Mr. WEO

absolutely not. He's a fraud (again). At least in 2019 he was legit--he was their entire Offense. I never understood him as MVP weeks ago as a foregone conclusion. If he wins this year it will be as bad as Rodgers back to back in 2021 (over Kupp). Every part of Josh's game was better than Jackson's. Allen was also arguably more valuable to the Bills than Jackson to the Ravens. In the playoffs, Josh went down swinging, Lamar laid down and got his cazzo handed to him. Jordan Love is a more solid MVP candidate than Jackson.

she can almost spring for a PSL now

It doesn't matter what BB's Defense did in the second half. Quinn's D laid down in the 4th Q with a massive lead. All they needed was a single stop. In this year's Cowboys early exit, The Jordan Loves punched Quinn's Dallas D in the mouth from the start and then just pummeled them in a blowout. Quinn has coached loaded teams. Now he is tasked with building one.

yes I like Davis. that's one in 7 years--they will probably get rid of him, what's your point? Shakir? maybe a 3/4--again he was drafted in McD's 6th year. you keep pointing to these two guys, when WR has been an issue since before and now after Diggs trade. despite this, their "draft strategy" was to keep drafting Defense. This strategy is evidence that they didn't see the value in a highly drafted WR/couldn't assess the value. Having Davis #2 (or Diggs as #1 for that matter) does not preclude them from loading up with more top WR talent. That's just intuitively true. And "the Brady Offense"? Throw a million short dump offs to Kincaid and watch Diggs disappear? Not target Davis at all? What doe that have to with drafting WRs? Imagine if McD was able to find better value in, say AJ Brown than a Tackle (Cody Ford). Look at all the scrub WRs they've brought in as FAs instead of just drafting higher. Were they more evidence of Beane's solid ability to evaluate WRs? If the Brady Offense doesn't need All Pros and Pro Bowlers then why draft a WR in the 1st this year? Ditto if they still have Diggs and Davis? Oh wait, you think Davis was a bad pick as WR2. So for you, in 6 drafts, Shakir is the evidence that Beane is skilled at evaluating WR draft talent. In summary, your position is that Beane is very good at evaluating day 1 WR talent, but he has consistently chosen to ignore it, asserting the team didn't need it.

yeah that's crazy! no way he's one of the premier QB in this league.

clearly

why don't they just bring back Brown and Beasley and draft some D lineman instead?

nah. when your Offense spots you a 28-9 lead in the 4th Q and the D allows 25 points to lose the game....that's on the Defense. 1 stop was all they had to produce.

i admire your confidence. We've seen Quinn HC with a stacked roster---to the SB where his D had a historic meltdown, and then to a 3 season tailspin. All that wasted talent. And now he's going to have a better outcome on a roster with infinite needs and a rookie QB. Fields hasn't built a roster.

Again, bringing a steady stream of short timer FAs and Diggs isn't evidence of ability to evaluate draft WR talent. This conversation (and every other thread discussing the desperate situation of the WR roster would not exist if they had possibly considered spending real draft capital on WR picks. Brown and Beasley were bandaids. Bringing them back a second time was just embarrassing. then that's an ongoing problem...

they don't--the correct system to go through would be a ballot initiative for such an amount. Favre is definitely in the wrong if he knew he wasn't due that money. It seems he was paid for speeches he didn't make. Had he made the speeches, he would be in the clear, no matter where the funds came from. These rednecks need their own country...

with state government, it's not how much your asking to steal...it's what your stealing it for. Personal use is a no no. Use for your personal business to exponentially grow your asset value and therefore personal wealth----how much would you like??!

Yes I covered that. The evaluations of some of those guys was even worse.

What do you base your faith in his ability to do this new job well, given what you know his past? Why was it a good hire, not a bad one?

If only if he had taken welfare money to build a new stadium!! Anyway, it's the height of hypocrisy for the State of Mississippi (the poorest state and one of the 3 least educated) to be going after "welfare money" when the same government spends 14 million a year for just 3 of their public college football coaches.

I don't know him. I'm sure he's a nice man. But yes I think, based on his previous work in a far more advantageous situation, he's a bad hire.

Obviously it was not a good move. Hoping your 4th round pick would become a leading WR2 isn't a great 7 year plan. That's how not good at drafting WR they are. Need more? Proehl, McCloud, Hodgins, Stevenson, Shakir, Shorter. Out of 51 draft picks. Dorsey obviously has nothing to do with this.

no I believe they can't understand the need AND draft for it based on their evaluation of guys who are available. The failure to draft a single WR higher than the 4th round despite the chronic need is simple stark proof of this. So you believe they have been correct in not drafting one "high" because they got Diggs....but now they should draft high despite having Diggs. Because he's in decline? If they are really good at evaluating draft talent, then they aren't very good at evaluating guys they picked over WRs.

Why wouldn't you draft another WR high even with Diggs? That's an odd take. Cinci took Burrow and Higgins in the same draft, despite having Tyler Boyd--and then drafted Chase (#5 overall) one year after Burrow and Higgins (33rd overall). Dallas drafted Lamb (5th overall) despite having Cooper. Miami brought in Hill, even though they drafted a 1000+ WR (Waddle at #6 overall) the year before. SF drafted Aiyuk (in the 1st), despite drafting Samuel the year before and Kittle 2 years before. That's 3 teams that spent high on WR despite having a solid room already. Anyway...2 drafted WR on the roster after 7 drafts?--and both of them in the last 2 drafts. There were 3 drafts before the Diggs trade. WR was a need. They drafted Zay Jones in 2017, then got rid of him 2 years later. The next year they took Josh Allen...and traded up for Edmunds, with Ridley and DJ Moore just below. Still needing a true WR1 (John Brown was a flash in the pan for 2 teams) in 2019, Beane went with Cody Ford AJ Brown and Metcalf there. Can anyone demonstrate that Beane has recognized the need for WR and addressed it significantly in the draft (with picks, not picks given away)the past 7 years? Currently, an aging Diggs ("1st rounder"), Shakir as a #3/4, and a guy drafted straight to the IR.

Goal posts not moved. no obvious talent for evaluating a position of significant need, category WR. If you can't diagnose the problem, you probably are not very good at solving the problem, logic dictates. The roster needed and needs WRs...tell me, if they let Davis walk, how many Beane drafted WRs (all time) are still on the roster? Beane has treated the WR draft as an afterthought, relying instead on an endless stream of FA WRs parading through for short stints in Buffalo on their way out of the league.

he coached for 3 more years--that was the record for those last two years. This guy had all the weapons he will never have in DC....still he flopped.

More money makes you smarter? Explain the Sabres...

Quinn had Ryan, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Austin Hooper, Devonta Freeman....... and still finished 7-9. Twice.

That's not what I'm doing (see below), hope you enjoyed that show. When WR is chronically a position of need and it's not addressed in the draft...it's because the GM is very good at assessing the WR position? He just can't tell when he needs one? How does that make sense. And 2 guys in 7 years isn't much of a track record--especially if the better one is likely gone and the other has 65 targets in 2 years.