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Of people really think pot is the issue. It's not. That's my point about bpeople being naive. They don't realize how big the cocaine, crack, heroine, and meth problems are in this country. Ridiculously large.

and you know he will be extended???? Please a link would be nice.

I hope he does. But his history says your wrong. He's good 25% of the time. And that's when he's not splitting carries between 3 other backs that have all shown really good reasons why they should be playing.

Hey. Here's this story. These guys are probably just selling drugs tho. They probably deserve some kind of treatment facility instead of prison. I think they have a good shot at reforming into decent citizens when it's all done. I mean hey, they owned their own ised car dealership. They must be decent with dealing with people. http://wivb.com/2014/07/23/officials-take-down-suspected-drug-trafficking-gang/

we will have a CJ and Fred type in Brown and Dixon. As much as I would love to have another 2nd or 3rd round draft pick (at the most, all your going to get for CJ) I'd rather just keep him for the season and let him walk at the end. Hopefully he helps is somehow get I to and through the playoffs this year.

not at the cost of $2m a year to his pocket. bryce Brown is definately the future. Him and Dixon with Freddy being the 3rd back when needed going forward. In 2 years, Freddy retires and we pick up someone else to replace him.

yiu can make that deal for yourself. But you can't make it for the other 1,000 people on here getting ready to dive off a bridge.

lol

If the Bills resign CJ to any deal at all over $3m a year I'll be seriously pissed. He's not even worth that much.

added to that... In many countries, encarceration isn't practiced. If you steal, they just chop off your hands. And of course that's just stealing. I'm inly guessing you have to chop a few people's hands off until most decide not to steal anymore. Just sayin.

this. I imagine Larry Fitzgerald level as long as the kid stays healthy.

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im telling you, and I've been to camp twice already, that EJ has been airing it out on medium and deep throws quite a bit more than not only I expected but from what I saw last year. If you look at my notes in my training camp day threads, when I said overthrown... I'd say about half of those were 20+ yards downfield at least. Many were deep to the sidelines. For all we know, he may be trying to get his timing down with his WRs on the outsideore than anything. Just my opinion I'm not riding the fan bus. But I'm not out with my pitchforks either. He's looked good and bad at times from what Ives seen. Honestly, of he stays exactly the way he was last year hit stays healthy the entire season... It's probably enough to make the playoffs. Just a little better than last year and we do significantly better in record. Again, just my opinion.

yeah. I read it. It's the opinions of someone else. Personally I don't really care. And you've never talked to him personally but you are talking to me personally now and I have experience. I'm telling you that the increase in population in the 80s increased In prison because of the gangs. Not the drugs. The drugs are what got them caught. It was a way to get them off the streets. Just because they weren't caught killing someone doesn't mean they haven't or won't again. The programs the article talks about that many states have created for treatment. I worked at one for 6 months. Willard DTC (drug treatment center) and Shock Camp. I have already explained that the success rate of completing the program was well. The rate of them returning, usually within months, is extremely high... 70%. Hell, we had one female there that had been there 7 times. The other iates used to call her "The Dep" as in Deputy Superintendant because she spent more time there than mich of the administration. She knew the game. Knew what she could get away with on the outside and knew that if she got in trouble again she would be given another opportunity to go right back for 97 days, graduate the program, and be out in the street in no time. We used to have group sessions where the parolees would talk about the things they've done and I'm telling you it isn't pretty. It isn't just drugs. Your argument is that we have more encarcerated people than anyone else in the world. Yes... We do. It's justified. It needs to be that way. Honestly, we need more in prison and off the streets.

having drugs, doing drugs, selling drugs, making/growing drugs is a crime. And yes, many of them are serious criminals, not just drug addicts and pot sellers. Drugs are the main source of income in illegal activity in the US. The biggest gangs in the country claim their territory and defend it with iron fists against one another. I get what your saying. I'm not talking about the 19 year old kid buying dime bags here. I think your just being a little naive as to how big the drug problem is in the US and what comes with it.

lol. If we keep bugging her she might sell to JBJ just to piss us off.

http://www.corcraft.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategoriesDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10051 Yup. And the problem is, many people will look at or and say that NYS is along hand over fist on inmate labor. That's fine. But this job in the jail pays incredibly more than any other job. Between metal shop and the mess hall, these guys work a regular 8 hour a day job Monday through Friday. Making (I can't remember exactly, but) between $1-2 an hour (I think). Which is insane for a person that shouldn't make anything because they are in prison for life for multiple murders. With that money they can buy commissary, or send home, do whatever they want with it really. At the same time, people say the state is making tons off them. That's fine but they don't realize how much money is spent on other things inside the prison system and they just do this just to make up for the money lost. When I was at my facility downstate, the prison was a much smaller prison. Only about 500 inmates. We spent over $2 million a month on medications for just those 500 inmates. Just to give you an idea, That facility is the smallest population in NYS and there are over 60 prosons in the state. Some housing more than 2,000 inmates. Who's good at math??? How much tax dollars is that, spent in these criminals every month alone???

Thanks Tom. I'd like to add to that, that just because criminals are only getting busted for drugs doesn't mean they aren't guilty of other crimes. It just means that's all the authorities could link them too. Look at Aaron Hernadez. Who thought the guy was involved with 3 murders (allegedly)??? Nobody just over a year ago. Then we find out he's linked to 3 and probably pulled the trigger himself. The inmates inside the prosons are no different. Just because they were caught for selling some heroin doesn't mean they don't have 3 or 4 bodies on their count. Trust me, I listen to them talk. There's a few I know of for fact that will be out soon and walking around on the west side of Buffalo by year end. Enjoy that thought. new York state is responsible for koscense plates, cleaning supplies, office chairs, school chairs, school desks, lockers and the list goes on. Anytime you see the name Corcraft... Think of prisoners making money off of it.

yes and no. It's all hand in hand. Looking at it from a large scale. If not for the drugs in this country, the crime would definately be lower. Murders would be down. The amount of people locked up would decrease. That doesn't mean that it wouldn't continue somehow. But there's no secret that prior to 9-11 the government and state wide resources were pooled at the drug game and gangs across America. Then 9-11 hit and all the resources then went to the war on terror. Kind of like the little kid in the 3rd Die Hard movie... "It's like Christmas out here, everyone's into something" the drugs and gangs popped back up and it's now a more serious problem than ever. My wife works for customs and won't allow me to buy items from the stands in the middle of the malls, from places like DHGate, because at the end of the trail, they find terrorism some way or another. That comes from Customs and Border Protection. They aren't wrong about these things. The drug and gang situation in this country is the same way. Eventually it all comes back to the gangs and drugs are their biggest source of income.

what war??? You mean the one where Cuomo closed down 9 correctional facilities over the past 3 years to eliminate state spending. Meanwhile the ones that are open are subject to double bunked cells for inmates, and overcrowding which has led to increased assaults on staff and inmates. http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/02/new_york_state_announces_it_will_close_4_prisons_including_1_in_wayne_county.html Less inmates in the state??? Sure, let's just let the drug offenders walk out early to save money, let's just let the Rapist of a child out into public. http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/local/west-seneca/2014/02/12/state-places-sex-offenders-in-group-home/5437007/ Have fun with those stories everyone. Try and tell me I'm being a little too crazy about this subject after reading and watching this.

Thanks. Sorry. It's about an hour drive for me each day. I can't justify making it there every day. Although when I'm at work I'm about 20 minutes closer so it's just a matter of getting there after work a little more. It's still a long day being away from my home from 6am until 10pm though if I do tht all the time. Again, Thanks. I do enjoy going and seeing for myself instead of having to read what some columnist wrote an if I believe their opinions or not. At the end of the day I'm sure that's a decision everyone has to look at with even me posting. My takes might not be the same as everyone else's. That's why I try and just eke it to the facts instead of opinion based when I go. I really appreciate the thanks from everyone. It really makes all the work worth while.

New York State is State. There are no or profit correctional facilities in New York to my knowledge. At least on a prison level. Maybe jail level.

I know you mean no disrespect Gug. There's no answer to this problem. Society practically encourages it. Unemployment, free health care. It's easier and more profitable to do nothing if your a scumbag and be well off more than others that work. I wanna say it heard somewhere that an unemployed person taking advantage of all the government programs essentially makes over $55k a year. Why work when you can just do that? And on top of it, it's easy to sell drugs, so double up while your at it. That's the mindset of most. I'm sure I'll start hearing the flaming now. Of people don't like being broke or think the minimum wage should be increased, find a job or a better job. The taxpayers were never intended to support the unemployed. It makes our society look more and more like Communism every day.

forcing them to do the program doesn't work either. There's not a problem with the program. The ones that want to succeed at it, succeed. The problem is with the inmates. Most of them don't want it. Most of them want to be back on the street with their boys. Selling drugs. Shooting people.

I'm locking this thread for admin purposes to clean things up. Thanks for the appreciation. It makes it all worth it.