Mr. WEO

i don't think anyone would argue that an elite QB can make any WR look better than an average QB can. As for Brown, with a rookie Jackson, he was the team leader in yards, YPC, YPG and TDs---mainly because he was about the only option other than Crabtree. In Buffalo, it was either Brown of Beasley. When that's all you got, guys like Brown by default will put up numbers. When teamed with better receivers, Brown goes back to where he is. Take away Diggs and replace him with Demarcus Robinson....see what ensues.

wow, BOTH of Edmunds parents are among the "national panel of media members"??

I didn't say anything like that. I'm saying the bums he's got aren't helping any QB. Better WRs elevate mediocre QBs. I gave you two examples. Put Diggs on the Ravens and Lamar looks like a better passer again.

look, everyone already understands he's not a great passer, but those guys are bums. Give a legit top 5 WR and he'll look better. John Brown is a jag journeyman. Crabtree was a journeyman who bounced around on 3 teams his last 3 years (including Ravens). Both of these guys had 2 1000+ yard seasons each in a total of 20 seasons. Hurts is no natural great passer, yet he's got 2 top WRs and they get nearly every target (281 combined!). Compare that to his output (and to whom) in 2021. Adding AJ Brown was huge for this guy. Look at Tua with the addition of Hill. He goes from "weak armed QB" to "MVP candidate".

oh, you mean Devin Duvernay, Andy Isabella, Demarcus Robinson, Rashod Bateman, James Proche and the carcass of DeSean Jackson? Come on....

what wideouts?

I remember those VHS tapes...

actually, scrolling back, you were that "other poster". They drafted Montana in 1979. There's talk of them trading Lance--especially when there is talk of the 49ers in the SB vs. the Bills with Purdy (taking the last guy in the draft is a lark, not a draft move. It's no longer rare. This is obvious. and he sucked.

It's not a vacuum. It happens now more than ever. The other poster said it would be extremely rare. It's not how are the 49ers at drafting QB?

Kicker is like 89% the past 2 seasons. I doubt this was for him. It was for the "emergency holder".

Josh Allen v. Purdy?

he got tossed off the plane because he had a 53% catch rate.

The point was that both were top 10 picks who were soon dumped by their drafting teams. Rosen was so awful his rookie year, AZ sent him packing. Darnold wasn'r near;y as bad---but he too was shown the door. The same team looks ready to do the same thing with the guy that followed Darnold. It therefore would not be precedent setting---it will have happened 3 times in 3 years.

Ok how about Rosen? And Darnold?

SF is paying a kid beer money to play 100 times better than Lance. That in itself is pretty interesting, funny too.

They may have folded this year in the face of adversity if they had won 2 SBs? I don't see how or why that would follow.

Zach Wilson is the abject lesson to cut your losses and move on. Money comes a lot easier than do wins in the NFL.

Moulds over Lofton---the latter was a Packer first and foremost--by far his best years were there. Mediocre stats in Buffalo. Kyle should go up.

what year was this written? Lance is a dud.

there's a couple hundred people right there...

What ownership has hired him since then as their HC? That's what we are talking about, not QB coach. He wasn't Stafford's QB anyway. And certainly Manning continued on his HOF career for years after Caldwell was no longer his "QB coach". Before that he had a 4400+ season, after that, he had 4500 and 4700. Let me check their stats with Jimbo as HC: Manning was 85-27 under Dungy. 48-26 with Caldwell. "After he left", Manning was no longer with the Colts, but he did set a single season record in Denver, also won a SB. "After he left", Colts with Pagano had 3 11-5 seasons in a row with a new QB. Stafford had 3 of his biggest seasons passing all in a row---which ended the year Caldwell arrived. "After he left", Stafford was back to his baseline in 2020 (he was injured 2019).

where did he ever "create a culture"? He walked into an established winning machine in Indy. The culture of Caldwell was enough to get him fired after 4 seasons in Detroit and no team has sought it out since then. Unless you are redefining the word, Caldwell is the opposite of "panache". He has been likened to a mannequin. Andy Reid couldn't be more different than Caldwell. I've been critical of Reid as HC in the past before he (finally) won a SB, but the guy is a solid Offensive mind and play caller.

He stood there and watched HOFer Manning and a stacked Offense win games. When Manning went down, they went straight to 2-14. With Stafford, he had 2 playoff games in 4 years and lost them both. Neither Stafford nor Manning are walking through that Bears locker room door next season. Instead they have an option QB with mediocre talent crawling into his third season. What on earth is a 67 year old who hasn't head coached in 6 years and has been out for the league for 3 going to do for this kid?

$1350 is much cheaper than the Bills/Cardinals paid for this bum (7.8 million, a 2nd and a 5th).

Donald only makes it because of the "as of Week 15" rule