Leonidas

Jesus Christ, do you ever shut the hell up?

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Not entirely true. Ronnie Brown can legitimately throw the ball (hence why when he went down and Rickey Williams gave us that gift on Thanksgiving last year). Plus, blitz eight guys every time and I guarantee you give up a big play, even with Fred Jackson throwing the ball. IIRC, the Ravens were successful stopping the wildcat in it's infancy because their LB's were disciplined in their gap assignments. I seem to remember Ray Lewis making a lot of tackles in both games.

Sorry, there's no room for this sort of rational thought here. Either you hate-hate-hate Edwards and he's a kitty who can't throw it deep and you want to package Lynch-second day draft pick-Whitner for Troy Smith...and of course, Gaither, or Brian Brohm's utter lack of productivity in the pros is irrelevant since you heard his name in college once or twice and he will undoubtedly lead us to the promised land. No in-betweens.

No, he couldn't. Mark Brunell has no business being in this league. He hasn't put up a 67.7 QB rating in four years. He's horrible. Sure there is. TJack has had a FAR superior supporting cast than Fitz had in Buff or Cincy. I'd take TJack over Fitz, but not by much. Fitz is by far the smarter QB and neither are accurate, but TJack can make more plays. Well, no argument there...

Red suggested bringing in Jeff Garcia.

It doesn't make any sense for a rebuilding team to bring in a 40-year old QB. Troy Smith might have it, he might not. But it would be a low-risk proposition and it wouldn't preclude us from trading for an LT if that's the direction the FO wanted to go. Troy Smith wouldn't require more than a fifth at absolute most; a solid LT would require a first or second round pick most likely.

Actually, you asked if any starting QB had a weaker arm than Edwards, and we presented you with about 10 options, give or take. But believe whatever you want. You said he had the weakest arm among starting QB's in the league. I say you're delusional. You and ICE should start a fan club. You're both going to be so pissed when he's starting the season at QB...

Glad to see McGahee go. He's done little for Baltimore and has even been replaced in the starting lineup. Drafting him was a huge mistake. Travis Henry was perfectly sufficient at RB and we could have filled in holes elsewhere. Antoine Winfield was a liability in pass coverage and not worth the money he got in Minny. Same can be said for Clements, although they were obviously very different players. Bledsoe was regressing at the time. I wasn't surprised to see him go, nor was I sad. He didn't want to be a backup and obviously couldn't hack it as a starter anymore. Leonhard isn't any good. He's good for the Jets system (and the former Ravens system), but I'm not upset at losing him. I'll take the Senator over him. Sam Adams, Pat Williams and London Fletcher were big mistakes that would have cost comparatively very little to keep. I was also upset when we didn't re-sign Mike Hollis. He was a good kicker, but Donohoe was dead-set on getting this Lindell guy from Seattle. Lindell's been good the last few seasons, but he's also missed some huge kicks (Cleveland MNF, Pitt week 17 at home) and doesn't strike me as "clutch" by any means.

The debate of Fitz vs. TJack is an honest one. I don't want either has a starter. But Fitz vs. Brunell is not even close. Brunell is absolutely finished. He's only playing at this point to stave off bankruptcy for one more year. The fact that someone will even employ him is incredible.

You're embarrassing yourself, dude. Not to mention, several people have delivered on your challenge, citing Pennington, A. Smith and Delhomme as having potentially weaker arms (not that this can be proven concretely, but that's what makes it so easy for you I suppose). I would also submit that Sage Rosenfels - were Favre to retire and Childress to realize how back TJack is - would qualify, as would Colt McCoy in Cleveland should he start, as well as either Derek Anderson or Matt Leinart in Arizona. Matt Hasslebeck in Seattle certainly can't throw it any further than Edwards at this point in his career, and should Tebow start in Denver my money would be on Edwards' arm. If dark horse candidate Charlie Batch wins the job in Pitt that's a no-brainer, and since Leftwich can't get out of his own way to release the ball the point is moot with him as well. I've never seen Vince Young throw it all that long, and with his shot-put type motion I wouldn't be surprised if Edwards could throw it further. Edwards certainly has a stronger arm now than Kerry Collins did last year or would this year, and the same goes for Jeff Garcia this year (if he were to catch on), last year, or the year before. Besides, Rubes is right. Does this need to be brought up every day??

Actually, Tedy Bruschi is a pretty good analyst, all things considered. Hated him in the uniform, but to hate him now is irrational. At least you don't live here in peasant central. *sigh* So was mine. I dumped the B word.

Does a moderately impressive #11 overall pick in his third season really constitute an "unknown" or an "underdog?" Kudos to at least talking about someone other than the usual suspects. +1

I didn't do it...

At just about the same height, MJD outweighs Sproles by 25+ lbs., and their running styles are completely different. And Reggie Bush ran a 4.33 at his pro day while Spiller ran a 4.37 at the Combine, so I'm not sure how Spiller has more speed. Solid post, otherwise.

Yes, but everything you said was accurate, for better or worse. You even called me 'mercurial,' so after looking up the word myself, I asked my friends if they knew what it meant. Their responses varied: - It means you drive a Mercury, like [our friend]'s old mini-van - adjective: Likely to cause heavy-metal poisoning... - mer·cu·ri·al /mərˈkyʊəriəl/ Show Spelled[mer-kyoor-ee-uhl] –adjective 1. changeable; volatile; fickle; flighty; erratic: a mercurial nature.... See More 2. animated; lively; sprightly; quick-witted. 3. pertaining to, containing, or caused by the metal mercury. 4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the god Mercury. 5. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the planet Mercury. I'm going to go with #4... being a deity sounds fun! Either way, I'm glad I could help.

Am I allowed to post yet? Honestly, I think it's because Jahvid Best is one hard hit away from getting Steve Young'ed. With all the concerns over concussions over the last year, and the off-the-field work of former players bringing post-concussion syndrome to light, Best represents a very real possibility of being not long for the game. It's not like he had one, remember, he's had a few, and they're being taken more seriously these days then even just a couple of years ago. When compared to McCluster, I would take a different approach. I never watched McCluster in college, but at Roscoe Parrish-size I can't imagine him running between the tackles. Not in the pros. If they really wanted another Chris Johnson, they needed someone to do that, and I think McCluster fits more of a Darren Sproles mold. Ask SD how that worked last year. I'm not sure why people are jumping on you. It's a cogent, coherent, well thought out question. Not even a criticism. It'll be interesting to see how Best does in Detroit and McCluster does in KC. I would think Best would certainly be more of a workhorse than McCluster but I guess that's why they play the games.

Eh, my bad. Nathaniel Turner was who I was thinking of.

Except I'm not going to the gallows. At worst I'll be excommunicated from a Bills message board. Hardly the same thing. And yeah, Galileo kept on trucking even with the Church doing what they could to keep him from shattering their precious little universe.

You want to make a list of people throughout history who have been obstinate and unrepentant but in the right? Slow news day? MLK Jr. Malcolm X Jim Crowe Thomas More Galileo John Proctor Lincoln Chafee Jacques Chirac The pendulum swings both ways, John.

Really John? You certainly dug deep into the annals of history for that one. BravO.

Sorry, but history has proven that sometimes being obstinate and defensive is doing the right thing. Bro.

I didn't make a decision on anything. I exercised my opinion. TG decided to pack up his things and go home. Maybe he's the one you should be angry at.

Just to clarify, personal attacks on me are okay, but registering a complaint about ESPN to one of their sports writers is not? Okay, just checking. Sorry, I don't read Ayn Rand. And the well-being of the group, eh? Okay, let's examine. I've spent the better part of the last month trying to keep people updated with "insider" information by posting relevant things from ESPN Insider that most of you don't have access to. I get nothing, no thanks, or anything. That's fine, really. But then I register a complaint to an ESPN writer who takes it totally to heart like I insulted his kid or something and packs up his things and goes home, and suddenly I'm the bad guy? Give me a !@#$ing break. No, I'm not apologizing. Certainly not at this stage.

King Leonidas I? I would hope so. Outside of that ****ty comic-book-based movie, his story was fascinating. Keep it up though, John. You're a national sports writer engaging an anonymous member of a football-based forum in the off-season. You've come a long way from "not wanting to get into it."