Mr. WEO

lol--it's the worst rug I've ever seen.

Well if catching 50% of your targets and dropping 10% is still a complaint, then there's that...

Huh? Araiza beat out Haack straight up. I never said otherwise. Go back to sleep.

I don't know if he did these deeds or not--how could I?. You say you know he's innocent of any allegations. That's a major difference. You are confused again. Some facts continue to elude you (or, more likely, you ignore): The Bills didn't start their investigation until after they were made aware a suit was going to be filed by the plaintiff's attorney. The Bills were made aware by the plaintiff's attorney in late July of the allegations he was going to make public in a suit against Araiza....Araiza won the Punting job on August 22. He gave the Assistant General Counsel Kathryn D'Angelo all the details. He emailed her and then spoke to her directly. (interestingly, the guy who was General Counsel would be put on leave of absence by the team after Araiza was cut---he was Russ Brandon's brother, btw, lol). And finally, there was no way for the Bills to know in August that no charges would be coming in December, when it was announced. The DA had not even begun their own investigation yet. So that is more fabrication on your part. The Bills steely resolve and confidence in the depth, breadth and quality of their "thorough investigation" lasted all of 2 days. Of course, you still haven't answered my question: if the the Bills "knew" he was innocent and no charges were coming and knew exactly the heat this would bring based on what the suit would claim, why not keep him?

Does the Bills WR have to be a welcome mat for guys who used too be Bills? Jeez.....move on

So what? They knew that as soon as they were made aware of the the suit (before the public and before he Haack was let go). So....if the knew he was innocent, and they knew what the suit would allege and therefore knew what the fallout would be, why didn't they ride it out? They absolutely knew what "the court of public opinion" would be once the suit dropped. Why not just come out and say their investigators destroyed the entire suit, so Araiza stays. It makes zero sense to say they took the time to "investigate" to satisfy themselves he was clean, despite the salacious details......and then to cut him when the salacious details became public (which they knew was coming). There's no logic to that.

It confirmed what everyone knew.

LOL i've come around. It's not like it was a national secret Reid struggled on big game day calling. Mahomes is just what he needed.

Again, the Bills knew about the suit before, not after, Araiza won the job over Haack. If the Bills were satisfied that their team "got it right", and that all of the allegations were "false", as far as they were concerned, and they knew the suit was going to be filed.....why would they cut him? They knew what the suit would detail. Why come out and say that their investigators already determined he was innocent of all charges. The Bills could have said so publicly and ended all this no? They already knew what the "optics" would be once they heard of the suit. They knew at that moment what was coming. Did they not "get it right"? So why didn't they stand by their man until the DA ruled? Put him on the PS. If they "knew" he was actually Innocent (pretend they could for your argument), why cut him? Were they really not prepared for the fallout of their clearing him? What was the point of the investigation if they were going to dump him anyway when the suit they were tipped off about dropped?

How? If you still disagree with the call you will think they are playing favorites.

Cousins is a far greater value at that price.

Ok there's that... anyway, would you feel better if you could see them getting the call wrong in real time, all together? You watching them all will not make them any more or less accurate in their review.

this thread has ended up exactly where it belonged

Has nothing to do with CTE (?). The NFL doesn't want to get too close to these bogus leagues so as to keep their stink off them. They know what everyone else can see--these leagues are bereft of talent and therefore no viewership and therefore are doomed . Every "developmental league" has folded, some multiple times. The NFL is the undisputed pro sports king---and untouchable broadcast leader for all TV content. Why would they want to be closely associated with these celebrity vanity products? They always have had the "developmental league that suits their purposes perfectly. They don't need this stuff.

no more end of life WRs retiring as Bills OP has the right idea.

LOL these leagues that can't stay solvent because no ones cares to watch their product sure "do it better" than the NFL. Anyway, these things aren't up to "Roger"

The Bills knew about the allegations before Araiza won the job. The plaintiff's lawyer called them to give them the heads up. They never got back to him. Araiza's lawyer told them weeks before (because his client, who he told to inform the Bills himself 6 weeks prior, didn't do). Their crack team of sleuths didn't even know about the allegations until the end of July...when the plaintiff's lawyer told the team counsel, yet 2 teams told the AP they knew of allegations back before the draft. It took the SPD something like 135 days to investigate and hand the case to the DA, yet the Bills did all that in, what, a week? No--they mainly relied on what Araiza's lawyers team reported. But it sure didn't look like the detective squad did NOT prepare the Bills for what as in that lawsuit, or they wouldn't have cut him---why wouldn't they just ride out the storm? They could just say, "yeah, our investigators had already informed of us of every detail in that suit and we don't believe any of it is true. Matt is one of us, he stays, an innocent Punter?" Optics? You have declared him an innocent man, what's wrong with those optics? How does a pending civil suit make him untouchable until after the suit is over? Certainly a jury of your peers will reaffirm his innocence in all this, so why wait half a season to sign him?

i didn’t say heat stroke can’t be lethal. I simply asked you who got heat stroke in the NFL this year.

Who got heat stroke?

Don't need to, I just did. Seeing as the DA didn't get the case for months after the Bills drafted the guy, there's little chance their crack detective squad would have "cleared" him before the draft. My guess is that the FO and at least Kim Pegula would have said.."for a Punter?, forget it". The suit was filed because the SDPD wouldn't turn over the case to the DA. Csse is filed and presto--DA gets the file. Why not sign him now? The allegations are bogus right?

Wait, I heard his own home stadium is actually deadly to play in. Players have nearly almost possibly died there.

His lawyer has lied on multiple occasions: about Araiza having told the Bills about the suit and about the Araiza's having him contact the plaintiff's lawyer about how much money she wanted to make it go away----before the suit was filed. Araiza's name came up within days of the party and the story was spread all over campus. Soon after SDPD began their investigation. Maybe Araiza was the only one on campus who didn't know he was the person named, right? If he's not in the video he's not in it. I would think such a video would have led to charges for those in it however

there was no contract before he was signed. True, it was his prerogative to hide both of these facts, even after he signed. Therefore he shouldn’t be surprised or disappointed at the consequences of those choices. Unless he’s a complete moron, he had to know how this was doomed to end. if he had been honest with the team—at least AFTER they drafted him, there’s the slimmest chance they would have stashed him somehow until the DA decided on charges. But he didn’t. In the end, he was too stupid to kept around and clearly not worth the embarrassment tye Bills endured over him.

Obviously, if Araiza had been honest, he would have alerted the Bills an allegation of sexual assault/gang rape (not just "statutory rape"--you keep forgetting this, crazy right?!) had been made against their draftee 6 months prior. And he would have alerted them of a law suit filed against him after they drafted him---which they had to find out about after the plaintiff's lawyer called the Bills. He hid all of this--for obvious reasons. Maybe he was thinking the Bills would be cool with all of this, that he was such a great asset as a Punter, that they wouldn't mind catching the immense heat he absolutely had to know he was going to subject them to due to his choices. A great man, to be sure.

Being "as fair as possible" is just concluding "she's a lying slut". I get it...