dwight in philly

i was thinking the same thing while glancing at the list. curtis martin?, hardly, cortez kennedy? decent, but not HOF material,same with doleman, strikes me as average. i think biscuit should go in if doleman does.

"the guy in philly" was born in buffalo,lived my first 55 years there, attended my first game in 1960, so i do have a bit of history regarding the bills and feel i am more than credible in offering an opinion, just like anyone else on here. not living in buffalo is a moot point in this discussion.

if he has, why the secrecy?, if he hasnt, then he is a pri-k, just as i maintain..

im not angry, just not into the "ralph worship", why he didnt leave?? easy, because he had the community by the balls and knew it. he made lots of money obviously in wny, so....you believe he stayed out of some un- dieing love he had for buffalo? i think it was easier for him to play the public against the politcos and stay here than to pick up stakes and head for , LA??? when would he have done that? while the rams were there , the raiders??, where would the team play.. that is a croc..

there was a plan in place to build a stadium either in downtown or in the suburbs. by then, a dome was out. the buffalo news favored a suburban location because the original plan was for the stadium to be built right around the news bldg, the "crossroads" site. the courier express favored the city site. the news won out, but wilson was on record as wanting the suburban site. not much corruption, other than usual buffalo politics. the lancaster domed stadium was mired in poltical corruption, it was unrelated to the actual "ralph" being built.

why didnt he just leave then?.."commited to buffalo"??? that is such bullsh-t.. we , as a community having been taking it up the a$$ for this guy.. he didnt leave because he preyed upon our inferiority complex! used us like a bunch of fools..

i remember back when wilson had to have more seats in war memorial stadium, he strong armed the buffalo common council resulting in 7,200 seats. the threat was there. around 69-70, he is going to move to seattle unless he gets a new stadium resulting in the county building him the "ralph". there was a huge groundswell to build the stadium in buffalo, but wilson insisted on the suburbs. i am quite sure it was because the parking would be all his. he has done a great job of making the loyal fans beholden to him, for this, i dislike him, AND, the lack of not allowing a succession plan to be put into place just further pisses me off.

well, just being a "victim" of living with the inferiority complex lots have due to living or being from "buffalo" has made him a fortune! i do not begrudge him for playing on those emotions, but it sure doesnt make me like him, sure he has not moved the team, i wonder why?

a stopped clock is right twice a day. giving the hall of fame a gift is nice, i suppose, but having a succession plan in place to keep the team in buffalo is much more of a priority. all the ass-kissing on here for ralph amazes me. he has made a fortune in western new york and his constant threats of moving the team since the 60's makes me not really like the man. if owning the team in "small market" buffalo was, and is, so bad, why doesnt he just sell?

i could not agree more with you. i cannot believe that there is not one single member of the media that will challenge him, brandon, the organization to provide some insight into the team's future. all this nonsense of "respecting mr wilson" why? he has made a fortune as a result of the western new york community and to just let us sit on the sidelines and await any info makes all of us look foolish! i realize we are not NYC, chicago, but we deserve a response as to the long term future of the team, succession plan..

i disagree, not every owner is like ralph wilson..

i agree, no way does that city again, lose its franchise. i think it is a simply a guy who wants to sell and have hopefully, provisions in the deal assuring the team cannot move. i know anything can happen, but if the NFL does not look upon tradition over money grabs and "the L A market" the league will eventually implode. the game is slowly turning into just another form of pop culture instead of the traditional game.

i always liked his dedication to the area, glad to hear it.

no prob nucci! but did forget about rob johnson having that ring, did chuckle and realize one must be on their game !

ok, i get it! very sorry for bringing this up

why so cranky?? was just throwing an idea out there, sorry if i did not "fact check" it first.

i think they would laugh it off.

i agree, never hurts to have a guy with SB ring in the room.

regarding working for the sabres, you must have at least 15 years of unsuccessful accomplishments.

i wonder if the bills are considering him?nice red zone size, i think they should take a chance, give a look..

i do not recall it happening on best street. it might have, but i was about 15 at the time and thought he was walking up delaware, could be wrong, but regardless, he was attacked after missing the field goal.. true story.

absolutely..could not agree more! negotiations are negotiations, but the bottom line is WNY, the county, state, etc, are negogiating from a position of weakness, right or wrong, i sure hope they get it done and let the loudmouths have their say after the deal is done. i realize its taxpayers money, but my reality is that the bills need to stay whatever the ramnifications, tax dollars spent be damned, they waste enough as it is, let me have the bills.

i think it just boils down to whether one wants the bills to stay. i have said many times on various other posts that who in their right mind thinks it is right to subsidize millionaire NFL owners? in theory it is ludicrous, but the reality is it has to be done in the bills and WNY 's case. i think seeing a tangible return on tax dollars i e: stadium improvements is a no brainer. again, people can piss and moan about needing bridges, roads, all the happy horsesh-t you hear when the this comes up, but i think erie county and NY state are already grabbing their ankles because they all know it is politically expediant to keep the bills here. and i totally agree with the premise.

i am 60, but feel like 90 some days..

yea!, if you sat up in the "new" section, you had to look thru a forest of poles when gazing at the game.