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💯 on just about everything you said. I’d say that’s pretty much the way of athletes and famous ppl now. They move to Florida or California. They have all the money in the world so why limit yourself. If Allen woke up tomorrow with Kelly’s money, he’d jump out a window. But yes, Allen is 1,000x a better person than Kelly was.

Agree on the 2nd part for sure. I wouldn’t want to get into numbers in the first part. Fact is, Davis used to be super reliable and he’s fallen off this year. Not sure what the reason and I won’t pretend to know either. But he’s definitely not held up to his deal as a 2nd WR.

Motor at a team friendly deal, yes. And I’d expect Hines to take a restructured deal. Add in some guaranteed money. Some incentives. And expectations that he wouldn’t be a first or maybe even a second option.

So when he was dropping balls and not playing well, those people weren’t right? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I will agree with you McK can and is sometimes very good. He’s also sometimes very bad. He’s inconsistent at best. He’ll have 6 games in a row with 1 catch for 6 yards, then have a game with 7 for 80+. It’s infuriating actually that he’s not better all the time. Because you are right, he does have it in him to be very good.

Basham has played ok considering his draft pick. It’s the fact that AJE is JAG and was drafted too early. I was a huge fan of his coming out as well. But because of Covid he lost too much weight and changed his game imo. I would have preferred a big thick LDE which is why I thought we were getting out of him. Then he went and lost about 40lbs of his college playing weight. The first season he was pushed around way too much. He’s steadily gotten better, but it hasn’t been enough to earn a 2nd contract imo. But Basham should get a team friendly one for a backup imo. all the RBs have been a disappointment imo. Moss was a waste. Had high hopes for him too. And I really like Motor, but the fact is he’s JAG thy could be replaced. He’s the definition of the old “RBs are a dime a dozen” type of guy. He doesn’t deserve a 2nd contract unless you can get him for close to vet min to be a backup going forward. Cook has been slow to get up to speed but I see him taking big strides moving forward. At least I hope he does. I actually believe he is capable of being close to an every down back for this team. Keep Hines and draft a late round bruiser or find one in FA.

In Beanea defense, his later round picks have panned out very nicely and they have earned 2nd contracts that exceeded what was expected out of them.

Actually that is all pretty much correct. Except possibly the OC remark.

In?!?

Great for Allen. The leading rusher of this terrible rushing offense.

That’s not the point. I was simply stating the OP was trying to argue that the run game was good last night because between 2 players they rushed for over 100 yards. It’s comical. not to mention the argument that you are trying to make about them being 5th in rushing. Especially when your leading rusher is your QB. Some of those are designed but the majority is when he plays hero ball and creates something when nothing is there and everything breaks down. Hardly an impressive running game.

He can and most likely will need to be a pocket passer at some point. Let’s just hope they invest in the OLine when that happens.

The problem is like the Ryan Miller argument years ago. Edmunds is really good when he has “all” the pieces around him. But when one or two guys is missing he isn’t as effective. Well, buckle up because Poyer likely ain’t coming back, especially if they pay Edmunds. And Hyde is a year away from not coming back. And that’s if he can even manage to overcome his injury.

He was busy sucking in his gut and not breathing almost all of the time.

Never once did I not say that he cant or doesn’t make plays. He’s a starter in the NFL. Of course he can. What separates him from really good LBs is his situational awareness. And that’s what makes me not want him back on this team if he’s going to demand too 5 LB money. For what we’re paying him on a rookie contract that’s fine. He doesn’t deserve a future contract imo. And right now, Beane so far has agreed since he hasn’t been resigned yet. Time will tell. Youre no more right than I am there. Yet not enough to earn a 2nd contract yet. Got it

I have no problem finding the good plays and pointing them out. I also find a lot of bad plays where Edmund’s should be making game changing plays or tackles but is no where to be found. I call it like I see it. And yes… he is my whipping boy. Because he’s the leader of the defense. The player making calls. And he’s out of position or late to the play often. Like I said, physically he has it all. It’s disappointing that he’s not the best LB in the league imo.

Let me be clear. I don’t think Edmunds is terrible. But I do think he’s overrated. I hate him because he has all the tools to be amazing. Yet too many times he misses the mark. For me at least. I see him as a reactionary player almost 100% of the time. The reason why he looks so good at times is because he is a physical freak of nature. I’d rather have an instinctive LB manning the middle of the D. But that’s me. Yes, if he took the same deal that Milano did, I’d take him in a heartbeat. But I don’t think it’ll be anywhere near that.

Well. That’s likely going to happen because if they find a way to keep Edmunds financially (I doubt they can), then they will surely not be able to resign Poyer, or extend Hyde after next season. Fwiw, I LOVE both Hyde and Poyer, but I’m not a fan of the extending Hyde, especially with his neck now. And Poyer isn’t without his injury issues now too. Point is, they will be 33 and 34 years old after this season. I just think it’s time to move on from them. Still not sure Edmunds fits money wise tho.

Again. Arguing that Edmund’s is good by saying that his backups were terrible is not a good argument. Any other starting caliber MLB in this league would have done significantly better than Dodson or Bernard. Hell, Klein came back and in less than a week he looked better than those 2 jags. You’re missing the point. A reasonable starter would be just as effective in this defense. At least for the money they would get vs what Edmunds is going to demand. and I love the argument that I don’t make the decisions and Beane and the staff do. No crap. But guess what, here we are in a contract year, and Beane still hasn’t extended Edmunds. He’s had plenty of Chances. He’s resigned and added to multiple contracts over the past 2 years, yet Edmunds is still on a rookie deal. So right now, I’m more right than you are. It also appears that The Bills don’t and won’t have enough cap space to sign him to a future contract either. I hope you’re right. He becomes the best MLB we ever had and gets paid and earns it. Leads this defense to multiple SBs. I just don’t see it. And I personally think the teams money is better spent somewhere else. Like giving Josh more weapons and OL help. But that’s just me.

Are you really arguing that the running game is good by saying that 2 guys together got over 100 yards? Yeah, argument lost there.

Is he though? You don’t know that anymore than @beerme1 or anyone else here knows. When the time comes we will all see. In time. Probably around March

I’m an Edmunds hater. I mean I get that he’s better than our alternative right now but I don’t think he’s special. Physically he’s elite. But he doesn’t make splash plays that you would expect out of a top 5 paid MLB. And even if he was, I don’t want to be the team to give it to him and we don’t have the money to do it anyway. Better hope he takes a stupid discount if you want him to stay. yes, he made some good plays tonight. He always has. It’s not the plays that he’s in on that I see. It’s the ones that he should have been in on that he’s nowhere to be found.

That’s because you saw life with Bernard and Dodson. Big difference between them and starting caliber MLB in the nfl.

Should have bet the under. Damn it

I am not sure to throw anything in the way of Davis yet. He seems to have been impacted by the pressure possibly. He has major drop issues this season and in the past he’s had hands of gold. McKenzie seems to be about what he has been previously. He’s a gadget player that works well when he’s the offenses 4th or lower option, or has specific plays scripted for him. But with defenses keying in him as a 3rd WR, he has been disappointing. Crowder never had a shot with him being injured. Could only imagine what he may have done if healthy. May never know. Shakir has had some good plays, but mostly plagued by dumb rookie mistakes. Josh hates rookies imo. He’s said it in the past that rookies make dumb mistakes. Until he earns Joshs trust, he’s going to continue to wait. Maybe year 2. Same for Cook, but instead of Josh, input McDermotts name into the argument. He at least seems to be having some success. But that might be because of how bad our running game is/has been.

I think this is more correct now imo. Davis hasn’t exactly taken the #2 role by storm this season. And to top it off, McKenzie, Crowder, and Shakir have also been disappointments.