Mr. WEO

The ticket is the user fee. The fans aren't "using" the new stadium. Its sole tenant is. Only one class of ticket buyers are being asked to share in the cost of the construction.

There is a demand for tickets, not the PSL. that should be pretty obvious. STHers won't be given a choice to get seasons without PSL.

He's a day 1 starter, right off the bus

PSE demanded the new stadium. Fans just buy tickets. There is no demand for PSLs...except by PSE. If there was no stadium, there would have been no PSLs. PSLs are not necessary to fund this stadium. PSE could simply charge fans for tickets, and not also for their (Bills) new stadium.

Yes. Bills are a business. It's more money squeezed out of ticket holders so the owner/company can avoid taking on debt. Essentially the STHer's take on the debt burden so the Bills don't have to. That's what PSLs are for--simply to shift the "private funding" from the owner to the fans. Their sole purpose. If it was just because the Bills wanted more revenue, they would charge a PSL new stadium or not. So this extra revenue would never otherwise be "in the owner's pocket". PSLs are the way an owner says to fans "you pay for it". Pretending otherwise is being disingenuous.

No it's money I earned. Pegula's earned money is in a bank (so to speak). Your analogy doesn't make sense. He doesn't "have a business the earns income from PSLs". And he's not building a stadium either. If he was charging a PSL since he bought the team that would be different--just another billionaire squeezing as much from a loyal customer as possible. But there are no PSLs as of yet. He is using them solely to offset any actual money of his own he would have to spend (or borrow) to fund "his" portion. PSLs are worthless for the most part. It's money tied up in nothing tangible and, in Buffalo, they would be hard to resell for face value. But for the Canadians, every attendee of a game is a taxpayer...so they have already contributed to the majority of the cost of building this stadium. It makes no sense to say that there is "value" in making the same customers pay again out of pocket to fund the rest of the "private" contribution, nor is it "reasonable" when the billionaire could easily cover the difference with his own funds (which are not your funds, just to remind you).

May all this wasted energy now flow to the D Hopkins thread!! 200! 200!

RIP OBJ they were never SB contenders those years.

You can mischaracterize PSLs any way you want, I guess. But it is money that comes from season ticket buyers and is used to fund the stadium. Therefore, obviously, it cannot in any way be described as coming from the the pockets of "Pegs". And it is not "fundamentally different from every other PSL funding deals in history". It is typical for owners to put their money up front for construction and then sell PSLs to recoup their money form their customers. This is how Metlife was done, as was ATT in Dallas---and those were actually primarily privately funded. An actually fundamentally different PSL scenario involved Levis Stadium, where the team had to show they could raise 200 million in PSLs before the Goldman Sachs would lend $850 million to the public stadium authority. Erie and NYS didn't require that of Pegs... Likewise, The G4 loan program is funded, per the CBA, as a maximum of 1.5% of annual league revenue, so it's not something that Pegs has "paid into for decades". It is, like player salaries, money that the owners never see in their coffers. And as such, Pegs personally is not on the hook for such a loan. He team can pay it back by not taking their cut of away game gate receipts. This isn't a matter of different opinions...

Which 50 events? They're not.

jeez...

well, not quite as harshly as they view legal bettors....

4 of those 6 picked other Pro Bowlers.

Is your laptop autocorrecting PSLs into "Pegs"?

There you go. Later articles quoted the VP of PSE and later still, Hochul, saying as much. You know this. I don't know how you are defining "a leader", but no one else would consider "the official finger food of the Buffalo Bills" a "lead" sponsor. Those would be Hymark, Kaleida, M and T Bank, Independent Health, Toyota, Labatts, Bud, Pepsi, Tim Hortons, Wegmans, etc. You think some other companies are waiting to advertise in another stadium in Orchard Park NY when it becomes even more expensive to do so?

Erie County lawmakers voted approval of the stadium funding. Poloncarz didn't veto it. Poloncarz's acquiescence to a threat isn't quite the same as him personally "wanting a new stadium". The same article mentioned reports of the PSE threatening to move the team (PSE would later say the same) if they didn't get what they want. In most circles, that's not an "ask". You understand this. Yes, the new stadium will have sponsors. Not sure what your point is there. Are you intimating that there is a whole other cadre of potential Bills stadium sponsors advertisers that have been holding back sponsorship dollars, for decades, waiting for a new stadium? Yeah that makes no sense. The vast majority of the in stadium advertisers/sponsors will be (the same) local/regional businesses, as always.

On August 2 2021, it was first reported that PSE was asking for 1.5 billion from the Erie and the state for a new stadium and upgrades at KeyBank center. Do you have a link prior to that reporting that Poloncarz or the County wanted a new stadium built for the Bills? Yes there will be temporary construction jobs. After that, one can assume the current stadium management staff would resume work in the new stadium. The sponsors that currently advertise in Hymark will no doubt continue to advertise in the shiny new stadium.

It was built solely FOR him, at his demand.

strange hair to split.

lol....Lawrence Taylor

what are you struggling with? review each sentence slowly and independently. read it out loud in front of a mirror even...

Overruns don't accrue until the shovel is in the dirt.

lol that's a good one

No agent is getting his what he wants: huge fully guaranteed contract. For less than that, he doesn't need an agent. He just needs to pick up the phone and call the Ravens. They are waiting. Barring that, "people" aren't making him look foolish......