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Yeah. If those seats actually exist. Depending on who you talk to. The general consensus is that the reps are telling people that the current clubs are the only option for heat and cover at the crazy 10k per PSL and $8k a ticket price. The question is, are they telling people this because it’s the truth? Or are they performing shady business practices and only saying that to sell as many of the higher priced seats that are currently available now. The survey provided these options, but because we have no actual factual info on the stadium because the team is keeping things hush hush about the options after they get through the club seats, we don’t know if these options will actually exist in the new stadium. Maybe this was a possibility before the cost overruns (many doubt that’s possible) and now they cut back on the idea. Who knows. The Bills and Legends know and they aren’t saying. And that’s the problem.

I was in New Orleans a few years ago for the Thanksgiving game. Near the top. Probably 20-30 rows from the last seat in the house. Boy were they steep. I was worried walking up the steps. Walking down them. And god forbid if I stood up with any sort of quickness I would have tumbled for 8 minutes until my lifeless body hit the turf on the Bills sideline. not to mention we were so far away you could barely make out numbers on the jerseys. Not a pleasurable experience imo. I would take any one of these seats as reasonable options. It’s the last one you listed that makes me curious. Because as some have said that have been to the experience. They are currently in the 200-300s now and the club seats that are covered and heated are going for way more than this. Triple these prices. So I’m wondering if there is some other options coming? Or if they have vastly increased the prices (triple) from the survey.

I honestly don’t know if I believe overruns are the reason for it. Like @SoCal Deek says, it’s tough to go through this process this deep into it and all the sudden start cutting corners now. I believe what was introduced to everyone involved as the plan is being carried out. but…. Their survey and the FEW renderings they did provide speak differently. As I said, they did include what appeared to be multiple levels with cover and heat. Not just the sidelines but in the end zones as well. I think the bigger issue is the lack of any information going forward. But if as some believe they are going through this process like a time share presentation, acting like used car salesmen or like a snake oil salesman, then how do we know there won’t be more heated and covered areas that are not “club seats”? Because the same people doing the experience who are trying to sell as many of the highest priced tickets as possible are the ones telling you there is no other option for heat and cover. I hope there’s other options. Like the ones they included in the survey like this option: A seat located End Zone on the Mezzanine Level Seat Coverage: Significant - Level of Seating Overhead Heating: Above Seats Annual Season Ticket Price per Seat: $900 Personal Seat License (One-Time Fee Per Seat): $1,400 what worries me is what I though then to be true. That this survey was only a gauge on how much they could get away with charging everyone before their tipping point. The way the survey was worded was like, would you rather have heat and cover for 9k a PSL, or this seat here I heated and uncovered for 2k a PSL. Based on all the surveys turned in, they figured out what was the most they could charge for each seat before losing interest. And they based these prices now for the new stadium right on the edge of what people would consider moving forward with. let’s hope there’s more options for heat and cover than just 10k or more for a PSL and 8k per year on tickets. Cuz if that’s the only option, I’m out. Maybe I’ll buy the cheapest seats in the whole place and sell all but the home opener every year, just to be able to have tickets available to me. But I have interest in being up in the 500s being a mile away with such a steep incline that if you stand up wrong you get vertigo. Yeah I have no desire for that. I’ll stay at home

You should be able to start buying them on the secondary market as early as next week I think. Once the schedule comes out, STHs have the ability to list them. As far as from the Bills org, I don’t know the exact dates as far as price that will depend on the seat your looking for.

AND…….. He’s faster than Coleman.

Yeah except the fact that your going to be a mile away from the field. I don’t buy any of that crap about being closer to the action. It’s BS imo. The stadium is going to be significantly taller than the current stadium. Those rows up there are going to be steep.

Chris Collinsworth was likely never more “excited” in his life after seeing that.

I’m good with being closer to the end zone. Honestly, don’t care where they are really. Just looking for a cheap option to hear and cover. I haven’t decided for sure yet. But I am close to sold on of the options are 9k per PSL, I’m out. I’ll have to see though. There was a few end zone sections that had coverage and heat according to their survey. And with much smaller price tag. I’m fine with that, assuming that’s even an option. Not everything is matching up with the survey so we’ll see.

I’m in 237 which is basically the back of the end zone. I’m only 1 section in from the edge of the clubs. It’ll get to me fairly soon I think but just trying to gauge how things are compared to the survey that was put out a while back. like I stated. It appears there are multiple levels that differ incredibly in price but appear to be the same based on the survey.

Did you agree to 300 level heated clubs in your meet with them? im just curious because im seeing multiple mezzanine levels between basically the 25-40 yard lines on multiple different levels it would appear because the pricing was broad. the example I posted $3950/PSL and $1900/ticket were taken directly from the survey and listed as: A seat located Between the 40's and 25's on the Mezzanine Level Seat Coverage: Significant - Level of Seating Overhead Heating: Above Seats Annual Season Ticket Price per Seat: $1,900 Personal Seat License (One-Time Fee Per Seat): $3,950 I also found this one: A seat located Between the 40's and 25's on the Mezzanine Level Seat Coverage: Significant - Level of Seating Overhead Heating: Above Seats Annual Season Ticket Price per Seat: $1,730 Personal Seat License (One-Time Fee Per Seat): $5,950 As you can see they appear to be the same exact seat but with different prices. My only assumption is that one is a 200 level seat and the other a 300 level seat. Or maybe there’s a 400 level that factors in there somewhere.

Saw this as well. Just curious what the 300s include. Based on the stadium surveys there was definitely covered and heated sections in the 300s, at least it appeared there was. And the prices were not even 5k for those seats they listed. I get it that things have changed and increased, but some of the covered and heated seats I remember were listed as $3950 for PSL and $1900/ticket. Some were more than expensive and some were less. But I think this was the cheapest I saw for heated and covered along the sidelines. There was some mezzanine level end zone seats that had covered and heat and I think the PSL was half that. I can look if needed.

Right. To my knowledge they haven’t shown anyone any new renderings while at the experience. They get to look at the models they have. And they do the seat locator with the oculus or whatever the hell they are using. From what I’ve been told, they are telling people no pictures. So that makes sense, but I also do see or hear about those people coming out and telling everyone about the amazing experience and how awesome the stadium looks. Etc.

Yup. This is it. I also heard they are going to pump cold air, some wind (not too much because of the wind confusers) and even snow and rain on multiple games a year. To give you the true outdoor experience. And the roof is going to be completely transparent

I fear this. I looked at the renderings that were available at the times and they indicate with red glow, multiple sections other than the clubs that “appeared” be heated. Of course we don’t know for sure. They appear to be telling people that are going to the snake oil salesmen meetings that the only seats that will be heated and covered are the clubs. But at the same time they aren’t telling them any pricing or any other information on the other sections if they choose not to sign up at that time either. So who knows what’s actually going to be available or not at this point.

Ok but the original point was with 5 minutes left. My guess would be he’s already got the lead by then.

Probably because they are on teams and have offenses so good that they never need to come back in ways like Allen does. You know, because the coach snatches victory from the jaws of defeat over and over again. Right @KDIGGZ

I was going to comment… hes already been through enough. Do we really need to make him suffer even more by trading him to Pittsburgh?

I’m one section over from you now. So once I get the call you’ll be very soon after me.

Ben Affleck definitely seemed to be overly defending of his loverboy after bringing up what appeared was a Bills fan posting on his social media. Or maybe it was a fan of Belicheck. I don’t know. Either way, Affleck definitely wanted to sit in his lap for that few minutes.

Hilarious is not the word I was looking for with her.

I just saw a FB post on the one group that showed this as well. Wasn’t confirmed with pic or anything but someone definitely brought it up on there. Maybe it was you. Idk.

This. Regardless of Hyde coming back or not he’s a long shot to make the team at this point. At least he should be. He’s not good. He showed a little fire and promise out there before the incident but since then he’s not even what he was before and that was a backup at best.

Apparently it doesn’t matter

Did I ever mention Worthy? Pretty sure I did not

Keon Coleman should have done better in the 40