Mr. WEO

Look Payton doesn't want him, we know that. But he's not had an awful year and who are they going to bring in next year who is better? Only 5 QBs have thrown more TDs They've gone from dead last to 16th in points scored. As is typical for a Sean Payton team, the Defense sucks. Lamar Jackson is putting up Tyrod Taylor numbers, but he has the best running Offense in the league (guys like Gus Edwards, Justice Hill and Keaton Mitchell have 17 TDs between them!) and the top Defense on the field when he takes a break--and Jackson is a top MVP candidate!

lets both start a thread about that

come on....really? Anyway, to answer your question....you can't keep your post deconstructors straight.

Carr was benched with 2 games left in the Raiders season, then Carr was gone. Stidham is bad.

no you are all free to publish as many redundant threads as you please. maybe you feel you express your not-so-unique thoughts better than those who originally posted on this same topic---so much so that you couldn't possibly mesh your thoughts with their existing thread! Anyway "Bob Jones", you are confusing me with @Dr. Who, who called one of your posts "trollish exaggeration"... to which you responded: "posting an opinion YOU don’t agree with is not “trollish”, rather, it’s just another view….no need to throw insults and get all high & mighty." You seem to have this problem with a lot of posters. Maybe you should only post in emojis for a while..

this.....again??

Payton's coaching genius existed only in the context of Drew Brees--and even then after wining a single SB with one the best QBs of all time, he had a stretch of 4 7-9 seasons in 5 years. He isn't a competent HC--he neglects the Defensive side of the ball. I see no QB scenario next year where they get to the playoffs. His pumping up Stidham is shameless. This is the QB that owners tell the HC to play when they want to get rid of their expensive starter (see: D. Carr).

Why would they concede the playoffs? The HC claims they are "desperately trying to win" and that Stidham decision is based on "a spark". My favorite part is this: "one of the things we saw when we signed Stidham in the offseason, not only from preseason games but regular-season games, but he's a guy I'm excited to see play." Stidham took 4 snaps and attempted zero passes this year. Payton is a bum. Washed up. Same will be true next year when they sign a guy like Minshew or The Passtronaut, while they try to groom a rookie QB. That team is going nowhere with him. Yes they will cut him. If they do it in March as has been reported, he would be a 50 million cap hit in 2024. If they let him go in June, they pay him 35.4 million.

Geno fell back to earth this year (under Pete) before he went out. Wilson was paying better in Denver. You saw that. They expressly benched him to avoid a potential injury payout next season if he is injured this season. He would would be a massive cap hit if they cut him after this season ends. You don't believe that they are better off with Stidham to make the playoffs. And since that is true, you can't conclude that he was benched because he was playing poorly. see above. it absolutely is financial. otherwise there is no was you roll with Stidham when you may make the playoffs.

you compared 8 years of nothing capped by one good year to all of Wilson’s career hes benching him because of financial reasons only I’m trying to figure out if you guys understand why they benched Wilson…

bizarre comparison

The point is that this isn’t the season he’s wildly underperforming, so yes…it is a serious argument. he’s not being benched for his performance this year, as you know they tried to do this in October and he obviously said no way—NFLPA and his agent got them to back off. They did it anyway. Then likely high Sean Payton serves up an insane load of BS by saying he’s benching a healthy Wilson for Stidham because the most important thing is winning games. That franchise is becoming a bigger joke than the two in New Jersey.

He’s having a better season than Mahomes, who has not been benched

Broncos are 6-3 after a 1-5 start.

lol name one job Brissett ever saved. Riverboat Ron would have to be totally delusional to think he's coming back next year no matter what. Daboll is barely treading water. Tommy Cutlets is the only QB on the roster Daboll has assembled who has won more than a single game this year. He had a rough last 2 games. TT is simply awful at this point though.

Shouldn't the play have to have happened IN the UK to be voted as "UK 2023 NFL Play of the Year"?

He could have slipped it right into the other thread, where there are already plenty of dudes cutting Von this slack. but no.....

come on!! how on earth does this deserve another thread when the other one is on page 1??

can I consult the other Miller threads or does the OP expect me to come up with an actual fresh Von Miller take?

Charlotte's best and brightest....

this is pretty wild---force feeding him yet another contract renegotiation all season. he rightly says no, we signed a contract. now they are willing to toss a chance at the playoffs to POSSIBLY save money down the road. Where is the NFLPA? lol

Cook put them in the RZ on that drive, not Fournette. Lenny had 2 carries in the second half (3 yards)--1 in each Q. In the 3rd, he got stuffed on 2nd and goal from the 1. Josh ran it in on the next play. Keep going though...

nah.. 3 yards on a 1st and 10 5 yards on a 2nd and 2 for a 1st down 9 yards on a 1st and 10 0 yards on a 2nd and 1 3 yards on a 1st and 10

he had a 9 yard run. total of 20 yards.

he plays for a team in a market that has zero national base. Herbert is another bum. Also on a zero market team