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Thanks. I absolutely LOVE the Z9 but there’s no way I can pull the trigger on a 65” for $3500. I feel like if I’m doing that I need to go with the OLED. Or spend the little extra and get the 940e in 75”

It was the worst 89 minutes and 30 seconds the show has put out since its conception. Followed up by the best 30 seconds the show have ever produced. All with a single silenced shot from a pistol.

I’d say if you are sold on the 900 or 930 just pick whatever one is cheaper and go with it. I’ll tell you what I’ll do. I’ll tale a picture of them side by side at B.B. and send it to you. Pm me your phone number or email and I’ll send it over. The file will most likely be too large to show here.

Lol. Don’t get confused. I hate having to do all this research. I wish it was just clear that one option is better than the other but that’s not always the case. Yeah, Stereo Advantage has all of them on the floor to see. So does Best Buy (heading there now actually to just get another look at everything). You said the 930 was backlit in that last bit. Then said the 900f was full array. Did you mean edgelit? To my knowledge, they are the same but different names. The edgelit is what you don’t want. The color and brightness will not be as good. But I’ll look at them when I head to Best Buy in a little bit. The difference was the “local dimming” to my knowledge that was different in the 930 and 940 vs the 900. Now the new models will all have the same tech. The o my difference in the models above 900 will be difference is size. But I’ll see why they say at B.B. yeah, the new Samsung tech is probably going to be the best out there when it becomes reality. Right now it’s only a thought and the technology doesn’t actually exist. For the size and money I really can’t beat the tv. The only issue is I won’t have any extended warranty or anything on it. So the manufacturer will by my only lifeline. Scares me a little bit but not nearly as much as the burn in issues.

Thank god that little twat is gone.

Whos the DT that is supposed to have redic squat numbers? Is it Payne? Vita?

When you’ve had feces thrown on you, or watched someone eat their own feces, stories like this don’t surprise you.

The 930 and 940 were upgrades from the 900. The 930 came in 65” and the 940 was 75”. To my knowledge that was the only difference other than the backlit screen. In my opinion, the new 900F eliminates a one of the lines. They knew the edge lit was not as good and just decided to carry it on all TVs. Just go to Best Buy and look at their displays, I guarantee you will see a difference between the 900 and the 930 and the 940. Like insaod about the A8. technically OT should be cheaper than the A1 because it is exactly the same tv without the sub and picture frame stand. But I just like Sony will make it either more expensive, or at the least, the same price. Which essentially means you are paying more or the same for less. Ive read the stories about the burn in and image retention with the OLEDs and it scares me too. I read that Reviewed article weeks ago and the same things worry me. I dont remember what games you play but I play Madden and Call of Duty and the HID, Mini Map, clock management bar, and score bar worries the hell out of me. And because of that, unless the A8 can be had for $3k or less, I think I’m going with LED. Well, actually the QLED Samsung. It goes against what I want to do. Looking at them all side by side it’s probably on par with the 900e or so. With the 930, 940, Z9D, and oled all superior. But the price tag is steering my ship right now. I can afford to get any of them, but paying $4k for the Sony 940e, or 900f in the 75” when I can get the QLED in a 75” for $2300 is making me think it’s not worth it. At the end of the day, whatever tv I go with, will be significantly better than what I’m using right now. And most likely, my eyes can’t decipher the difference anyway. Maybe in the store, side by side you can see a difference but at home in my living room I don’t know it will matter. Besides, the only other tv I really want is the OLED, and for a smaller tv it just doesn’t seem worth it. Has burn in issues, isn’t as bright in bright rooms with lots of sunlight. The LED and QLED are much better in those regards. Unless I’m going with the Z9D but I’m not spending that kind of money on a 65” that’s not OLED. what gaming system do you have and what games do you play?

I agree that the forst 3-4 seasons were great. And right about there is when there was a writers strike. Completely changed everything imo. I believe for a while they had scabs writing for them and they screwed up everything

If there wasn’t a writers strike during that show it probably would have went a little differently

Thanks, to my knowledge, the 900f will take the place of the 900e, and the 930e. It will be backlit which is better. No clue why it doesn’t include the 940e as well. The 940e I believe has all the same options. What sucks is is that I really want to know what the price on the A8 is going to be and it’s the only tv on that list where the pricing is not available. Technically it’s supposed to be the same as the A1 without the 5 degree slant and without the 4” sub in the stand. So you would think it’s less than the 65” A1 but knowing Sony, you will pay more for less because people didn’t like the slant. Stereo Advantage has all the Sony’s on display. And it shows clear differences between all of them. I believe the 930e and the A1 are side by side there with the LG opposite side of the room in clear view. Imo the Full Array Local Dimming on the 900f vs 900-930e is the big difference and it’s a huge upgrade for the 900f. All of them have amazing color and brightness but without seeing it, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the (FALD) is going to produce much blacker blacks. They are touting it as the best possible blacks other than the OLED or the Z9D

I’ve done too much research on all of them to accept “just buy X” and leave it at that. Get into your reasons. Especially Considering any review I’ve see says the OLEDs are the best TVs every produced and not a single review shows the Samsung’s come anywhere near them. Like I’ve stated already I can get a sick deal on a Samsung QLED that makes it worth the consideration for me. But I’d love to know why you say this. And what experience do you have? Like are you just person that has owned a Samsung for 13 years? Did you work at Best Buy or something?

You are all over the place

Oh the priveledges of being the President.

Now that you put it like that... yes

I’d like to add this to anyone that is stating the upgrade and technology are not worth it. It’s all a matter of opinion and need. Yes of course all 4k TVs will go down in price in the near future. If I waited until next year I’m sure I could have any one of these TVs for about $1000 less or more. However by that rationale I’d have to keep waiting and waiting because next year a new technology will be out and then I’ll be waiting until those TVs go down in price. And the cycle just keeps going on and on. As it is, almost every large screen tv for sale in stores now are all 4k. When stores are only selling 4k, it means the cable companies are right around the corner from much more broadcasting. Also, LED 4k TVs have been around for a while now and the tech hasn’t exactly stopped moving forward but it’s hardly going anywhere. Unless you go with OLED which is most likely the next new tv tech because of their perfect blacks. And I’ll say this, if you don’t believe it, and haven’t seen it for yourself, you should head to Best Buy or some other video store and check them out side by side and you will see that not all TVs are the same. I dare anyone to look at an OLED and not be in awe of the perfect black levels and clarity, especially compared to an LED. Now if it’s actually worth it to that person to spend an extra 1-2k on it is another thing altogether.

You are correct. More channels do not broadcast in 4k. But as I previously said in the post, I watch a ton it TV. If I’m watching a movie, I’m buying it. I own well over 500 DVD’s and BluRays. I will just buy 4k movies going forward. And there is more and more 4k content every day. If you wait wait until the technology is mainstream and is played more regularly, that’s fine. I am in need of a new TV and want the best one on the market for my money so that it lasts me another 10 years like my last one, which wasn’t one of the best TVs when it came out and I regretted it within a short period of time.

I think Sony is basically phasing out the 900e tech with the introduction to the 900f. It is basically a 930e/940e. At the price point of $3999 for a 75”. Yeah, I heard previously to not expect HDMI 2.1 until the end of 2018 at the very earliest. One thing that’s an advantage to Samsung btw and I’ll get into it in a min. I haven’t been looking into the 930e much because if I’m going with the 900series Sony’s then I expect to go with the 940e 75” which is already backlit vs edgelit. But I also want to see the comparison. I also want to see if the price drops at all on the 940e. Because if I could get for $3k it’s a done deal. Like I said, I believe the 930e is being replaced altogether. The 900f comes in all sizes. It’s really the 900, 930, and 940 all in one tv just depending on what size you are looking for. They aeem to be pushing that set, the Z9D, and the OLED. Everything ive read says there is no worry of burn in or permanent image retention on OLEDs unless you are playing something on a loop like in the stores, or leave something on the screen for days without changing it. But that’s what I’ve read. I’ve also read and watched reviews of people complaining after just a short period of time of image retention and burn in both. I’ve got pics from the LG in the store and it makes me ill just thinking about it in a $3k television. With that said, I didn’t see any burn in on the Sony at all. My big worry is playing video games on it. And while any game will change screens often, I can’t get over the bright white score ticker at the top and bottom of the screen on Madden, or the mini map in all bright white in COD. Even thought that wouldn’t be up non stop, I just feel that over time, in the same exact place, you lose the battle. Every review I’ve read on the LG is that it is the “Best TV ever tested” end of story. But I’ve seen it right next to the Sony and it wasn’t even close imo. Like I said tho, the sony could have been calibrated vs out of the box LG. Who knows. On to the QLED Samsung... they have by far the best colors of any tv on the market right now. But not the brightest and not the darkest. In fact the Sony 900 is supposed to have comparable or better brightness and blacks. But the colors on the QLED is by far better and the screen on the Samsung is much better for glare. So the lack of brightness and black levels are made up with that if you are putting it in a fairly well lit room. My room is incredibly bright, especially in the summertime once the sun hits that side of the house. The other thing you may like on the Samsung is their connect box. It is a box with all the inputs that run to the box and there’s an almost invisable fiber optic cable connecting the 2. Which makes it awesome when hiding wires, and in your case, availability to upgrade the One Connect Box instead of buying a whole new TV when HDMI 2.1 comes out (at least that’s what I’ve read). I javent even even thought about Panasonic to be honest. It’s something I’ll look into now I guess. Thanks for making my decision harder. Lol. But regardless, I don’t think the Hz levels are legit. There’s been more than one place I’ve been too or read reviews that it doesn’t matter anyway and everything is essentially maxed at 60 or 120hz anyway. https://www.cnet.com/news/ultra-hd-4k-tv-refresh-rates/ Regardless, I’ll look into it to do my homework and try and find out. But no where have I even heard of anyone touting the Panasonic as even being close to the Sony’s, or even Samsung’s. I keep going back to a few things. I want the Sony OLED more than any other set. But is it worth it for the price over the 900 or 940 E models. What should I expect with the 900f? Will the price on the A8 be below the A1? Because of it is by $500 then it’s a no brainer for 3k even considering the smaller screen size. Is the savings of $1k worth it to go with the QLED bs any of the others? I keep going back to having an incredible QLED for only $2300 when it’s normally a $3300 set. It’s better for my living room with its colors and glare resistance, no burn in issues, upgradability, and size. In the future when I build my theatre in my basement, when I can have complete darkness, and hopefully when the prices come down a little, the OLED is the way to go. Or or maybe I’ll jist bring my wife to Best Buy and have her pick between the Sony’s, and the Samsung.

More and more everyday.

Thanks. So a few things. I’ve seen the LG and the Sony side by side and I can’t guarantee it was fair as who knows what they do to the settings, but it wasn’t even comparable imo. So if I went with OLED it would be Sony all the way. I know they use LG panels but I think it’s the processing that makes them better. Plus the Sony is just sexy as hell. Im aware of the new models coming out for Sony and I’m worried about not taking advantage of a sale on a 2017 model before they are all gone. However I’d love to see the price points on the new models. I personally like the A8 more because of the 5* slant on the A1. As far as I know they are exactly the same however the A8 won’t have the 4” sub in the stand. So one would think it’s cheaper, but because it’s a new product and there were tons of people upset about the slant, I worry it’ll be the same price or even more expensive. The Z9D is incredible and although it’s not quite as crisp as the A1, it is definitely something I would bite the bullet on. However, for the price for the 65” being $3999 I don’t think I could justify spending that but not go with the OLED for $500 less. Looking at it, I like the fact that the new 900F will have the extreme1 processor and will basically be the new 940E/930E. However they are the same price again in the 75” ($3999) as the 65” Z9D and $500 more than the 65” OLED. Now... if I could get a 75” 940E for around $3k it would be a no brainer. And that’s what brings me to the QLED. I understand it’s not as good as any of these TVs listed above. However I can get a 75” for $2310 and that is calling to me as a way to get one of the top 5 (or so) sets out there for almost half as much as the Sony. As as far as LED vs OLED vs QLED... I like the fact that I won’t have any burn in or image retention in the QLED or LED. And although I’m sure there probably won’t be any issues in my tvs life with it if I got an OLED, it scares me to spend $4k on a TV that could be ruined because I played Madden or Call of Duty on it too long in a single day.

I really want to mess with you but I won’t here. Sure. You can have a a few slices of fatty.

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking about buying a mode and almost instantly wishing I bought the better one. Which is also why I want to splurge for the OLED. Only thing is, downgrading in size, and of course the price throws me off a little. It’s significantly more than the others for a smaller tv. I’m plan on keeping the TV for a long time. My current tv I’ve had for over 7 years and I bought it from a friend used so I’d say it’s almost 10 years old. I can always move whatever i ever I get to another room. In the future I plan on doing a theatre in the basement and getting a bigger, better oled or going with a projector anyway if that ever happens. One thing about the LED and QLED vs the OLEDs is that the OLEDs have far superior black levels however they don’t get as bright. Which makes sense to go with a LED or QLED in the living room where I have quite a bit of sunlight. Where as the perfect black levels of the OLED get lost a little bit in the reflections anyway.

I think many now are elevating their TVs and it makes sense. For example, in my living room, almost my entire sectional couch declined to almost a flat position. It really draws your eyes up on the wall a little more than if it was in a stand. So I’m a fan of it and plan on elevating mine when the time comes

That’s why I’m looking for. Thanks Teef. I agree on a a few things. The fact is the OLEDs are expensive but the LG is extremely well priced at $2700 for the 65”. I would say just do it but I am not interested in the LG. I just don’t like them and I believe the Sony has better color and better picture. So that brings me to the Sony and that one is $3400. Which is a lot but even the 800 Sony that you have in a 75” is $2200. So that leads me to my thoughts that this IS my main TV. I want it to do everything well including video games. So I would be splurging to get the TV but it might be worth it to spend the extra money to get pretty much the best TV out there right now. The only question is if it’s worth it to splurge and if it’s worth it to drop down in size. That I’m not sure yet. The Sony 940e is great but it’s actually more than the OLED unless I drop down to the same size in the 65” which makes it the 930e and drops it down to $2000.

I will be buying 4k movies and DTV will have much more 4k access within the year I’d imagine. But all tvs now are pretty much 4k. At least they can be had cheaply if you want like you said about Boyst. But there is HUGE differences in picture quality even still. The blacks in the OLED are unmatched however they don’t get as bright as LED or QLED.