Mr. WEO

Double negatives aside....your point has been pretty clear in each of your posts in this thread. And suggesting he could equal Josh's win total and come up only a few TDs shy of him this year playing a full season is completely at odds with what this guy has done his whole career. It's nuts--I see you didn't repeat it in the above post. Keenum isn't better than The guys I tossed back from your list. Comparing him to backups (the only meaningful comparison for this guy): Better than Gino. Maybe Mills too (neither are top 40). Not sure about Lock. Not better than Winston, Teddy B, probably not better than Trubisky, but that's a toss up. Not better than Minshew, Foles, possibly TT. I'll toss a bone and say he might be #40.

They put Howard in for the 4th Q last week, and after Josh sat down yesterday. That's not a huge "showcasing" for max trade value. It's more like, "I don't know, maybe I have something in the back you might like, let me check"...

who would break down the plays on the sidelines for Josh during the games????

this thread

lol....

His resume is that of a journeyman backup. Pretty clear. He is not on his 8th team in 9 seasons as "a function of the talent around him". In Denver, he had Philip Lindsay, Emmanuel Sanders, DeMaryius Thomas (8 games), and Courtland Sutton--not exactly chopped liver. He eeked out 18 TDs on 15 ints and they got rid of him. The year before that, on the Vikings, he also had a loaded roster. Only 22 TDs, but won 11 games. Then they dumped him too. He would win 10-11 games for the Bills?? The Bills, with the NFL's best QB (who had "30+ TDs") won 11 games last year! Anyway, you listed Mayfield, Goff, Tua, Zach Wilson, Ryan, and Jones as guys you think Keenum is as at least as good as. Not to belabor the obvious, but if that was true, the Browns, for instance, would have kept him after singing the soon to be suspended Watson. I was high on Keenum here on this board when he came out of college, but....come on! He's a scrub who might get a loaded team some wins. Which is fine for the one guy on the roster that fans never want to see enter a game. He has one decent preseason game (after a not so decent one) against guys scrambling for a roster spot---and now he's "way underrated". ...

You’ve again missed the point I made about Peterman. Im not “underrating” the guy. He’s a backup at the tail end of a backup’s career. He’s in his 8th roster in 9 years. We heard about how underrated Trubisky was—not before he was a Bill, not after they dumped him either. Only while he wore the jersey. Last week, Keenum looked cooked. Now hes “top 40 in the league”. if you are convinced that Keenum, a guy who played 1 full season, amassed exactly 50% of his “15000 yards” in 2 of his 9 seasons in the league and who has done nothing for the past 2 years is better than 8 guys who will start this year…then all evidence points to your opinion being unique in comparison to that of every front office in the NFL. There’s no way I can counter that.

Peterman was awful. But like him, Keemun looked good (this week) against scrubs. There’s no chance Keenum is between 20-40….

McD thought NP was better than Josh after a full preseason….

nope

I came for the fresh Edmunds takes…

Nate Peterman all over again.....

True, but not the point. And no one here has claimed otherwise.

They used him appropriately and effectively. See the Bills game. I’m saying he outperformed expectations. Herbert doesn’t belong in a top 5 discussion yet. Maybe this year..

that's not the point. Jones added value to NE, when few thought he would. The Herbert pick hasn't produced the desired result for LA yet--they have yet to win 10 games.

If you tuned everything else out and only turned on the games just before kickoff, with the sound down, you will be just fine. The rest is all just drama fabricated by the league to keep the NFL on the front page year round. Don't get sucked into it.

With Jones, a rookie (from Bama, no less), NE foguth for the Division title to the end of the season and won 10 games, made the playoffs. With Herbert, 2 3rd place finishes, one winning season (9 wins in a 17 game season), zero playoff games.

like who?

RIP

I've been to Florida

one or two should always be in one's Rolodex...

'cept in Westminster....

I heard this at a wedding a week ago

I'll wait for noted sage Bruce Smith to tell me what to think about this one....

That AB?