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It will be ongoing for the rest of his career. Might make a new record for longest ongoing thread. Every single play he’s ever been on the field for will be critiqued.

However based on your argument, If literally any single player at any position in the entire NFL plays really well in the first 2 seasons, they will do the same exact thing that claim a RB would do. And the fact is still that RBs make significantly less than just about any position in the league that isn’t a kicker or punter. not to mention, if your RB is truly doing that well that he holds out for a bigger contract, then he’s probably on his way to and extremely great career. God forbid we sign a player that playing really great and making differences on the field. Or maybe when he becomes so well and a problem, you just trade him to another team and get draft picks for him. The possibilities are endless.

Been saying this for weeks and somehow nobody wants to acknowledge it.

This reason alone makes me want to draft Hall in the first round. Maybe we can drive Schoop insane to the point that he jumps off a bridge.

IF… a big IF, Williams makes it to 13-15. Beane should be on the phone with every team that’s on the clock until we make the trade, or he gets drafted.

Ouch. So tough. love: -Hamilton, Gardner, Stingley in a trade if they fall to about 15. -Hall if a trade up happens expect: -Booth/Hill -Sky Moore/Pickins Settle: -Hall -Woolen/Gordon/Emerson/Cross/Pitre

I know this is fake because it hasn’t been New Era stadium in a while. Nice try though. 🤢 🤮

I really like White and would hope for him in round 3-5 if we don’t land Hall earlier. But there is no comparison. They aren’t close in talent and physicality.

Who is that WR you are expecting to get that out of at 25? many would argue that after Jameson, Olave, Garrett, you aren’t getting that. if you bring up Sky Moore or Austin I’m gonna throw up. Way too small.

More of a reason to pick up a RB in the first and have the ability to add the 5th year option. Hell, even the franchise tag in a RB is just over $9m which is the 2nd cheapest tag per position in the league behind K/P. Which makes the desire for an early RB make more sense. Especially since you generally get RBs in their prime early in their careers and the drop off in production is steep after about 5 years (based on history). Quarterback$29.703 million Running back$9.570 million Wide receiver$18.419 million Tight end$10.931 million Offensive linemen$16.662 million Defensive end$17.859 million Defensive tackle$17.396 million Linebacker$18.702 million Cornerback$17.287 million Safety$12.911 million Kicker/punter$5.220 million

The bolded is another reason why they may trade out of one of their early picks. And I’ll admit I don’t know this but I’m sore it wouldn’t be hard to look it up. I’m just not going to bother doing it. But…. If they were going to struggle signing their draft picks, wouldn’t it make sense that they would eliminate some of that struggle by removing a 2nd first round pick off their payroll? What is the expected cost of a player at pick 7? Again, I don’t know if it would even be that big of an issue, but it does warrant being talked about.

Beane never said Hall wasn’t a first round talent. He did say they had about 20 first round grades. And he did say taking a RB that high would take a phenomenal talent. But he never said Hall was not a first round talent. You were doing alright until that.

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Even add in AJ and a 6th or 7th rounder and I’m good

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Personally, I’d be more on board with Hughes as a backup DE than Epenesa. AJ hasn’t shown much of anything other than losing weight and begetting pushed around by OLmen in this league. I believe he will either be part of some trade package or gone before the year starts. Just my hunch. I don’t have the quote with Sanders, but they also asked him if he would be back playing this year and he said he would wait until after the draft and see where things are with him. You appeared to take it out of context. You must watch CNN a lot. Regardless, Sanders is another one, I’d much rather have him as our 6th or 7th WR than Kumerow who can’t seem to stay on a team like ever. Even after Rodgers wigged about about him he came here. Where he barely played and hasn’t done anything despite all the love for him. Then was picked up by the Saints where he couldn’t do anything. Then back here to be practice squad bait again. Yeah, if it came down to Air Jesus or Sanders, I’m taking Sanders every day of the week and twice on sundays.

Ok so maybe “vet minimum” is a stretch in the story. But I firmly believe they will both sign and it won’t be for a lot

I, 100% believe that Sanders and Hughes will be back after the draft. Maybe before TC starts. As vet minimum contract guys. Hughes will end up being the 10th DL and Sanders will be the 6th-7th WR. Just my opinion and I’m fully on board with it.

Thank you. Im sure it took a whole 13 seconds to google that.

This is 100% where I am with all this. I know it’s not because Beane doesn’t believe in this philosophy, but it really feels like super bowl or bust. Because of that I’d risk keeping him and letting him go next year for nothing. Or MAYBE a comp pick. But I am not a fan of him being the leader of this defense anymore. Lloyd Beavers Walker Harris Muma Anderson scares me because of his inexperience. It’s big bust vs big reward imo.

I really like that idea as well. I’m fact ive made comments before about how I would run a completely different scheme on defense, using 3 safeties for a huge majority of the time. Because Hamilton is so good. Can do the job of a S, CB, or LB if needed. Id still draft a LB later because you can’t go into the season with just Milano at LB. but I really like that idea. Dax Hill could potentially play that role as well. Although nothing like Hamilton could. Not just, “just don’t overpay him” but I’m a believer that we should trade him while we can get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing. At the same time I think there’s about 4-5 LB in this draft that would be instant upgrades over him. Might take a few games for a rookie to be comfortable and I wouldn’t want them calling the defense. I’m still a believer of having Poyer or Hyde doing it. There’s about 4 teams in the league where the S calls the defense.

I just look at it like this… I don’t hate Edmunds. It I think he is average to maybe good. At best. But I get that people think he’s special. I get that he’s been to multiple pro bowls. I get that he is still growing and could become much better. But I don’t want to be the team to pay him (likely) 15+ million a year. BUT… you just might find a new coach that is offensive minded, and wants to bring along one of his familiar players from his old team to help run the defense that he wants his DC and team to run. because of that, I feel like Edmunds has more value to someone like Shoen and Daboll than he would to another team. Who knows. At the end of the day we just have a few more days of this crap and then we can start complaining about how the Bills traded up to the top 15 to draft Breece Hall when they could have just taken him at 25 😉

You are assuming Edmunds trade value and Bradberrys based on your assumption. Many people, imo have Edmunds value listed wayyyyyy too high. Partially because they think he’s very good and I think he’s pretty much garbage. If the players, and coaches of the nfl think he’s a pro bowl player, I’m not going to argue, I’m going to let him go at his highest value and future potential being only 24 years old. All while I draft an immediate replacement that I already think would be better right out of the gate. But I’m not the GM and I don’t make those calls. Which I’m pretty sure you are happy about. at the end of the day, you likely wouldn’t have even commented but I just had to slip that Hall comment in there just to tip you.

Yeah. Had me up until there. Honestly I’m not so sure next years first is needed. The Giants would be getting the leader of their defense for the next 5+ years once they resign him. A 2xpro bowl starter That’s got tons of experience. (At least that’s how it reads). We get a starter at CB. We trade first rounders this year with a bunch of extra picks, and conditional picks involved. Maybe next years 2nd would be there. I also don’t think you need to move to 7 to get Lloyd either. Many mocks have him falling to late teens/early to mid 20s. But if you think this is the guy to run your defense and will be a game changer for the next 5+ years then you do it. At the same time grabbing a very good starting CB. then you can trade back up into the early 2nd and take Breece Hall 😉

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