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Even Steve Rattner, ardent supporter of Obama and his former car czar knows that this is nonsense. Everyone in the world of finance knows that Bain Capital was one of the best Private Equity firms in the business. Do you even know what quality Private equity firms do? They invest in either start up or struggling companies. They provide capital infusions, trim fat, streamline products, market them and restructure accordingly. In other words, most of these companies were going to go out of business and with the help of these private equity firms they have a fighting chance at staying alive. Bain Capital is universally recognized as the cream of the crop. They not only created lots of jobs, which is not the focus of any business, but they created wealth for investors which included pension funds. So while only partisans, dimwits and lemmings believe that Bain capital "showed how wonderful bain was to middle class workers whse companies they killed while getting rich and 'improving' the economy" storlyline, lets really think this out for a second. Try taking off your ideological goggles for a second and think about this . Do you really believe that the Salt Lake City Olympic committee would go out and hire out of all people, Gordon Gekko the "vulture capitalist" to help turn around the Olympics that the US was hosting, when it was riddled with debt, inefficiencies and bordering on becoming a national embarrassment? You really believe they would do that?

Because the way they are structured now, there can be more money given through the SUPERPACS on behalf of individuals and corporations then the way it use to be structured. I have no problem with this, Unions dominated campaign financing for years, and all these states that are having to slash budgets can blame the public sector unions and the corrupt politicians who pandered for their money at the expense of childrens education and the local/state taxpayers, and now when the cuts are coming, they have the nerve to blame conservatives for the current layoffs that they themselves brokered. That's like someone lighting a fire on a house and then calling the fire department to put out the fire, only for the fire department to not get there on time, and have the same person who lit the fire come out and criticize the fire department for not getting there on time.

Yet they believe that Romney will be better for the economy. Go figure.

With the SuperPacs, the total amount of money to be spent on behalf of the campaigns, its quite possible that there will be more money spent for Romney than Obama. It will be close, unlike 2008.

Before you embarrass yourself any further, make sure you at least know what you are talking about. http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527contribs.php?cycle=2008 http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php The Unions were by far the largest political contributors in the 2008 election cycle, I support the Super Pacs. I think it was a good decision to have come out of the Supreme Court. Obama spent 740 Million dollars in 2008 and McCain spent 330 Million. Of course they weren't complaining then, now that they see that may lose the money edge, they cry like little bitches. Good, let them cry!

I disagree 100%. You think those rural folks who have names on their shirts and when they go to work and cling to their guns and are use to voting for D's in the general election, who are on the verge of not supporting Obama couldn't be swayed with this line of attack? And say what you will about Karl Rove, he wins elections. Having said that, this isn't coming from Rove, Rove is going after Obama's record.

It evens out the playing field from the corrupt public sector unions. ANd no, it would't be a winner for Obama, if done right and targeted in the right geographical areas.

Being a liberal AND a numbers guy? That would be an oxymoron. No, really .

Romney is playing this beautifully, he is distancing himself from this. However, just like the WAPO assisting Obama with character assasination hit pieces or MSNBC doing bigoted anti mormon segments, I'm sure Romney has no qualms with the SuperPacs shedding more light on this. These sort of ads will work well in certain parts of SOuther Virginia, NC, Ohio, PA and cental and panhandle Florida.

To be honest with you, I hope that the one of the super pacs do explore this a bit further. If Obama is going to recieve help from media outlets such as WAPO, with character assasination hit pieces, that have inconsistencies in the story, then it is fair game to explore Obamas past a bit further . Unlike the McCain campaign, who was too soft and tepid in responding to Obamas attack machine from California, The Romney campaign ever since they have entered into general election phase has been impressive. They have hit back hard on Obamas record, they've been instituting a bracketing strategy, where they follow Obama around on the campaign trail with their surrogates to immediately respond to their claims on the campaign trail. How do you think those photos of all the empty seats in Obamas first campaign speech in Ohio emerged? It was Romneys guys who took those photos and then sent them out. Look how fast they responded to the Hillary ROsen deal, you can see that the fever pitched Faux war on women campaign has tamped down ever since that occured. Don't get me wrong, Obama has basically become a woman over the past couple weeks, with his blatant pandering of that constituency, but hey, that's how they wanna roll. But back to the Jeremiah Wright deal. Obama attended his sermons for over 20 years, all the way up to 2008. I think it's fair to take another look into his past, it's not as if they are digging up his high school record, we are talking about looking into his past all the way up to his presidency. You have to believe that their is influence of some sort there right? I think is fair game, and the Obama machine and media desperately doesn't want anyone exposing more than what has already been released. It's fair game, and in the age of the SuperPacs, they shouldn't be intimidated of being placed on the Presidents enemy list. Axlerod admitted months ago that their strategy was to "kill" Romney's character. You fight Fire with fire, and if they don't like it, well thats too bad. They cast the first stone, and I would fully support seeing the SuperPacs take it to them. I saw that, and as god as my witness, I made the same connection before I heard Krauthammer or anyone else make this point. Hell I even commented on Politico about it this morning making this exact same case.

Dude, you've lost me. Love is good.

Lets see here, my edit was at 5:01 and your post was at 5:05 are you sure you wanna go with that? Where did your post go?

Pretty self-explanatory, I'm sure you are bright enough to figure it out.

Just makes you wonder how they've won 5 out of the last 8 presidential elections and won one of the largest historice "thumpings" in the 2010 midterms with this observation of yours? I suppose they are a monolithic bunch.

Your friend is in the minority, there will be alot more people who voted for Obama that will switch to the GOP than people who voted for McCain switching to Obama.

I'm a 36 year old Latino, Im very socially liberal and fiscally conservative. What was the point of this comment?

I am a political junkie and policy wonk, so I like keeping up with these sort of things. But yeah, it is a bit early, however I do believe it does reflect the success and/or failures of each election campaign and does guage how each campaign is performing so that they can either continue to keep going along with their present strategy or if that they need to change course.

Last three polls show Walker up 5,6 and 9 points, and now the DNC/Obama campaign are abandoning the Walker recall election by not sending in funds for the Barret election efforts. I'd say that this race is slipping away. Prediction Walker wins by 7 points in a landslide.

So out of the last 10 polls released, Romney is up anywhere from 5 to 13 points with independents, with the FOX poll registering with the lowest. So, probably Romney is up somewhere between 7-10 points with independents, and the undecided independents tend to break away from the incumbent, so I'd say Romney is doing much better than what many would of expected this soon after the bruising primaries. Also, new polls that came out yesterday show Romney and Obama tied in Wisconsin (appears Walker recall is really helping ROmney out) and ROmney up 8 in North Carolina. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ N.C is most likely gonna switch back to the GOP unless the economy really improves from here and Wisconsin is the shocker. Even a PPP/Daily Kos poll that was just taken this week shows Romney only down one, and the PPP polls have historically favored Democrats by a to 3-5% average and in some cases much more than that. It appears that Romney can make a real race out of WIsconsin, Bush only lost it by .5% and they did win an overwhelming amount of seats in the 2010 election, and by all accounts, Walker is going to spank Barret. If Romney were to win Wisconsin, his path to victory becomes considerably easier. I also saw a poll released showing Romney down in Michigan by only 5, I don't believe he'll win it, but if he does, then without a doubt Romney becomes the next president, and the surprisngly close distance between the two in the Michigan race probably means that Obama wll have to expend more resources than he wanted to here. I always felt that ROmney would win over he independents, but at one point during the primaries he was losing independents by an average of 5-7%, now he's up an average of 7-10%. That is a remarkable turnaround of 12-15% in just a period of 6 weeks. I suspect this trend will continue, unless the economy markedly improves. My guess is that ROmney will win the independent vote by the time its all said and done by around 10-15%. Another point that I'd like to make, I predicted that Romney would run a much better general election campaign because this would be closer to his natural core. So far that has been the case, they have put the Obama administration on the defensive,they have been punching back, it's been quite impressive. I am very impressed with the campaign that they have been running so far. To be winning the independents by this margin in such a short time period is a sign of the anxiety independents feel about Obama.

Sure why not? Thats what the people of California want, higher taxes.

Google up Bain Capital, and ignore the political sites and blogs. He's a tremendously accomplished man. Everywhere he went, he succeeded.

No you dipshit, first and foremost it helps the company, then the investors. You see in your little tard-filled world, private equity firms are "vulture capitalists", they exist to destroy companies and make middle-aged white guys rich as hell at the expense of poor shleps like yourself. Whereas that couldnt be further from the truth. Private equity firms are created to help companies that are already on the verge of bankrupcy, that are in dire need of cash infusions and also help start up new companies. Mitt Romney was one of the best, he turned around many companies that were on the verge of failing and he helped start up some really successful companies. Some of the companies were in such bad shape they werent able to emerge stronger, in more cases than not they were able to. Only in dumbassville would someone believe that The Salt Lake City Olympic committee would tap Gordon Gekko to turn around the Olympics. Nevermind that they were riddled with inefficiences, scandals and on the verge of it becoming an embarrassment for the US in the eyes of the world. But you go ahead and keep believing that Mitt Romney got subsidies, in the meantime we'll just continue to mock you. Fair enough?

Dude, the steel company got subsidies, not Mitt Romney.

Ok, I'll take DC Tom and New Bills you can have Marcel on your team.