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Yeah, I'm pretty much endlessly optimistic, but other than I'm not as down on Allen or Clay as others, there's not much good to take away from this game. Running game looked good. Tremaine Edmunds looked like he made some progress in his reads. Levi Wallace had a few great special teams plays. Barring something miraculous, it's hard to see a good start. However, until the games mean something, who really knows?

Probably O'Leary. The Clay hatred today seems a bit over-the-top to me.

And rushing, for all that's worth.

Never mind my Adam Redmond post. Sigh...

Well, that would be ridiculous for a 5th round draft pick who has looked good in camp and the games from all we've heard. Hopefully you're not really "the final word"

Honestly, it didn't seem clear to me at all. That O-Line play was brutal. However, even having said that, I'd rather he win the job outright, and whether he ever had a chance today or not, he' probably shouldn't start.

Goal line stand! Woo hoo! Sigh....

Probably not, and likely he's not ready either, but it would have been cool to see him try with the first team.

Oh geez. Because people are saying maybe not discounting a rookie QB because of a pre-season game where the o-line played about as poorly as possible? It's not saying a team can do no wrong. FWIW, I howled with frustration after the Allen pick, but until today he's looked like a leader who deserved a chance to start from Day 1, and frankly I just didn't see anything to evaluate either way (it's hard to tell whether he was hesitant b/c he had no one to throw to or because he was not reading the defense well. Right now, I'm not overly confident about any QB as a starter and only real hope is that they had a bad day and somehow adjust for the season. I'm generally pretty positive, but if the last two weeks are any indication: yes, it will be a pretty rough start to the season. However, a lot of teams had very bad game 3s, so personally I'm gonna focus on my fantasy draft, manage my expectations and see what happens against the Ravens.

Maybe give Adam Redmond some practice with the 1s too...I'd try anything at this point.

I hear you, but I'd be curious to see what close analysis shows, since the announcers were saying that the receivers were not getting separation. However, I would say that if anyone won the competition, it's Peterman. I don't feel overly confident about that, but good on him for his play in the snow game and this pre-season.

You know, I'll wait for someone like Cover1's analysis. I hated the Allen pick, but he's done a lot of hopeful things since he got here and calling him out for a first half when he was on the run on almost every play is a bit over the top. Frankly, he looked about as good as he possibly could. Maybe Tyrod would have run away from them. I loved Tyrod, but he had some truly moribund outings last year. My main concern is the line and hopefully they can do some things to adjust that.

Levi Wallace looks like he'll make the team on special teams alone.

Well, how about wait until they look bad in the regular season before nicking them?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd go Allen. He might benefit from the adversity and put up some numbers in the second half. He just doesn't seem like he'd be mentally broken, and he's the most elusive of the 3. But he didn't win the job, so I'm open for whatever as a fan. Also, RAFAEL BUSH!!!! (better runner than the other Bush )

He's got to be near the pre-season lead for rushing yards.

He's looking good, but it doesn't hurt that the o-line is suddenly blocking well. Is the Bengals first team still in?

Ok, way to miss the point, but yes they looked bad in the first half. My point was it's possible to look bad in the 3rd game and still be ok. Hopefully, we do some thing abut the offensive line and Murphy and Kyle Williams are ready for Game 1.

I'd say oddly he won the starting job b/c he might be the only one who won't' get killed. Also, he seems like the type who will learn from the adversity. Well, McDermott did say he wanted to see how the team adjusts after the first half. This is going to have to be one hell of an adjustment.

Cold comfort, but fwiw, the Patriots looked pretty bad in game 3. This is brutal though. We are looking like most people say we are. At this point, I'd like to see Teller get a shot somehow with 1s and maybe bring in Joeckel or some last minute free agent and see what they can do.

They did show the receivers not getting any separation, fwiw

Really, they have to bring in Teller at this point. Give him a shot to see if he's ready.

When you're getting zero pressure, even the best secondary has no chance. Ok, Allen, show some mettle, here!

Let's see how he adjusts. This could be the test. Also, I really hope they insert Teller and see what he can do with 1st string snaps. At this point, he could replace either Miller or Ducasse (i've defended both of them, but they are a mess today).

Ha, no (although at that point i might be looking into if the jets really will trade bridgewater in the division). Frankly, Peterman did win something back by his strong performance in the snow game, and he's looked good in pre-season, but there was something (and i'll admit this may not be fair) tentative about his performance last week. If Allen looks truly bad, Peterman deserves a shot. I'd feel way more confident about the future, however, if Allen grabs the reins this week. If he's managed to earn the starting job this quickly after all the question marks (i was very vocal about not drafting him and am excited that he seems to be proving me dumb so far), that's a good sign for his future and the Bills' future.