Mr. WEO

well then it wouldn’t be worth starting a thread about it, right? or..you could change the title to “most betting sites have Bills, not Jets, as AFCE favorites” if accuracy is your goal

if a preseason hero is your trade target goal, why not go after Nate Peterman?

yeah, really. WTF is this? cut all the picks!!!

trade a pick for a bad team's 3rd string QB because he didn't stink in preseason? this thread deserves some sort of award...

only 1 of 6 has Jets as favorites...so, not really.

seems like a good deal for both teams. what's the issue?

What do I care about Flores. He was put in a position he was clearly not fit for--not his fault. But he really didn't take advantage of it. Tough to get along with. Maybe he will get that personal growth and get another shot someday at HC. "Pretty much everyone" said Tua would light up the NFL? You just made that up. But yes, better Offensive weapons always help a young QB. So what? It's strange to mention any QB only to compare them to the "great ones". Obviously, the term itself requires that there are very few of them. Nearly all current QBs are not "the great ones", so what's the point of bringing that up? Everyone already understands this intuitively. Nothing amazing here...

Josh Allen threw for 3100, 20 TD and they went 10-6 and went to the playoffs in his second year. No one here is comparing Allen's skills and talent to Tua's, so why even bring it up? No one would argue that Tua did not get better once McDaniels got with him--and because of him. How many coordinators did Flores go through in his brief stint in Miami? It was chaotic staffing. Offenses were awful. Then they canned him. 2 years later, number 1 Offense in the NFL. How many current franchise QBs in this league have done great things "when it matters"? That's a strange dig to assign to one QB. These are some of the problems with your argument.

If you understood irony, you would laugh at this post as I am. What is the scouting report for Ty? Or in 5 years there still isn't enough film on him?

If he's lucky...

So....players who need motivation are a problem, so Brady was a problem because he required harsh treatment from BB to motivate him? Only one sued the league when he got canned.. he's not the first HC to get fired after a winning record. not even close. Did you misspell "Herbert"? Anyway, your problem is that Tua got better after Flores left.

He's old enough for the HOF!

I do disagree: Ty Johnson isn't in "year 2"--he's entering his 6th year on his 3rd team and he has about 1000 career yards rushing. In fact, the Bills couldn't find anything for him to do Offensively last year, despite no real RB2 to compete with--he's a Bills zero so far. Davis is a complete unknown as he hasn't taken a snap in a real game yet. So far, he's indistinguishable from Frank Gore Jr. Why would you claim they are a big "upgrade" despite this?

I think it’s that McDaniels just isn’t an a-hole

Flores is 43, McDaniel 41.....same "school"

Speaking of insanely hyped first round flops: https://apple.news/AgU9YzAkyT2W1JoYlLeCzZA Anthony Richardson getting mocked by Bengals D…

Hiring a position coach to be their HC was an incredibly dumb decision by the Fins (the Browns wouldn't even have him!). Flores was a bad choice, especially paired with a rookie QB, whom he was completely unequipped to coach. The Dolphins Defenses in his tenure weren't very good either, going 32, 6, 16 in points allowed. Obviously Tua got a lot better under McDaniel.

You list the best weapons on this team (not named Josh Allen) as guys who need to "take a step forward" (they did so last year)...while listing a journeyman/bum like Ty Johnson and 4th round 24 year old rookie Davis as an "upgrade" at RB??

hmmm...you may be onto something

Spiller had a single superlative season... He had the second best catch % on the team--ahead of every WR/TE/RB except Shakir. the takes in this thread are getting nuttier by the hour

You mean, like, a no huddle Offense?

I can't disagree with the bolded part. But, again, Allen is going to miss or not look the way of plenty of open receivers, but there's no reason to believe he wouldn't connect with some other receiver on every play you screenshot.

yeah, i agree. You can isolate nearly any receiver in any game and point out where he was open but didn't get a target.

three (3) threads say you're wrong

I heard he is in the HOF as a "gunner".....perhaps the greatest ever, I heard