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Hilariously, he's never, EVER played through any injuries on the field. ill go along with this. He's a joke of a long jumper. Won't medal.

the argument isn't about whether or not the Sheriffs want anything to do with it. They're not he the ones patrolling the lots anyway. The argument is that you have no say over them coming into your lot on game day. Which you don't. You openly invite them in if you are providing a public place for people to park and drink/party/tailgate. You property is not private if your charging money to park there. It automatically makes it public. Either way, it automatically gives the police a right to walk your property or search. Whichever they feel like doing. I'd love to be there to hear you tell them to F-off. Id imagine it won't go well for you.

Independence Day was so terrible. It had its cool special effects but that was it. Central Intelligence was absolutely hilarious tho. One so damn funny. The Rock is so freaking funny.

thays because they were punk kids on power trips. And the other kids they were inprisoning weren't actual inmates.

this is the biggest issue actually. Officials and their fight to take away our rights. Specifically the right to bear arms. They make everyone believe the government will save them when in fact they are disarming the citizens of this country. I know some touched in this before and stated the chicken littles would immediately bring this up but it is a serious concern in this country. To me it boils down to the fact that I don't believe my government has the ability to keep me safe in certain situations. Unfortunately in places like Bills games where forearms are not permitted, it makes it tough to bite that bill it of not being able to carry.

im not stating the property becomes public like its a fact. It just makes sense. Besides the point that cops don't need anyone's permission to enter a private lot on game days of they see someone breaking the law. It would be no different than you waving a gun on your front porch. Or smoking a joint. Or blowing coke. If a cop can see it from the street it isn't private. And if a cop has probable cause to search they can do as they please. Think of the party's when you were a kid and the cops broke them up. Did you or anyone else in the home call the cops? Probably not, but I bet the neighbors did with noise complaints. It's a different story when a cop comes to your front door and has no business being there than if they can see something from the street. But that's not what this thread is about anyway. This thread is about armed police in private lots for your safety along with everyone else attending. And until they arrest a single person for accessible partying, it's not even an argument. as simpleman pointed out this was the case and he may or may not have made the situation worse. Personally, I still feel better with him being there. He died trying to defend himself and save the lives of others. Suicide bombing is a type of terrorism. Wasn't saying it wasn't. But it's also much harder to identify and once the bomb goes off, the terrorist is dead and so are many innocent people. So no need for armed security at that point anyway. It's the gunmen that can be deterred.

yes. Absolutely. Unless we're talking about suicide bombing here there would absolutely be a deterrent or a preventative precaution to eliminate a shooter before anyone could be shot. I bet the families of the deceased in Orlando wished there was an armed presence at that nightclub.

you don't need counter terrorism units to show a police presence.

i have no problem with this post at all and no problem with your 4th amendment rights. My only issue is your take on "private lots" during games and they shouldn't be subject to police in the name of terrorism. Regardless of this is a BS reason to implement police in the lots or not. The fact still remains that these lots are no longer considered private on game day. They are being used for mass congregation and at the end of the day, nobody is putting a gun to the lot owners heads telling them they must open their lots for private parking/tailgating. It is their right to utilize their lot to make money for themselves just as it is the county/state/governments right to police the area when they find it is needed. A good example would be... As an underage kid, I took part in many many house parties. Some with alcohol, drugs, and more alcohol. Many times the cops were called. They didn't need warrants to come into the house. They barged in on their own. It's almost no different. And that's if we're just talking about partying and alcohol. We can talk all we want about the use of the word "terrorism" and the rights that are taken away from us in that name. At the end of the day, we don't know yet and won't know if any of this effects anyone's tailgating experience u til it actually happens. And is out top dollar in it that the people it effects are probably breaking the law or doing something extremely stupid and they probably deserve it.

we have already. You didn't get the invite? Well, better luck next year.

Happy wife... Happy life. Just remember that and remover to make her happy no matter what. She can make your life miserable if she wants to.

and you probably never get hassled or arrested either I bet. You also probably don't break the law either.

i think your over reacting a little bit here. They are taking about security in private lots. They didn't say anything about swat battering rams and military grade hardware.

Theses commercials were terrible. Who the hell was the WR?

i disagree on any levels. I feel that major sporting events are a huge soft spot for terrorist activity. And although we have t seen anything yet I don't feel it's out of the question that we could or will within our lifetimes. There was incredible security back in the day at the Bills first Super Bowl as well. Snipers, Blackhawks, Etc. I don't disagree in the name of terrorism argument all that much but I do question how badly our rights have been rolled back with the exception of patriot act stuff (and I won't get too much into it because I don't know the details). But, phone taps on known or suspected criminals or terrorists IMO is not so terrible. JMO. There's plenty to argue about over everything but until we know for sure they are going to police anybody for anything unless they are a terrorist is to be determined. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I also said earlier I'd like to find out if any and how many other stadiums have stepped up this policy as well. I would suspect that many other teams in the league either already have or will be following this policy. Hell, I'd bet that lost teams in the league don't have private lots. Many teams in large cities don't have homes and private locations nearby to tailgate like the Bills do.

Honest question. I wonder the age ranges in both sides of the arguments. I'd put any money on it that the crowd that is against police in private lots are in their low to mid 20s and the rest are 35+. I'd also like to get an idea as to which ones also smoke weed and do other illegal activities while in the lots. I'm not talking about keg stands and drunken wrestling.

the problem is... This hasn't even happened yet and all the chicken littles are already assuming they will be hassled for the smallest things.

its too bad you don't have a single say in what's going to happen about this and id like to see you stop them from coming into your lot. Have fun with it. It's not 4th amendment rights anymore when you are whoring our your land to make a buck. It's not the same if you are having a private party. I'd really love to be there when you start arguing with them about this.

i support the right for any citizen to own a gun for personal or home protection, or hell; just cause they want one. But I don't support the need for fully automatics and I sure don't support the idea of someone has issues with the law or passing background investigations. But that's another story all together.

It was probabaly those dirty cops that were hassling him for no reason.

lets shed some light on the things you said. Here's a few of the doozies you've had in this thread "cops have killed for much less than that. Usually black people" "I would love to be there when you tell the cops to f-off. I hope for your sake you aren't black" dwight in philly, on 24 Jun 2016 - 1:28 PM, said: so being caucasian , and i tell the cops to F-OFF, i should be ok then? "odds are, yes. maybe not ok, but probably not dead" "try hard to avoid cops at all costs. I don't feel they are all bad, but I'm not willing to risk it" "my view is that cops, regardless of color, have killed black citizens unlawfully and gotten away with it" "Cops seems to get away with a lot" dwight in philly, on 24 Jun 2016 - 2:13 PM, said: so it doesnt matter if it is a black cop .. you just feel ALL cops target black people? "Let's be clear, it's almost always white cops" "not as often as white cops" "I can see why some people run from cops, if i were in some others shoes, i'm not sure I would trust them" To me it sounds like you feel minorities are targeted by (usually white) cops. And minorities should be much more worried because cops have an agenda. Got it. Enjoy your F#%Kin weekend.

well, you say private party and the town sees it as public considering you have to pay for a liscense. And that doesn't negate the fact that what is viewable from the street is off the table as well. As I said before, you could be in your own home and naked in the window for people to see and you could be arrested for public indecency. It's no different if you had an argument with someone in your own home and the neighbors called the police for excessive noise complaints. The police have every right to investigate the complaint. Again, it doesn't mean that people won't be able to have fun. Drink. Enjoy time with friends. But public intoxication is an issue, screwing in parking lots is illegal, drug usage is illegal. Honestly, the biggest thing we should be asking is... Are other stadiums in the league doing the same thing in the name of security? Do other stadiums in the league even have private lots to worry about? I've been to Pittsburgh before the new stadium, San Diego, Oakland, and San Francisco and I can tell you that none of them had private lots for people to get stupid in.

oh. So sorry again. Many cops are bad and need to go. As opposed to some? A few? A couple individuals? Keep hating police. Its expected by the police and that's what helps them realize who the criminals are usually. Easy to tell someone who is up to no good.

oh. So very sorry. You said MOST cops need to go.

haha. Way to put words into my mouth. No different than you assuming all cops are bad I suppose.