dwight in philly

i know this is a rather specific topic, but in addition to the skins game being televised sunday, just learned that the jet game the following week will be on in the philly area as well.

still unable to shake the bitterness of the toronto money grab, i see the bills showing up and getting the job done, 31-13. glad it is a beat up skins team that they play in toronto though.

yea, i am pi$$ed that ny state taxpayers had to help fund citifield for the mets, you aware of that?? i dont give a sh-t about the ny mets!....On April 6, 2006, the Mets presented plans for their new, open-air ballpark to be built in the parking lot next to Shea Stadium. Several features, including a rotunda at the entrance, evoke memories of Ebbets Field. This was the intention of Mets owner Fred Wilpon, who was raised in Brooklyn when the Dodgers played there. The park features irregular outfield fences, elaborate steel bridgework and a cantilevered deck in right field. The total project costs are estimated at $600 million. The approximately $444.4 million ballpark will be financed by tax-exempt and taxable bonds to be issued by the city's Industrial Development Agency. The city will contribute approximately $85 million in fiscal 2006 capital budget funds for necessary infrastructure improvements and an additional $4.7 million in capital reserve for the new stadium. The state's Empire State Development Corporation will contribute $70 million for the construction of the infrastructure improvements and $4.7 million in capital reserve for the stadium from bond proceeds. The total infrastructure improvement costs are estimated at $177.2 million. The Mets will be responsible for the construction of the ballpark and related infrastructure improvements. A report by the Independent Budget Office, which was released on April 20, 2006, claimed that the ballpark would cost the city of New York approximately $177 million over forty years, and the state about $89 million during the same time. It also stated that the Mets would save close to $298 million from the use of tax-exempt bonds. ......so.. my point, WE ARE OWED!!!!

all i know is that people can carp all they want about "taxpayer dollars", but to me, i want my "taxpayer dollars" used to solidify the bills future in buffalo. if one thinks the 80 million will be "wasted" "corporate welfare" whatever, i say forget about it! the tired argument about money to fix roads, education etc, doesnt matter. the politicians pi$$ away the money anyway, why not use some of it on a tangible project like a stadium upgrade? i say do it!

again, i am totally on board with the idea, to me, it is a no-brainer. in the event it becomes cost prohibitive to add a facade, or the like, i hope, they sink the money into whatever upgrades are necessary. i know there is a thought process of building a new stadium downtown, but to me, that would take away from the tailgating experience that is unique to the ralph. the satellite lots could not be duplicated , the somewhat rural, college-like environment, just all adds to the mix. i say, just enhance it all.

i am the one that mentioned lambeau and the ralph possibly sharing the same aura. i concede that lambeau is a mecca, no doubt, my point was that was that we(bills fans) should emulate what the fine folks in green bay did. just build on the tradition that we have, which is considerable.

please!, why the negativity?, i am a BUFFALO BILLS fan, not a packers fan. the essence of this thread is about a fair comparison of football venues.

that is kinda of clever..

huh??? not really metzelaars, i just feel the ralph is worth keeping and nary a thought given to any political agenda, surprisingly!i wish the bills could be publicly owned, i really dont give a sh-t about politics as far as the bills are concerned.

why the need to keep the wind and snow out! it is part of the "deal" in playing in buffalo! they do not complain in green bay about it, why should we??? in addition, just go to that sh-tty stadium in toronto once a year if you have to stay "out of the elements"! quite frankly, IT DOES!, not to the extent of the point you are trying to make, but i think it does in its own way.

huh???, i am referring to the historical significance of the stadium!, not the won-lost record or amount of actual championships won. the packers won at dallas, at ny in the sixties to capture the championship, if you want to nitpick , in addition to winning at lambeau in the ice bowl. my point is that lambeau is revered beyond belief .

i have thought the same thing for quite sometime now. the ralph , scene of the "THE GREATEST COMBACK", where O J ran, the 4 in a row super bowl teams of the 90's played, does have some history. lambeau, scene of the "ICE BOWL" has its legacy for sure, but not so sure how much it has on the ralph in terms of historical significance. the packers of the lombardi era are romanticed, but to me, not that much different than the bills, championships aside. i say do it!

i assume martin is on the squad for his special teams work, is he any good on them??, just curious.

i think you nailed it pretty good, but TO nitpick, i would give them a B, not a B+, just based on the fact the D could not make the stop , late, in the two losses. i think it rests on edwards, as you rightfully pointed out.

getting back to the raiders, i will keep an eye on their game with K C. i am seeing that palmer may start, could be interesting, hope K C comes to play.

well, oakland has only miami left to play out of our division,so rooting against the raiders is a given for sure and i do think their remaining schedule is weak, so you have to hope palmer goes flat.

i agree, i do think san diego could be our competition for a wild card, your point about the jets is valid, just want them out and we get our shot at the chargers.. tough call , though

this is an interesting topic, i enjoy watching games during the bye week as how it affects the bills. in the game you mentioned, not sure who to root for, but i think rooting for the titans would be the way to go. we play them and assume we win that game, but then again, not sure , do we want to concede the division to houston? i think rooting for san diego against the jets is an obvious choice though.

i feel uncomfortable when the word sack(s) is used in the same sentence with a 90 yr old something man.

i think they did also, but in the event they win the superbowl this year, then its worth it. i like "not mortgaging the future" as much as the next guy, but if you can win now, i am all in. in buffalo, we are all too familiar with "building for the future", sometimes i think its nice to win now!

i can see it play out that way, but if there is a chance of a different outcome regarding who we beat, and lose to, i see maybe beating dallas, but possibly losing to tennessee at home. but in my scenerio, i see us beating dallas and tennessee. 11-5..

happy birthday, thanks for keeping the bills in buffalo, making you an iconic figure in WNY. ok, now please, put a succession plan for the bills to stay here! only fair, we have supported you, you have realized a nice return on the investment..

i like the idea of acquiring a pass rusher myself. sure it is easy to say the bills arent going to make any moves, they probably wont, but i was thinking the same thing today. a guy like allen would be a great addition because the team itself is not as far away as some think.

wow!, that is news i thrive on! thanks for a nice vibe on the eve of a bills game!

well said! i have said repeatedly that he should be taken off, if for nothing else, his mocking of hockey. buffalo is as strong a market as there is in the NHL.why then, should buffalo sports enthusiasts be subjected to him,on THE SABRES STATION!. for crissakes. his insulting the bills, talking about the NBA(which no one cares about)should seal it.