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They could extend him and save $11.7M from the cap. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills#google_vignette

The only way I'd agree to a deal with him is if it was very incentive based. You offer a low guarantee of around $12 M with the possibility of earning $4M if he plays in 15 games and if he plays all 17 games he gets $6M. And then another max potential of $6M per year if he hits certain sack production.

Interesting nugget in what Brett wrote is that he speculates that the 8% share Laurie sold which was $650 Million was used to help finance their "rolling bonus options" to keep all their players. The Bills did just sell a 20% stake which is supposed to net Pegula around $1 Billion, maybe and hopefully they will use some of that to do the same?

For those that are interested in what the future of the salary cap could look like in the next 4-5 years, this is an excellent read.

DT - DJ Jones and Tier Tart - FA acquisitions and use one of your premium draft picks and another mid to late rounder on DT's Release - Daquan Let everyone else walk except Oliver and Carter DJ Jones should come in somewhere around $8M AAV - really good run stuffer who can push the pocket and Tier Tart who will be a lot cheaper DE - No FA acquisitions - Swing for fences for either Garrett or Crosby - Assuming you can't get them - Use one of your three premium picks on a DE Release Von Keep Smoot Safety - Justin Simmons will play the role that they are lacking, will add experience, should be relatively cheap around $5M - Draft another with mid to late rounder CB - FA pickup DJ Reed, or Chavarious Ward - one of those two, based off the coaching additions it appears Bills will be employing more man to man schemes and they would be a fit - They need to get a higher end CB. Draft one with a mid to late rounder Trade Elam for whatever you can get. WR - Either Slayton or Hollywood Brown - someone who has speed and can stretch defenses, it would need to be under $10M AAV - Use one of your premium draft choices on a WR who can separate.

There has to be a renewed sense of urgency to go for it. San Francisco and the Eagles do this far more than any other teams which is why they have had the best and most expensive rosters in the NFL. Eagles have two star tackles, they had a star center, two star WR’s, a franchise QB, A really good TE, top 3 RB, and are loaded with high quality players across the defensive line, Really good DB’s and 2 very good linebackers. They are able to keep those players because of how they manipulate the cap with the voided years. Plus the Salary cap has exploded the last two years and some believe that the curve will even steepen with how they are now going to begin measuring viewership numbers which is what they believe is going to show even more viewers than they are counting them now. When the league goes to renegotiate in 2028/2029 with the networks CBS/FOX or whoever wants to make a bid, the league will have these massive viewership numbers and Netflix who is expected to make a bid. Netflix has a cap of $450 Billion, they can massively outbid CBS and FOX, and one of those two networks is going to lose out. The salary cap is going to go bananas in 2029/2030. I hope Beane pitches Pegula hardcore about getting more aggressive with their decisions. You can resign all the main guys, Benford, Bernard, Rousseau, Cook and Shakir and still go after. Garrett and a DJ Reed. I played around with the numbers https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills#google_vignette They can totally make this happen if there is a will to do it

Trubisky Von Daquan But we will need to substantively replace Von, he was the Bills most valuable efficient pass rusher. DaQuan looks to be about finished, he has rapidly declined over the past year I think they can get Knox to take another pay cut

Netflix is expected to have the Sunday football games over either CBS or FOX for fall of 2028 which would bend the curb even more

It’s higher than what was anticipated. The anticipated amount was $275M. There were some high end estimates as high as $285 but this number is a good increase.

The budget for a WR should be under $8/$9M AAV The defense is where the vast majority of where resources should be allocated.

I hope Beane makes this case to Pegula.

Obviously it's convenient to exclude the two most successful organizations in recent history simply because they have a HOF coach and and to not look back over the past 25 years, specially considering that the league is pretty close to where it is in passing utilization as it was back in 2020. With that said, I decided to look at the list of recent WR's that you listed that you thought was a better example to use. And here is what I found. AJ Brown (twice) Deebo/Aiyuk/Kittle Cooper Kupp Ja'Marr Chase Mike Evans Mike Evans went to the Superbowl during the 2020 season. Mike Evans signed an $82.5 million contract extension in 2018. That is an an AAV of $16.5M. The salary cap for the 2020 season was $198.2 million Which Equals 8.3% of the total cap towards their star WR Deebo Samuels in the 2020 Superbowl which was for the 2019 Season was on the roster and Aiyuk was not. Deebo Samuels was on his rookie contract on a 4 year $7.25 million contract which is an AAV of $1.812 Million contract. The Salary cap was $188.2 Million for this season meaning that it equaled about 1% towards the cap for him. Deebo Samuels for the 2024 Superbowl which was the 2023 season was on the roster and Aiyuk was still on his rookie contract. Deebo Samuels signed a contract extension of a 3 year $71,550,000 deal which is an AAV of $23,850,000, the salary cap in 2023 was $224.8 Million meaning that it equaled about 10.6% towards the cap. Cooper Kupp The Rams went to the Superbowl in 2022 off of the 2021 season. Cooper Kupp signed a 3 year extension in 2020 for 3 years $47,250,000 that applied towards this season. That's an AAV of $15,750,000, the salary cap for the season (COVID year so it had gone down) was $182,500,000 which equaled 8.6% of the cap Jamar Chase Made the Superbowl in 2022 off of the 2021 season. Jamar Chase was on his rookie contract which was a 4 year $30,819,000 contract which is an AAV of $7.7Million and the salary cap that year was $182,250,000 which equaled 3.9% of the cap AJ Brown Made the Superbowl in 2023 off of the 2022 season. AJ Brown signed a 4 year $100 Million contract extension with an AAV of $25 Million - The salary cap in the 2022 season was $208.2 Million which equaled 12% of the cap And for the 2024 Super bowl season this past year his latest extension is 3 year $96,200,000 which is an AAV of $32 Million. The salary cap this year is $255.4 Million which equaled 12.54% of the cap The only true outlier are the AJ Brown contracts. What is it that the Eagles are doing differently that allows them to spend so much on offense? 1) The Eagles lead the league by an incredibly huge margin that applies voided years money. They currently have $390.4 Million in voided years. The 2nd place team is San Francisco with $204 Million. Buffalo which is right around where the league average at 16th place in Voided years has $33.1 Million. 10 teams have less than $10 Million. This means that the teams that employ this are willing to extend cap hits over a larger number of years. Simply put, teams that use this are having much larger cash expenditures throughout the lifetime of these contracts. Jeffery Laurie is willing to pay a lot more money from a cash perspective to field his team. The team that does this the second most is the San Francisco 49ers. It's not coincidence that the only two outliers up above are the teams that are willing to pay the most to retain their star players. 2) Drafting success - A) 2021 Draft -1st pick DeVonta Smith STARTER, 2nd round pick Landon Dickerson STARTER, Milton Williams 3rd round pick DT Impact player one of the stars of the Super Bowl STARTER- B) 2022 Draft - 1st pick Jordan Davis STARTER, Cam Jurgens STARTER, Nakobe Dean STARTER C) 2023 Draft - 1st pick Jalen Carter (Top 3 DT in the NFL), Nolan Smith STARTER D) 2024 Draft - Quinyon Mitchell IMPACT starter, Cooper Dejean Impact starter You said Sure. Lets get the owner to go ahead and increase his voided year usage by 1200% and pay out significantly more going forward to retain all your star players and get some in FA. I'm for it, sounds easy. And yes, lets make sure that we can draft pro bowlers every year and get some immediate pro bowl caliber level of play from rookies from our draft choices and pick up ALL PRO's along the way. Sounds good. Now that I think about it, every team should just go ahead and draft this well and spend this much money lol. Of course this is the extreme outlier, most teams are not willing to pay that much real money to keep and collect talent and don't have this incredible recent success through the draft. This is not the realistic takeaway of roster construction. Each team is different in how much their owners are willing to spend, how they construct their teams, where they are up against the salary cap, schemes and player personnel strengths/deficiencies. When you look at Superbowl champions the two biggest takeaways are: 1) It is almost a must to have a top tier QB. In over 90% of the Super Bowl winners over the past 25 years they had one. 2) It is almost a must to have a top 8 defense. Out of the past 25 Super Bowl winners, in over 85% of the winners, they had one. The Eagles did not win the Super Bowl because of their offense, they won it because of their defense. Any of the playoff teams could have played the Chiefs with their offense and would have won that game with the performance the Eagles had. The point of the thread was primarily two fold. 1) Are Wide receivers and their ascending contract values overinflated? We know 100% that the rate of inflation for WR pay has dramatically increased to the salary cap, that is a fact, not an opinion. 2) And for most teams, more specifically the Bills, does it make sense to go into FA and pay these overinflated rates? Considering that the NFL is trending towards running more and passing for nearly 10% less than just 4 years ago and that top defenses and having an elite or near QB are necessities, and that the Bills barely have an average defense, the conclusion for me is that YES, WR pay is without doubt overinflated and NO, it does not make sense for most teams, specially the Bills to chase after a WR via FA to the tune of over 10% of the Salary cap.

So you want to exclude what the two most recent and successful dynasties have done? 10 out of the last 25 years, you just want that to just disappear and not count towards this argument? Well, that's awfully convenient, and no I won't do that. I listed the last 25 Superbowl winners, and the vast majority of those teams did not have elite boundary WR's. Most had good, competent ones but not elite top 8 caliber players at that position. You would be hard pressed to find many people that would tell you that the problem with the Bills this past season or in the playoffs or even specifically the Chiefs game and say that one of the top 3 problems with the Bills was the offense. - Coaching defensive scheme - Defensive line not getting enough pressure - DB's getting thrashed Those were the main culprits, not the Bills only being able to generate 29 points against the Chiefs. Which happened to be the 2nd most they had given up against anyone up until that point. 2nd to the Bills I might add. The Bills scored 29 points against the Chiefs and that is with 2 missed 2 point conversions, meaning they would have had 31. You want to go ahead and blame Kincaid for dropping that pass? Fair, he should have caught it but as a whole the offense was not the problem that game. The crux of this thread is not to diminish the role of the WR, it is to say that the current valuations for WR's are overinflated, I don't see how any logical thinking person can think differently. As a group, they are overpaid relative to their peers and it's indisputable that it is not necessary to go into FA and pay top tier dollars to grab one. The only team in the past 25 years to have had a WR account for 10%+ or more of their salary cap has been the Eagles, no other team has come close. Usually the top tier WR's have either been on their Rookie contract or were reclamation projects such as Keyshawn Johnson was for the Bucs, Brandin Cooks with the Patriots or Odell with the Rams. When you consider the top needs of this team, which is a deep ball safety, a CB opposite of Benford, an IDL, DE and Boundary WR, and you consider how efficient the offense was and how porous the defense this past year specially on third downs and against the Chiefs, and then you look at your Salary cap resources that are left, it's from my perspective borderline insane to think "Let's spend $25 - $30M a year on a WR" when you have all these other bigger glaring holes. I want to address the boundary WR position, but not spending gobs of money in FA. I think the Bills should go into FA, get a Hollywood Brown or Darius Slayton player and then use one of their premium draft picks and hope to hit on it. That's a good investment at that position. The majority of the money should go to CB, DE, IDL. Those are the bigger needs.

I can't help what others say, I can only speak for myself. I have hope that Kincaid will be a really good TE. Plus the Bills have a very good offensive line, elite QB, upper end slot guy. It's clear that the offense hasn't been a problem, it's the defense.

When Jaire is healthy, he's as good as it gets in man to man coverage. An absolute dawg! With that said, he's a bit of a basket case, has demonstrated behavior detrimental to the team and he has been injured a lot. So there definitely would be a buyer beware tag pinned all over him. Jonathan Allen, would love that guy but they have so much room and defense is a need, I just don't see them parting ways with him.

You're not understanding the argument. Most of those receivers were not elite/blue chip guys and most of the top receivers for each of those teams were on their rookie year contract or were not seen as upper end #1's that were acquired via FA. I'm not arguing that some of those that were solid WR's (not the elite ones) wouldn't fetch $20 - $25M a year in today's market, they would and in most cases it would be a mistake to pay that. Keyshawn, Colston, Alshon Jeffery, Brandin Cooks, Plaxico Burris, Deion Branch, JuJu, Gordon, Baldwin, Jacoby Jones, Hines Ward and Qadry Ismail, these were the receivers I didn't consider to be elite WR's. If those guys in became available for $20 - $25M, the only ones I would have considered out of that group would have been Jeffery, Burris, Ward and Cook and not at $25M but much closer to $20M. Also, this crazed WR inflation that we are seeing today hasn't been a persistent ongoing phenomena but a recent one, hence the topic. Valuations for WR's weren't out of wack back then, it's not until just over the past few years that nearly half the league has a WR at around 10%+ of their salary cap to a singular player at this position. Every team has their formula and how they want to construct their team, but you'd be hard pressed to find one outside of Philadelphia this past year that spent 10% of their cap on one. I'd bet that if you looked at their top WR contract and what they were paid relative to the team's salary cap that on average the top WR was paid much closer to 6% which would be about half of what it would take today to acquire one via FA. And, who is debating Shakir for $20M? You're creating these imaginary phantoms and wanting to argue about them.

Tee Higgins will get $30M. And to retain a playmaker like Cook, I'd be very ok with paying that. I would suspect that he will get more snaps next season.

I did a little exercise of the past 25 Super bowl winners and who their WR's were. 2000 - St Louis Rams had Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt - definitely top shelf receivers 2001 - Ravens - Qadry Ismail, Travis Taylor, Pat Johnson - No true #1 2002 - New England - Deion Branch, David Givens, Christian Fauria - No true #1 2003 - Tampa Bay - KeyShawn and Keenan McCardell - Keyshawn barely had 1000 yards and McCardell had 600 yards. I wouldn't consider them true blue chip #1's at this time 2004 - Patriots - Deion Branch, Givens and Patten - No true #1 2005 - New England - Branch, Givens and Troy Brown - No true #1 2006 - Pittsburgh - Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes - Ward had 69 receptions for 975 yards - highly competent but not blue chip #1 2007 - Indianapolis - Reggie Wayne and ANthony Gonzalez - Reggie Wayne definitely a blue chip #1 2008 - Giants - Plaxico Burris, Amani Toomer - Plaxico had 70 catches on 141 targets for 1025 yards and 12 TD's. He was a #1 but not a blue chip #1 WR 2009 - Pittsburgh - Santonio Holmes and Hines Ward - both very competent receivers and Ward a good possession reliable receiver but not a blue chip #1 2010 - Saints - Marques Colston and Devery Henderson - Marques I'd say was a low end blue chip #1 - He had a little over 1000 yards receiving that year 2011 - Green Bay - Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson and Donald Driver - Greg Jennings was a blue chip #1 2012 - Giants - Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks - Victor Cruz had a phenomenal year and played like a blue chip #1 but fell off a cliff and played only 5 years in the league. 2013 - Ravens - Marlon Brown, Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith - No Blue chippers 2014 - Seattle - Doug Baldwin and Percy Harvin - None were blue chippers 2015 - New England - Edelman and Lafell - Edelman was an elite slot receiver but there were no blue chip boundary WR's 2016 - Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders - they were an elite tandem 2017 - New England - Brandin Cooks, Amendola and Chris Hogan - Cooks was a #1 but never elite, he had 65 receptions and 1082 yards for the year 2018 - Eagles - Alshon Jeffery, Tate, Agholor and Jordan Matthews - No elite WR's, Alshon had an elite level year once but that was with the Chicago, he had 789 receiving yards for the Eagles when they won the Super bowl 2019 - Patriots - Edelman and Gordon - No elite blue chip WR's aside from Edelman from the slot. Gordon had 40 catches for 720 yards for the year with the Patriots 2020 - Kansas City - They had Tyreek - Elite 2021 - Tampa Bay - had Mike Evans - Elite 2022 - Rams - Cooper Kupp, Beckham and Van Jefferson - Kupp was elite 2023 - Chiefs - Juju Smith- Marquez Valdes Scantling, Kadarius Toney - No elite blue chip boundary WR's 2024 - Chiefs - Toney, Rashee, Marquez Valdes, Hardman - No elite WR's 2025 - Philadelphia - AJ Brown and Devonta - Elite A few observations: - More teams than not did not have an elite boundary WR out of the past 25 Super bowl winners. - Most teams had anywhere from very good to elite defenses - Most receivers that were their #1's were on their rookie contract (even if they weren't an elite WR) - Very few FA WR's became their teams #1 and if they did they were more reclamation sort of projects than acquiring 1st in class sort of acquisitions. There are various ways to having successful roster constructions to compete and win in the Superbowl. If history is leaving any clues with these past 25 years, that on aggregate: - Not chasing after top end blue chip WR's in FA - Have an elite QB increases is a key ingredient to winning a Superbowl - Drafting competent WR's and if you are fortunate enough to select one through the draft, hope that you can win it on their rookie contract - Having a really good defense is almost a necessary requirement in the vast majority of the cases (Only the 2000 Rams, 2007 Colts which did feature good pass rushers, 2020 Chiefs) Well over 80% of the past Superbowl winners had very good to dominant defenses. Except top WR's can't be had in FA for $20 - $25M a year. You can make a play for a competent boundary WR for around that much but not an ascending one. This past off season Gabe Davis signed for $13M a year and Saquon for $12M. That is the going rate and anyone who believes that the going rates that a middling #2/#3 WR should be the same as one of the elite 3 RB's is deluding themselves. Cook, if he signs with the Bills will most likely get around the $12M a year range. I'm good with that, for me as a rule of thumb you try to do everything you can that is within reason to keep your playmakers.

The argument isn’t that you can’t win a Super Bowl with one but that you can win without one.

I think its a bit fatalistic to believe that Josh only has 5 years left. Yes, it is definitely within the realm but I think as long as he takes care of his body and doesn't face any devastating injuries he should have another 8 - 12 years of highly efficient QB play. I do agree from a physical standpoint meaning his running ability and quickness will most likely peak in the next 2-3 years, but as long as his mental processing improves he should be able to have a lot more good years provided his body holds up. With that said, I do agree with the central crux of your post which is that there should be a more intense profound sense of urgency from this team and that should be reflected in their FA/draft decisions. Personally, and I don't think I'm alone with this thinking that for me it was always assumed since 2020 that the question of the Bills winning a Super bowl was not a matter of "if" but "when". But we've now gone through 5 straight years of knocking on the doorstep without getting in and Josh is going to be turning 30 after this next season. I don't have any evidence to back this up but I also have this profound sense that Beane/McD and inside the organization are beginning to feel that pressure as well. Honestly, I think they should begin to start moving their chips into the middle and start making those decisions. It would be a tragedy if this organization doesn't win with a true Unicorn in Allen at the helm.

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make. No QB has ever won that came from Wyoming? I think what you are saying is that because the Chiefs and Patriots didn't have blue chip WR's that this also applies to the QB position? There is a huge discrepancy in the value of a WR and QB and what they mean to their teams success. And it's not a faulty comparison as you stated in fact it's entirely true. Even if you want to pretend that the Patriots won with Randy Moss, that would have been 9 out of 11 wins would have been without a blue chip WR. It's clear, you don't need a blue chip WR to compete and win a Super bowl. This isn't an opinion out of right field, it's a certifiable undeniable fact. Patriots won many Super bowls without one, and the Chiefs made a conscience decision to not extend the most dynamic receiver in the league after winning a Super bowl with him on the roster and went on to win 2 more Super bowls and went to a third one without him or replacing him with a #1 WR. Again, this isn't an argument to say that WR's aren't important, it's an argument to say that you can have a collection of highly competent receivers that fill different roles that fit the scheme of their offense and still have tremendous success. The two most recent dynasties when creating their roster construction made conscience decisions to not go after expensive blue chip WR's in FA and in the Chiefs case to even let a top 2 WR at that time just walk. I think WR's as a whole are overvalued, by a lot. My preference if I were a GM would be to take more of a moneyball approach to the WR position. Get a bunch of guys that are good at filling certain roles, spend money on the O line and defense, protect the QB, have a good ground attack and have your all world QB make the right reads and plays.

I hope not but it's that FOMO factor. If he leaves then there has to be someone or a couple receivers that can replace that production and efficiency. He's highly efficient, never drops passes, has play making ability when he gets the ball in his hands, is a decent route runner and Josh trusts him. I don't believe he's worth $20M a year not because of how I view him as a player but because I don't believe receivers in general are worth that unless they truly are elite who can play efficiently from the boundary as well. It's tough, when you have players you drafted and its time for their 2nd contract specially at the WR spot. The Chiefs letting go of Tyreek must have been an extremely difficult decision for them. He wanted to get paid 13% of their cap, the Chiefs made the calculation that by doing this that it would fit into their plans into how they wanted to construct their roster and it paid off it in a huge way for them. Again, the two most recent dynasties in 9 out of their last 10 Super bowl winning years didn't have a true blue chip #1 WR. I don't care what anyone has to say, that speaks volumes.

I want to start off by saying that it is impossible to gather a few data points and expect them to be dispositive. With that said, some of this data does strong enforce probability trends. I do believe Wide receivers are important, I think they are the third maybe possibly the 4th most important position grouping. I sense that you believe they are the 2nd and current NFL salaries suggest the same. I think it's very important to have at least one boundary receiver who can get some separation and beat defenders 1 v 1 down the field. It's pretty clear to me that players like McDuffie who are fantastic in coverage are vulnerable when they have to defend players on go routes. This was evidenced with Mack Hollins getting the best of him and AJ Brown who beat him 2-3 times on these patterns. We saw how important it was when the Bills defeated the Chiefs earlier in the season where Amari had two high leverage third down plays where he beat his guy to extend the drives on these routes. So there is no disagreement in terms of how I view having a guy who can win on high leverage 1 v 1 opportunities. Where we may also differ is not if WR's are important but how much should they be valued? I don't believe that for most teams specially the Bills that spending over 10% of your cap on a receiver is a recipe for success and I laid out a number of reasons in my post. Of course a team like Philadelphia is the exception, but lets be real, any of the playoff teams offense would have won that game against the Chiefs because of that dominant defense and of course you have an owner like Jeffrey Lurie who is willing to pay out exorbitant real cash dollars to his team in order to succeed. He is paying over 1000% more on Voided contract years than the means, meaning that his cash expenditures going forward will be higher than any other teams. Of course it is very helpful that they have had tremendous drafts on the defensive side of the ball over the past 3 years. Referencing your above point, yes I do believe having lots of players on rookie deals is very important for NFL contending teams. Nowhere do I even come close to implying that QB's aren't important. You seem to be misunderstanding what I am saying. The point that I am making is that teams that can run the ball effectively is a big ingredient for many of the successful teams. It's not needed for every single team, every team is unique and it isn't fully dispositive but again, these data points are suggestive of probability trends. So yes, having a really good running game is very helpful to teams that want to succeed in the league. Combine that with a good QB and look out! One of the biggest factors for above means player personnel inflation is (FOMO). Many teams view WR's as essential to their overall success and when they have those players moving into their 2nd contracts, they fear that if they don't meet their agents demands that he'll go on to another team. It's a very valid and powerful fear and it also drives up prices. I value WR's and the role they play, I just don't value them to the tune of 10% of a team's salary cap. It's very clear that the two most recent dynasties Chiefs and Patriots that a competent receiving corps won 9 out of the 10 Superbowls they have without a blue chip boundary WR. Meaning that a QB that can throw to a number of competent weapons can more than get the job done. I would prefer more of the moneyball approach, and specifically for the Bills they have good TE's (I expect Kincaid to improve) and they have a really good slot guy in Shakir, that they should look to get a separation/speed specialist to play the boundary role that they would be missing if Amari doesn't return. And I think you can get someone like that at a considerably smaller contract than getting that stud on the boundary, unless one were to be able to be obtained via draft, in which I'd be all for that. I'm not missing that at all, you are believing things that I'm not saying. Barkley's play absolutely opened up things for their passing game and same with Henry against the Bills. Those two teams would not have had as many wins as they did if it weren't for those two guys. You are just flat out wrong. Yeah, I think LT and RT's are extremely important, I rate them as either the 3rd or 4th most important position grouping. Being able to neutralize the opposing teams top rusher without having to receive double teams allows other players to be freed up, protects your most valuable asset from giving up sacks and can provide good pockets to throw the ball providing mental security. Look at how flustered Mahomes was, he was starting to see ghosts himself. Either way, I view Tackles as extremely important and the way this Bills team is constructed, I'm good with the Bills spending $35M a year between their two tackles. Jamar Chase is great. Maybe the best and he's a true difference maker. But I'd hardly point to the Bengals as a team in terms of roster construction as a model of success and they haven't even had to pay their 2nd contracts yet for Higgins and Chase. The Bills WR's make up 28% of their overall yardage and I saw you say that was because they had to because the WR's couldn't get open or something along those lines. Even if that were true, which I don't believe it to be but lets just say it were true, does it really matter? The Bills scored 3 points per drive which was the tops in the NFL and the best in the past 20 years meaning they were highly efficient on offense. They had the least combination of sacks/int's in the past 20 years. Buffalo's offense leads the league in points per drive averaging just over a field goal per possession (3.01 pts/drive) and they rank first in drive score percentage with almost 52 percent of their drives resulting in a touchdown or a field goal (51.7%). Bottom line is that the offense more than thrived this year, just because they didn't have as many explosive flashy plays in no way diminishes how effective their offense was this past year. So you can try to make that point but it's an impotent one.

He had a number of good snaps with the Ravens, he can still provide good coverage on a number of receivers and you can see that his technique and physicality against them is still there. The problem is when he goes up against burners that he doesn’t have the juice specially when they make cuts to be able to keep up against them. I don’t know if he would be willing to sign on a vet minimum deal but personally I’d rather go with building this team through draft and udf contracts along with your impact players.

It’s not happening