bills played poorly, but the fact is that they probably still would have won if the game had been officiated correctly.
Agree 100%
they shouldn't have been in the position to lose this game but in the end they were and 1 call cost them big time. Of course they could have lost anyway, but if we keep that ball and even run 3 more plays off the clock there isn't enough time for the comeback. It was also a huge momentum shifter.
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I thought this post was going into another direction when I clicked on it. I was in Vegas during the game, unable to get a ride to Johnny Macs and not willing to pay $40 or so each way in cab fares, I gladly put on my Jackson jersey and headed to the sports book in the MGM. There were hundreds of people there. It was like a homeless shelter or soup kitchen, people everywhere, standing, sitting, laying on the floor, sitting and eating fast food in one hand as they clinched thier 3, 4, and 5 team parlay tickets in thier other hand. During my stay I noticed thelat the Cowboys and Lions game saw the most action but the Bills game was on 3 small (55 inches or so) tvs. You could watch it from anywhere. I spoke with the teller at the window when I placed my bets and he said the games with the most action recieved volume. It was clear to me that the Bills got some decent play because they were on many tvs in the area. It was no secret that people were cheering for the Bills as they jumped out to a lead in the first half. Most people forgot all about the game and focused on closer games like the Steelers/Texans, and Bears/Panthers. Many assumed the Lions game was over as well. Then in the second half you could see the cheers shifting. Fewer and fewer as the day went on. Every soboften you saw a few people stand and pump thier fists as thier tickets were becoming more possible. I thought about the refs after the game, I thought it couldve even been fixed but isn't it funny how I never recieved so many sorry appologies as a Bills fan just for wearing my jersey after a loss. People connected with me because they lost too. A friends family member I saw during the afternoon games first words to me was "man, your Bills really screwed up my 5 team Parlay". I heard that multiple times throughout my Sunday. It was like a knife into the back of Bills fans everywhere. It was almost as clear as glass how we got the crumby calls we got. Now I believe that if we played better that we wouldve won that game, at the same time we were winning and driving the field when that "catch" play happened. Worst case, we get 3 plays off and have to punt the ball, but we still kill some more clock and give Ginger less time to play with during thier cheap comeback. If anything, the refs angle was to make some money. I don't put any thought into the Pats on this at all. I hope youball enjoyed my story. Every bit of it is complete truth. It was almost like watching casinos dumping bags of money into thier vaults when the Bills lost. Altogether Vegas raked it in this week. Bills loss, Lions comeback, Panthers covering with a few seconds left on the clock. If there's a conspiracy it's in Vegas, or the refs were in on a HUGE payday.
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I voted division title but that's a big IF. If we can manage to go into Foxboro at the end of the year and lay into the Pats like we just did last seek and if we can manage to look good and take at least 1 game from the Jets while hoping the Jets help us out past the Pats also. Like I said, BIG IFs.
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I'd like to reply to this by starting of by saying that I LOVE Williams and believe he has been severely underrated for a long time on the Bills. I am also aware that I will get burnt to a crispy ash for even thinking this, but we should have traded Williams for a kings ransom this year. Some team would have payed a 1st and more for his services and it would have helped is wonders with an extra 1st and most likely 3rd next year. As I said, I LOVE Williams but he is getting older, and he is playing out of position in a 3/4. Essentially were underutilizing his talents and expecting him to play like Superman every week and it's not going to happen. My guess is that we've seen the best of Kyle and it's a shame considering we just gave him a contract to retire a Bill.
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It's Hairston time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I personally think Chan just had this conversation with Buddy.
"well, we thought Hairston would be our starting LT going forward so now we just have to speed up the learning curve"
I'm guessing we keep Hairston as our starting LT next year and Bell is not renewed.
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you joined the board in 2009 and gave yourself the name BLEDSOE1QB? wtf?
ROTFLMFAOWTFBBQSAUCE!!!!!!!
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I agree with both of you at this point. If we stop AJ Green alone we win that game. Benson played well but it was the long plays to Green that killed us in the end. We should have won that game but I'm not jumping off bridges just yet. Fitz had his worst game in a while. We had some tough calls. Chan should have stayed with FJ a little more in the 2nd half as well. We had a lead and gave up on the run IMO. Sure we ran it but it seemed like we were only running to set up the pass. If some of those bad passes by Fitz or bad drops by Jones go the other way we aren't having this conversation now, we would be enjoying being 4-0. Overall we got screwed by the refs, Fitz looked rough, Jones looked worse, the defense played about where they should have but the offense couldn't bail them out this week. Next week and the week after against the Eagles and Giants will tell is where this team really is and how we bounce back.
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I'd like to say that Fitz and Stevie need to get done asap. They are both playing great football right now. If things go this well for them throughout the year they will both be first selections for the ProBowl. Jackson is also in that list of Bills that could be playing in Hawaii but he is already under contract. Fitz and Stevie need to get done or they COULD hit FA. If one of them doesn't get done I'd expect a franchise tag to be placed on the other. Jackson has time to get another deal done and it's warranted by the way he's played so far this year. He's the ine guy I'd be comfortable with waiting until later in the year to see how he wears down as the season goes on. If he's still dominant after week 12 then give him a deal and make up for him having to wait.
In the end, I'd pay Fitz top 10-15 money for starting QB. I think were prolly looking at around 8-10million a year for 4-6 years.
Stevie will get about 6million a year for 5 years.
Jackson will get about 4million a year for 3.
Next offseason we make sure we get Levitre, Wood, Bell, locked up long term and that just abou does it for big name FA's in the offseason unless there's a stud DB or OLB pass rusher to be had.
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Need your help....live in Rochester, but will be in Buffalo with better half until around noon. Don't want to risk missing any part of game, so plan is to watch at Buf bar. Any great recommendations? Thanks!
My suggestion to watch the game would be Duffs in OP but if you won't be around there and need to ne near Main St i'd say Sorrentinos. Small bar feel. Right near where you will be. Will be packed with Bills fans. I heard some people say Creekside but they don't have much in terms of bar anymore. It's more dining than anything.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks guys. Is anyone going to be there on Sunday?
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Hi everyone. It shames me to say this because I lived here for 2 years but I don't know what place is better in Vegas to watch the Bills games. Does anyone here live in Vegas and go on Sundays? I'm in town for this weeks game and I'm looking for a place to watch the game.
Which is better?
Johnny Macs or Santoras? Who's gonna be there?
Thanks
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I got bashed for saving Evans isn't really double teamed on every play and won't be missed too much. I got bashed for saying our O-Line was middle of the pack in 2010, I will take this time to say "I told you so"
However I still expected 6 or 7 wins in 2011. So we're tracking to be way off on that won.
Now it seems like The Senator gets to say he told us so.
19-0 baby!
I am right on with ya brother. I've been in the "trade Evans" camp for years now. Get what you can get for a WR that is declining and not getting it done. While I believed he was good I NEVER saw #1 WR game in him. We waited and I'm glad we did it at the right time. He will give us more ammo to retool in this offseason.
I also said that about our OL. I was a little worried during camp and the changes Chan was making for the short time he did but last year showed they were far from being the worst in the league which is what many expected.
I will say I thought this team was guaranteed 8-8 before the season started based on the 4-12 last year with 4 OT and close game losses. I thought if things went really well they culd be 9-7 but prolly not 10-6. I'll admit I was wrong about the 8-8. I feel they could be 10-6 and now that they got the Pats money off thief back they COULD win the division and guarantee a playoffs spot and not have to play for the wildcard.
19-0 baby. GO BILLS!!!
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Maybe the Sheppard is catching on pretty quickly. That would give the team a little insurance that could give Moats time to practice two positions.
I think this is about right. The team is probably more comfortable now that Shephard has shown he is a pretty decent player and officially off his injury.
I'd also say they might be a little puzzled with thv fact that Merriman hasn't had a single sack yet. I'm in the boat that I believe they played mostly to stop the run and then drop Merriman back a little more to not give up screens against NE. They seem to have done what they wanted on defense so far. There is still hope that Merriman isn't completely shot but moving Mats back to OLB after what he did last year after a few games is defenately a good move IMO.
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Ive seen this before. If you look at alot of the team logos they are very cartoony like ours.
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I agree that we could be 4-0 although it's the way we think (well, the way I think) every year. You exactly right the way you say it though. It will all come down to the first game. If we take out the Chiefs away from home we SHOULD beat the Raiders at hone and with a strong showing in our first two games and high on our start, this years game against the Pats should be our best shot in a long time. Of course things never go right (like a McKelvin fumble) for us in those games we still could have some serious momentum going into this game. I like our chances with our beefed up run D and pass rushers with Merriman (IF Healthy) and Carrington/Kelsey/Moats/Batten/Coleman. It's our best shot in years IMO and I like it. Of course if we beat them we should have no troubles with a Dalton led Bengles team. Philly is another story but for all we know Vick is injured by then or he can't do anything against our fast OLBs and pocket crumbling front 4.
Go BILLS!!!
With the exception of me claiming we'd have a dominant pass rush with Merriman and others ibcouldnt have been more right about things working out so far. Am I the next Nostradomas?
Playoffs?!?!?!?!?!?
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The offensive line deserves more credit then any other area of the team because they were the area of biggest concern then are holding up their end.....
Fitz and the offensive scheme play a big part in all of this but they still have to open the running lanes and Fitz still throws deep on occasion.
I was great that Rhinehart and Urbik are interchangable and the same level of player because we had to test that depth......I think we are going to see that should we have something happen at RT......we have a rookie OT that also can step in and perform. I am glad we have not had to test it though.
like I said during the game.....I actually think we are set on offense....we have the QB (and backup), the offensive line, the running backs, the tight end, and the receivers......what we should do is go strong again in drafting players on the defensive side......we still need secondary and linebackers
I was having tuis conversation today with another on this board. If the team continues to look impressive (by no means am I saying well be undefeated) and win games doing so we have a real shot at just drafting rhe best player available in the upcoming draft. Most of the team looks really good. Most of the offense looks set for a long time to come as most of our OLmen, WRs, TEs are all very young. Defense just recieved a shot of adrenaline this year with Dareus, Barnett, Williams, Searcy, Rogers, And recently Batten, Moats. I do think they could go LB or DB early and often and I'm perfectly alright with that. I don't believe McGee will be back after this season and they will continue to draft more LBs like Shephard to replace guys like Kelsey, Morrison, Davis, and dare I say Merriman.
Either way, it's looking like were in a good position come draft day. Even if some of these guys start to drop off it's clear they CAN get it done when things are going well.
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I'm guessing someone on the staff of X files had ties to Buffalo. That's usually what happens.
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I get a lot of thank yous from people for my military service, but I want to thank YOU for making it possible for the Bills to remain in Buffalo. It is because of fans like you who are able to go to the home games that stir the drink, so to speak!!!!!!!!!
No BmoreBills, thank you for service to this country. Allowing US to be able to enjoy the things WE all love.
For those of you that miss HOME here is a few things to remind you how great this City is. Don't worry, it gets me all ready eyed too.
I'm from Buffalo!. We eat chicken wings, not buffalo wings. Jack Kemp is
a quarterback, not a politician. We drink Labatt Blue and love it. Mighty
Taco always has preference over Taco Bell. Pop, not soda and Pepsi, not Coke. They are sneakers not tennis shoes. It's a sucker, not a lollipop. Bison Chip Dip, La Nova Pizzeria, Aunt Rosie's Loganberry, Chiavettas Chicken,
Peter K's Potato Pancakes and Ted's Hot Dogs are all too familiar... not
to forget Taffy's Shakes and Charlie the Butcher.
A fake ID is unnecessary, there is always Canada. But we have them
anyway. Our bars don't close until 4 AM, and we DO sell beer in a grocery store
(Tops or Wegmans), which always makes for early starts and late nights.
Jim's Steak Out at 4 in the morning is calling it an early night.
We never cuss, but we swear entirely too much. We know that a 65 mph
speed limit really means 80. We will cut you off, swear, and give you the
finger if you are not keeping up AND do it all in the snow, while expecting
nothing less in return. Driving in the snow not only comes naturally, it is fun.
We know what ArtVoice and Nightlife are and we either love them or try
to burn every copy we see. We start the weekends off right at Thursdays in
the Square enjoying beer, free music, and an interesting crowd.
We lived through Wide Right, The Forward Lateral, and No Goal. Dubbed by
Dan Marino as "the meanest fans because no-one actually wants to live here." We all know he wouldn't stand one winter up here. We love the Bills (no
matter what) and accept that it takes 2 - 4 hours to get home from a game.
Nothing closes in 3 feet of snow or -20 windchills. In fact, that's how
we prefer to tailgate. The 2001 Christmas Storm that dumped nearly 7ft of
lake effect snow, we still think it's a mere 2nd to The Blizzard of '77.
We can correctly pronounce, spell, and identify Chippewa, Scajaquada,
Lackawanna, Cheektowaga, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Olean, Tonawanda and
Gowanda without hesitation. When giving direction it's not " take I-90
to Route 33 east" it's "take the 90 to the 33 east"..."the" is not
an option.
We are less than 30 minutes from another country, one of the seven
wonders of the world, and even a few beaches. It's the second largest city in
New York.
I AM FROM BUFFALO, a drinking town with a sports problem, and damn
proud!
I'm the one in the Kelly jersey at the 1:00 mark
Get ready for one fast, aggressive and YOUNG defenses on Sunday...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Man I hope so. Sounds like Merriman, Kelsey, and even Williams out. Let's hope this front 7 can get it done. I hope McGee gets in a bit too and looks solid, our defensive backfield needs him and Williams back asap