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6 hours ago, Special K said:
Bills really re-vamped that D-line.
Gotta love it!!
Adding another talented WR, RB, or OL with their second round pick has to be the plan, right??
With Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Foster and Williams as your top 5, there is no reason to draft a WR high. The OL is set as well...at least for this year. They have quality starters at every position. Of the three positions you posted, RB has to be the biggest need. They don't have a viable option to play alongside or backup Singletary...they should target a Jonathan Taylor in 2nd round or AJ Dillon 3rd round.
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I guess I am insane then beacuse I wouldn't over pay him. He's not the best tackler or athelte in the world. He's a good fit for this defense and I would want to keep but given the other people that are coming up and people we could bring in, I wouldn't over do it. Plus I wouldn't want to have the most expensive safety tandem in the league.
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All this fuss about the playoffs. We are just going to get bounced in the wild card round anyway. Instead of stressing the playoffs so much, we should be stressing be a threat to win it all. What's the point of getting in the playoffs when you don't have a realistic shot. Right now we don't. Our offense cannot score like a playoff team should
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Great Thread!
I think Bruce Smith was the best Bills player of all time. I love some Bruce Smith. But I think Reggie White was better. To get those kinda sacks from the interior, I don't think you'll ever see that happen again. I do think Bruce would have gotten more sacks in a 4-3 but people seem to forget that the Bills almost always went with 4 defensive lineman in their 3rd down defense. It wasn't 3-4 100% of the time. I do think it's close because Bruce was clutch with his sacks but I would give Reggie White #1 defensive lineman of all time.
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I wish Doug Flutie was included on this list. It owuld have been interesting to see if people ranked him above or below Tyrod?
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I like this thread....I'd take Antoine Winfield......I feel that he had better cover skills than both.....He wasn't going to get the picks that the other two would get but he was better lock down defender.....Heck, I might even take an in his prime Thomas Smith over Gilmore and Clements..........I'd take Clements over Gilmore....Gilmore had more bad games.
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Stevie, Woods, Goodwin, Graham and maybe Hogan were our WRs that year. Stevie leads the team with 597 yards and 3 tds that year
That's right!!!! Mixed up evans with Steive......(have no clue how I missed those two up)
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where were you when Goodwin and tj graham were starting against the Jets.
Top 3 will be a combination of Hunter,Goodwin, Powell. But clay and o'leary will get targeted the most
That was one game......and entering the season, the Bills receiver core that year with Lee Evans and crew was strong than this year's. I'm still not certain Goodwin and TJ Graham started that game.....anyways, I hope Watkins and come back soon....and I hope Woods only misses one.
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With Watkins obviously out and Woods likely out, who will start opposite Goodwin? Is it Hunter? And if it is Hunter, who is the #3 receiver?
In all of my years watching the Bills (nearly 30), I have never seen them so weak at receiver.
Goodwin as a #1???
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Why would he leave to become an offensive line coach? Was Buffalo really that bad? Or maybe he had reasonable assurance that he would receive a head coach gig elsewhere. And besides, didnt Shefty report that he would be the most in demand coach this year?
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How about we actually let Sammy Watkins play one down of NFL football before he we debate if he's better than Moulds......
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Toss up between Dareus, Mcghaee and J.P. Losman
I'd go with Mcghaee....I remember being shocked when they drafted him but knew that we were getting a stud. Dareus was like, I knew we were getting him at #3...who didn't. Losman because I didn't know much about him but anytime you draft a QB 1st round you get excited
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Depends on which QB is there. but if the right QB is there ABSOLUTELY. The main thing holding this team back from playoffs is QB play.
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Don't trade Stevie......we all know his bread and butter are slant routes.....we need to get on Hackett to utilize Stevie better......I'd like to see the Bills keep him and Woods and Goodwin as their top 3. and draft one of those stud TE's
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no way in hell....they are still taking the cap hit for him...and he doesn't fit
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Bottom line is that we have lost Levitre and Byrd in consecutive years with no replacements (yet) for either one and no compensation. No matter how you feel about these players or the money they received from their new teams, still really hurts the Bills.
I disagree....its no that simple....in order to keep levitre, we would have had to pay him around what the titans paid him....as good as levitre is, that would have been a mistake. Rather that is true for Byrd remains to be seen. I have said before, if I am given the choice between extending Williams or Byrd, I would have kept Williams ....so we have the right safety........this team just needs a QB....that's the only thing holding this team back.....We haven't had a good QB since Drew Bledsoe's first year here.
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Vick would be an upgrade over anything we have on the roster right now. He has an advantage in EVERY category over every QB on our roster. Faster, stronger arm, read defenses, experience, former probowler, okay maybe not durabliity but.....this team is ready to contend....if we had a qb we would be a playoff team....sign Vick and let him compete......and please people keep something in mind.....Thad lewis played even with ej manuel last year....and coming into the season thad only had 1 or 2 starts....sign Vick and let the best man win....vick is a good locker room guy too...no reason not to sign him....there arent any qb free agent options out there that would be better for the bills
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We resigned the right safety. Williams is younger, cheaper and can still improve and is much more versitlle in that he can play every position on the secondary, let's move on please
Start williams and Leonhard and hope that duke williams shows some flashes to eventually take over for Leonhard.
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Everyone seems to be focused on drafting a big WR when we actually have a good lineup of WR's and the guys that will be available at 9 are no sure things. We have Stevie, Woods and Goodwin. TJ Graham sucks and should be released. Those of you wanting to release Stevie are crazy. He is still our best WR and if we find someone to take pressure off him, I think he still has some great years left.
I think yo go into the season with Stevie, Woods and Goodwin as 1, 2, 3 on your depth chart. If you draft someone high you will displace one of them, when I think they could all have great seasons. I realize none of them have great size but that it seems that is all that people care about when talking about WR's. We drafted for size alone a few years ago and came up with James Hardy, remember that one? Sammy Watkins doesn't have great size but if he is there when the Bills pick (which he won't be) and they take another big WR over him, it would be horrendous.
So how do the Bills solve there big receiving target problem? Draft Eric freaking Ebron. Ebron is 6'4", 250 lb, athletic feak, with 4.5 speed and most importantly, he has shown that it translates on the field. He will likely be there when the Bills pick and it would be nice to see the Bills get with the times and draft an athletic pass catching tight end. Ebron could have a Jimmy Graham or Rob Gronkowski type impact and I think could be a difference maker from day one. Also if teams have to start accounting for Ebron, that will give room for Stevie and Woods to tear up the defense while Goodwin puts the fear of God into them by going deep.
If the Bills pass on Ebron I believe they will regret it. The only way I do not take Ebron is if one of the top 3 QB's, Bridwater, Bortles and Manziel, or Sammy Watkins is still on the board. I highly, highly doubt that will happen. Clowney will obviously be gone. Mack is the only other prospect I would consider over Ebron at that point.
Greg Robinson and Jake Matthews are great prospects and I don't think they would be bad picks at 9, but game changing TE's are much harder to find than offensive lineman and the offensive tackle position isn't as important in the passing game as it was 10-15 years ago, with offenses designed to get the ball out quicker. So I would take Ebron over either of them which is saying a lot, because considering Matthews bloodline and pedigree, he will likely be a HOF NFL tackle.
I think drafting Ebron at 9 would give the Bills a fantastic balance at WR/TE. Stevie, a great route runner, who finds ways to get open and can tear up defenses when he is not the main target as a defender. Woods is also seems to be a very good route runner, with more speed than Stevie and probably better hands. Goodwin who may have the most talent of any of them is obviously a burner who can score any time he touches the ball and can stretch the defense. Add Ebron to that who is a big, strong, fast, athletic TE who will be too fast for linebackers and too big for safeties.
Draft Ebron and address the offensive line in free agency and the 2nd and third rounds. Try to find a big sleeper receiver in the later rounds. Do that and we are doing everything we can to give Manuel a chance. If he can't succeed with that, then we look for a QB next year.
On a side note: I would love the Bills to see if Joe Thomas is available. He has made 7 straight Pro Bowls and arguable the best LT in the NFL. He has been critical of the Browns front office and we are a couple years ahead of the Browns in the rebuild. Maybe if we offer our second round pick we could snag him up. He is 29 but has 4 years left on his contract and will likely play at a Pro Bowl level until he is at least 35.
Even if you had to give up a 3rd or 4th next year I would still do it. Thomas at LT, Wood at C, Glenn at RT, Ubrik at RG, and sign a quality free agent LG. Then you would probably have the best offensive line in the NFL or close to it. An offensive line like that with, Jackson, Spiller, Ebron, Stevie, Woods, and Goodwin as targets... That would show me the Bills are serious and would give Manuel a sick surrounding cast. If they did that I could forgive them for then trading Byrd.
Finally a post that I agree with most. I'd say substitute Graham with Goodwin and then I agree much more. Well said and great idea
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I am glad to see Shannon Sharpe go. Marino surprises me. I'd rather see Boomer go rather than Marino.
Am I the only one who like CBS pre game? It's the only one I watched every Sunday. Fox was way to goofy for me.
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The bills need an elite TE NOT possession wr....Stevie is already here and he will not get cut.......the Bills get zero cap relief by cutting him.....I'd like to see
1st round TE
2nd round OLB
3rd round OG
4th and 5th round OL/TE
6th and7th BPA
With the QB play and scheme the Bills use, an elite TE is more valuable than WR....considering our current assets
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Thad has one career start more than E.J. coming in to this year......when Thad went under center as a starter, he had less starts than e.j.......Thad's play is more or less equal to that of E.J.......E.J. is getting the nod because of his 1st round status and therefore is seen as having a higher upside. They are both young with limited experience and should be given an equal chance to develop and compete........heck even Tuel did okay in his start.........having said all of that, I'd like to see the Bills draft a QB 1st round If the guy they want is there....I don't want any2nd or 3rd rounders......
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MIke Pettine is the Bills MVP.
Why?? All of the Bills players who made pro bowl were on defense. I can't remember the last time a Bills player made the pro bowl out right .....not to mention 3 with a possible 5..........in addition, the 3 that made it were here last year as well......Mike Pettine is a toptier defensive mind and I hope he gets credit
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was just making the point that leo is a guy with high first round talent. people seemed to have forgotten
Wonder if Jerry Hughes is just excited or....Tweet 5m ago
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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After giving up so much for Diggs, why would you come back and draft another WR high in the draft?? Doesn't make sense to me. The Bills run more than most teams in the league and with Diggs added, they will still run more than most teams in the league. Why wouldn't you get someone to compliment Singletary? I like the other posters idea of a TE if a playmaker is available but I would not touch a WR at the top end of the draft unless you get someone with a mid 1st round grade slip to you.