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No, they didn't -- I'd let it go, but I'm sick of this particular lazy analysis. They gave her a 71% chance of winning, said that she would win by 2-3 pts nationwide (which she did), and Nate Silver wrote an essay the day before the election noting there was not enough good polling in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania to be confident in her winning. So, he was right twice, yet caught flak from both sides. It's also simply a well-written and entertaining site that deserves better than this tired insult. Sorry if this is political, even if I tried to keep it non-partisan, but it does speak to the site's overall value. I'd hope not, because that would mean they likely went 4-6 or 5-5 against a very favorable schedule. Ah, I should have looked as OP apparently addressed this with almost exactly what I was thinking (and expressed much better than I did ).

Rick Reilly, is that you? Seriously, though, you're getting a bit ridiculous with the contrarianism here. Breaking a Jim Brown record for all-purpose yardage for four years is pretty elite, I would say. To dismiss three Hall of Famers as products of a system who took advantage of a weak AFC is just silly.

Hahaha, I hear you. While I can see the possibility of losing, I just can't bring myself to worry about this Dolphins team (but hoping the actual players feel somewhat different about it).

Any team is capable of laying an egg in any given week, and I've been a Bills fan long enough to know that Sunday could fall apart. However, I think the point of most posters is that if this team cannot beat one of the worst ever teams in football who are erratically coached and might be tanking at home after a week's rest, then this team is not who we thought they were (but are still likely on the right path). In any case, if they can blow that, Rosen or Fitz doesn't make a significant difference, and since we can't control it, why worry about it?

If he hits on his throws to Jack Nicklaus' grandson, I win Lazy Announcers Reference Bingo!

A whopping 2. Karlos Williams had 5 TDs (at least) after his first five games. I'm always in awe of fans who during a 4-1 start will decide to fixate on finding something bad, especially when it's as specious an argument as judging a draft pick after five weeks. I was close watching the games the last few days, and Ford has definitely been a weak spot of the line (loving Morse, Feliciano, and Dawkins with my untrained eye), but then at this point in his career Jason Peters was still a failed tight end. It's kind of more likely that he would struggle in his first five games than succeed.

May I remind you, 12 catches...12!!! But let's press and ready that yellow jacket after a first 5 games that would pan out for a season to 34 catches and 854 yards (which would be a solid rookie season, but not world-changing, and those 11 games have not been played either)

He has 12 career catches! 12!!!!!

Ha, not to derail, but me too. I've heard good things. Pretty sure I went to final Calico's game last year. Enjoy the game. Also, i love the idea of Von Miller (if only Van were alive)

You're not wrong, in fact, just looked it up and in 1988 he was second in FG% and there's no other year I could find that he was higher than 13th. My memory would have been that he was great up to about 1989 and then sort of fell off a cliff. Honestly, I was not particularly surprised when he missed the kick in SBXXV, and thought the national blame for him felt lazy (and still does). I was livid that they did not go for one more play on the sideline, perhaps a quick pass to Thurman (who seemed he could do no wrong that day), b/c the kick was at the edge of his range and even at the time I kinda knew that. That being said, considering his place in NFL lore, why question anyone who wants to have a rosier opinion than maybe his performance deserved. Let him/us have that. Maybe the fan wearing his jersey b/c he was at the celebration in January 1991, one of the most beautiful representations of our fanbase ever. Whatever you think of the whole Bills Mafia thing, the original sentiment behind it (let's be the fans who support our players, not tear them down) was noble. I'll always have a fondness in my heart for him due to Buffalo '66, and that speech that Vincent Gallo gives after not shooting "Scott Wood" -- a speech I heard so many fans give in 1991. He's part of the lore, and if certain fans want to embrace him, to take back his rep, to remember him as better than he was, it's fine with me and it reflects well on the fanbase as a whole.

I know you mean well here, but it's a bit backhanded to call someone a "half way invested fan" for not buying a new jersey all the time. As it happens, I'm not really a jersey person, but in a fit of excitement after driving 10 hours to watch Andre Reed inducted, I decided to buy a jersey, and my choices were Manuel and Watkins. I had a well-paying full-time job then, and am working multiple part-time jobs recently. I still try to find money for Sunday ticket (a new jersey has been secondary) and in NYC between that and going to the Bills bar, I have only missed watching one game in the last 20 years (went to college in Buffalo and lived there most of the 1990s), and watched the replay of that as soon as I could -- that would be on NFL Game Pass in the Seattle airport, screaming loud enough I risked getting thrown out of the area. Tomorrow, I'm checking out the Public House, NYCBBB's new place, and I WILL wear that Watkins jersey proudly, because, to address another poster in this thread... We're not supporting the players, we're supporting the team. I don't wear the jersey to rep Watkins -- although I wish him no specific harm -- but to support the Bills, as I have been since a child in the 1980s (my family's from Buffalo) and stayed with them while I was in grade school in Manhattan and the team was going 2-14 for two years straight. Maybe some fans rocking obsolete jerseys are "half way invested" but not fair to presume that Sorry, yes I may be overreacting while sleepless in the middle of the night, but find this thread a bit obnoxious and judgmental.

Yes, like I'm pretty sure there's no way Barkley can win that Jets game from last year. It's in New York and we are 2-7, so we should probably go back and call that a loss, even though he tore apart their defense and we routed them..

Continuing to squander it?!?! We're 3-1, only loss -- and by less than a TD with the ball with a chance to win at the end -- to the crowned Best Team Ever [TM] who set all-time defensive records for the first three games. Let's get this into some sense of perspective here.

Oh, you're one of those. Yawn!

This is one of the most affably self-aware posts I've ever read on a sports website. Well done, sir. Hopefully you were as wrong on Oliver as it would appear I was wrong about Allen.

FWIW, I was watching the first game at the Seattle airport on my phone through GamePass at 2pm, so it seems pretty quick.

That should probably be the ultimate takeaway: if we're going by the standard yards metric, they were the worst defense in the league by a wide margin in the six quarters he was on the team and the best defense in the league by a decent margin in the 58 quarters after he quit. Thanks Vontae.

Also, let's keep in mind that in weeks 1 & 2, the Bills faced arguably two of the top three or four running backs in football, and that's skewing the results a bit.

Another catch by "First Down" Brown!

Bojo getting enough criticism here, we should give him credit for looking great today! That being said, hopefully that's the last we see him today :)!

He has a lifetime 4.9 ypc in the regular season. He's actually played better in the regular season than during pre-season. I agree that he probably would not get anything in trade, but he's been a solid #3 back when given the chance. Give him his due credit; to say he's not an NFL player is a bit unfair and hard to back up when he's played solidly when given the chance in the actual NFL.

Well, it's hard to sign someone who hasn't been cut ;). They'd have to do battle with the Phillipses

At one point, the Bills 2nd team DL owned the Panthers 1st team OL.

I'm gonna go with a bounceback season and he hits 1000+ for the season (i'll venture a guess of 1379), but that's the last gasp. With the crowded backfield, though, I could see him losing yards if Singletary comes on (or the line could be so improved that Singletary and the vets all ball out).

So, Chief Wiggum?