Solomon Grundy
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Have you watched actual game tape on Glennon? Sit down and watch a whole game on this guy and you will see why people aren't impressed with him. You can't always rely on stats and other so called "experts" opinions. I give everyone a fair shot but this guy is just not cut from the NFL starter cloth.
Yes, I have. I watched the NC, MARYLAND, FL. ST, CLEMSON, VANDERBILT games. There are folks like Cosell, Gruden, Warner, Mayock who says with a little polish this guy can be something. The Bills signed Kevin Kolb not to be their franchise QB, but to let him play while they put some luster on their new toy.
TJ Graham would sure be happy if we drafted Glennon...he really sang his praises on the John Murphy show Tues night.
He's the biggest reason why I think the Bills are targeting Glennon. Do we really think the Bills, two years ago, went to NC. ST to scout TJ Graham exclusively?
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Bills putting out false intel.
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I watched. I'm not convinced. I love his arm and his height. I don't like much else. Pass
What don't you like? Gruden gushed over his throwing ability and accuracy. He knew his mistakes when he made them. As far as his foot speed, Gruden showed footage of Peyton Manning and spoke of Brady not being fast but had pocket presence.
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I suggest everyone not convinced to watch Gruden's camp!
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Collin Klein. He had me early, now I'm on the Glennon train! Hoo Hoot!
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Everyone on this board knows that I think highly of Mike Glennon and hope the Bills draft him as their future franchise QB. If anyone saw Gruden's QB Camp with Glennon and wasn't impressed with what you saw then I don't know what to tell you. Gruden said he threw the ball better than anyone he had in and was impressed by the fact that he had many questions. It shows that he want to be great. This is who I want.
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Do I need to answer this question?
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Barkley's interview at Yahoo Sports shows that he is not a leader and that's why he won't be drafted by the Bills. IMO as QB he should have went to Coach Kiffin and expressed his discomfort with the offense.
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There is no way they trade out of that pick at 8 if Lane Johnson is there. A successful QB plays behind an offensive line that can protect him. With Johnson and Glenn as bookend tackles protection will be A1. This is the type of protection Kolb and the incoming QB will need to excel. I still think the Bills target QB in this draft is Mike Glennon. He will come in and sit behind Kolb for 1/2 the season unless Kolb has them in playoff contention. Glennon's upside is the best of any QB(IMO) in the draft. He has size (will add bulk with training staff), arm strength, accuracy(drops aren't accounted for), anticipation, and he had many come from behind victories in college. Just a smoke screen!
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#BarkWood for me too. I won't be disappointed if their thorough vetting of QB's (NINE of them) leads them to another player, though. Agree with Joe Bus that it's likely Barkley-Nassib, with Manuel third.
Sal Capaccio said he's hearing that Glennon is high on their list.
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EJM
Gruden was concerned with his "ball security"
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1) Arm Strength
2) Accuracy
3) Ability to process information
4) Clutch performer
Which QB in this draft possess all or many of these qualities?
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I feel like we will go offense with our 1st round pick because of all the resources we got last year defensively via the draft.
Round 1- WR Tavon Austin - Look he is the most electrifying player in the draft, i dont care what his height is. If Ansah and Jordan are gone we take this guy hands down. Him and spiller on the field at the same time with Stevie is pretty sweet.
Round 2 - LB Arthur Brown - Dude could be a steal here he is projected a late 1st . He would thrive in Pettine's system and could be our ILB for years to come. One of my favorite players in this draft.
Round 3- QB Mike Glennon - He is the reason Russel Wilson transferred to Wisconsin. This QB can make all the NFL throws. Yes he isnt mobile. Yes he is slow. But who cares? We have an above average offensive line, this guy can sling it. At 6'7 he has an advantage on defenders when it comes to getting to football to receivers.
Round 4 - TE Vance McDonald - He is big guy at 6'4 267. He ran a 4.6. He needs to be polished in blocking and route running but he has great hands and also could be a huge steal here. If chandler is healthy he and mcdonald can make a good combo in 2 TE sets.
Round 5 - OG David Quessenberry- Now who wouldn't want to buy this guys jersey? Anyways. He is very athletic for his size and had great combine numbers. Also He can play multiple positions on the O Line and we need guard help.
Round 6- CB Demetrius McCray - Tall, Long , Lanky, corner who reminds me of the sherman type. Meaning how underrated he is. His tackling needs improvement Has potential to be a starter down the line.
I like, but Glennon is not lasting til 3rd round.
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I noticed that Jon Gruden has declared Nassib the best QB in the draft. I haven't tracked Gruden's rankingss over the years so can make no comment. How about you guys?
FWIW I believe the two QBs who will be flops are Smith & Glennon; I'd avoid both like the plague, especially in the first two rounds. Of the remaining top guys, I think the Bills are looking at Nassib, Barkley, Manuel & Wilson. If they think the Kevin Kolb they signed is the guy so many really liked w/ the Igles, they may elect not to pick any of those QBs, instead waiting until the 3rd or 4th round where they will take one of those guys if available (highly unlikely) or a project QB such as Bray or Scott.
Only because Glennon can't run the read option. He said Nassib is the best in class because he can run any offense given to him. He also gushed about Glennon and how he will shred defenses in the NFL. Called him a classic drop back passer. He said Manuel scared him with his ball security and didnt like Wilson's footwork.
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I have to ask, if you had a chance to add Desean Jackson to your roster would you?
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I think you may parsing words a bit here. I think what Buddy was initially saying is that almost every year -- whether it be a "good" year for rookie QBs or a "bad" year -- there are going to be a couple of guys who become franchise players. I don't think he necessarily had two guys in mind at that time. The "2 or 3" comment he made yesterday was more or less a confirmation of his earlier comment -- with additional information about all of the top QBs in this year's draft. That is to say that at this point he and the scouts have narrowed their focus to the 2 (or 3) guys that he feels has the best chance to be one of those potential franchise QBs.
Regardless, it is fun to guess which QBs the team may have liked best going in -- and which one may have jumped out at them.
I think one of the guys they REALLY liked going in was Barkley. Nix likes guys with leadership and experience at the QB position. He also likes guys who are accurate and anticipate well. That is Barkley. I also think Marrone likes him. The question is whether or not he has the arm strength to stand up in Buffalo.
I agree that Nassib would have been the other choice. Here is one guy that seems to fit the offense they want to run, already KNOWS the offense, and a player about whom they already have a wealth of information. In fact, all of the other QB looks may have been a poorly veiled attempt to throw other teams off the scent -- or it could have been an effort to see if they could talk themselves out of drafting him.
Along those line, it could be that they have fallen in love with another QB's upside over the polish of Nassib and Barkley. Call it a hunch, but for some reason I really do not get the sense that the Bills are all that interested in Geno. (Marrone saw plenty of him up close up and could not have been impressed in those games against SU.) EJ is a possibility, as you suggest. Nix and company have shown a tendency to place a great deal of stock in the Senior Bowl -- and Manuel definitely looked the best there.
There are a few other guys with big upside that could be very intriguing. I thought it interesting that he chose to cite Kaep and Wilson as kids he wished he had not passed on -- rather than, say, Andy Dalton. Manuel could fit that mold. So might Mike Scott. There are also guys like Glennon, Landry Jones and Bray who have big arms and may be available in the 3rd or 4th round.
I think we can book it that the Bills will draft a QB at SOME point in this draft. Will it be at 8? Will they trade back or up into the end of the 1st round? Will they wait and see who is still on the board at 41? Or will that seriously draft BPA and draft their top rated QB in the middle rounds. Whatever thy decide to do, rest assured that they will insist that they got one of the "2 or 3" guys Nix mentioned. If they go that route, I will guess it is Glennon.
I think they had their eyes on Glennon ever since they drafted TJ Graham.
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I can understand the need for ss, but why so high, especially with Scott & Searcy? There are good safeties up through rd. 4.
As far as qb. There is no way Kolb lasts a full season. He takes too many needless hits and too many sacks and Jackson is horrible. Therefore, a qb is imperitive. One that can play this season, because he's gonna have to. You especially want him playing this year because a new coaching staff and young qb always get a mulligan in their first year. The Bills know who their guy is. If they feel they need to select him in rd. 1, so beit. If rd.3 so beit... but their guy better be there, and they better be right.
If Lane Johnson is there and the Bills draft him it will help in keeping Kolb upright and on the field.
The Bills drafting a safety at 8 is BLASPHEMY! This team and the defense can suffice without drafting a safety high. They can not get by without addressing the offensive side of the ball. This team need a " QB of the future" and need to put as much help around him as possible.
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This reminds me of the year when me and Brad Riter were singing the praises of Philip Rivers.
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Greg Cosell has him rated as #2 QB in draft. Says Bills should take him at 41!
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This is why the team at OBD must build a dominant Oline to protect their investments.
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If Lane Johnson, Eric Fisher or Luke Joeckle is there at 8, BOOK IT! If not they will go BPA.
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I bet Geno is atop of the Bills wishlist at QB, but he will be gone before the Bills pick at 8. WVUs uptempo game and the way he is able to spot the mismatch has to be appealing to Hackett and Marrone.
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1) Trade our #1 this year for a 2014 #1 pick, bundle them and draft Johnny Football next year.
2) Stop all nonsense talk about moving a future alll-pro LT to RT. We have a LT, don't draft what we already have. If we have to pick at 8, best LB or receiver available.
What's wrong with having an all-pro L and R tackle?
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I Gotta Buddy-proof myself against the horror... If we draft a position other than QB at 8, and EJ is gone by 41, then the next choice for QB should be Wilson.
Take a gander at this:
Sound credible to you?
Seeing that the guy is mentoring Wilson, I would sing his praises too.
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Buddy!!