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Who made this pick - Key or Peele?

My lord, his Midachlorian count is off the charts! Seriously, I like the pick but if he busts, doesn't it show that the combine is absolutely and utterly worthless, or did we already know that?

I'm guessing the original comment was made because it was a stupid pick for the Bills, not necessarily a stupid pick in a vacuum. The Bills had all sorts of needs, didn't really need an RB and made what was in essence a luxury pick that a team coming off a Super Bowl victory might make. For example, Dallas Clark was available when McGahee was picked. Not a great blocker but he would have gone down as best TE in Bills' history.

If one of the "big four" CB's are available at 30, I think that's where they will go. If one of the four is still around at 20ish, we may even move up. (I hate moving up, always in favor of moving down. Of course, if Bills thought that way, no Josh Allen, so in Beane we trust.)

This is about the one thousandth example of why the draft should be held BEFORE free agency. If the draft was held first and Jenkins was available, sure, make the pick. But you've re-signed Williams (which I thought was an absolute great move by the way) and Feliciano. It's possible we go OL in Round One but doubtful. From what we have done in free agency, if one of the "Big Four" cornerbacks are there at #30, that's the pick. I'm not a big fan of CB's in round one but that's what our moves in free agency are pointing to.

I heard that as well and would have put money on that being chosen as new name. It was perfect. Still had "red" in the name for some nostalgia for old name, plus it would honor WWII heroes the Tuskegee Airmen. That would make some amends for their racist past (original owner Preston Marshall was hard core racist and Washington was last NFL team to integrate). Still believe that will ultimately be the new name.

You know, if I'm JAX, I think I'm going to pass on this deal.

Yeah, but Ryan was a horrible hire. Absolutely horrible. If you recall, we had a very good defense at that point run by Jim Schwartz. I would have been pretty happy to see what Schwartz could have done as HC. Ryan destroyed that good defense. He stunk as a HC.

Is this Jeopardy? I’ll play. “Who are two players the Bills have zero chance of landing?”

I wish we had the cap space for Judon but the way I look at this is: who is a bigger threat to us in 2021 - Ravens or Pats? If you think it’s the Ravens, you should be happy they lost Judon.

Why do I love this signing? Two words. Jordan Mills.

47? Isn't that George Blanda territory? Can you think of any other non-kicker playing at 47?

No surprise here. Surprise would have been if David wound up anywhere other than Tampa Bay.

I started a topic a week ago posing a hypothetical trade between Houston and JAX (Watson straight up for Lawrence). (I know, I know, it's not going to happen. Teams aren't going to trade within the division). I got a lot of grief from folks saying "how can you trade Lawrence; he's going to be generational!" But look at this list. Ten best ranked QB's coming out of college and still a 20% bust rate. If Houston did propose the trade, JAX would be crazy not to jump on it.

The problem with this hypothetical is the same problem as ANY trade with Watson. You just don’t trade a top 5 - 10 QB in his prime. At the end of the day, I seriously doubt Houston pulls the trigger on any trade.

So if you are the Texans you are not making this trade because (1) you’re not trading Watson under any circumstances; (2) you’re willing to trade him but not to a team in your division; and (3) no matter how much potential QB has, you’re not trading a franchise QB for a potential franchise QB. if you’re the Jags, (1) you’re not going to take on a big contract when you can have a potential franchise QB on a rookie deal; (2) you stink and you need a multi-year rebuilding plan and it makes more sense to grow with the rookie and build your team around him. is that about right?

I agree that the fact that they are both in the same division makes this a non-starter but if they weren't in the same division and Houston decided it was going to move on from Watson, it's an interesting thought exercise.

I hope Watson stays in Houston. I really hope he stays out of the AFC East. I really, really hope he doesn't end up with the Dolphins. I've seen a lot of speculation about landing places for him but one I haven't seen is Jacksonville. Wouldn't a Watson for Jags' No. 1 pick (Lawrence) make a decent amount of sense for both sides? Houston trades a disgruntled franchise QB for a potential franchise QB, gets some cap relief and can time a rebuild around their new guy. JAX trades a potential franchise QB for an honest to God franchise QB knowing that sure things aren't always so sure (Goff, Wentz, Darnold, etc., etc.). JAX has the cap room to take on Watson's contract. If that's a stumbling block maybe they throw in a cap dump (as seen in NHL trades). Only reason not to do this is that JAX doesn't want to take on the contract but wouldn't you want to accelerate the timetable to start winning games and make your fanbase (such as it is) happy?

Gilmore is a heck of a lot closer than Newton. Multiple All-Pro, DPOY. I'm not a huge fan but he's got a decent chance to get in.

Wave bye-bye. Play Fromm and Webb a ton in pre-season. If both of them look horrible, panic and trade for a veteran back-up.

Getting Chandler Jones would be kind of insane in a good way. If TB parts ways with Brate, he’d be a nice fit for the right price.

Phenomenal trade for Eagles assuming that they get to dump Wentz' contract. Can the Sabres trade Skinner to the Colts?

You’re correct that I was too lazy to conduct in depth research. I knew he retired because of a history of concussions and that he was a scout for the Panthers. I used to live in Charlotte and know that there are hundreds if not thousands of Bills fans who live in the area. Presumably some of them post on this board. I thought someone might have some insight as to whether Keuchley has any desire whatsoever to come back and play. If he didn’t, I certainly understand wanting to avoid brain damage when he is older. On the other hand, he’s 30 years old and only one year removed from playing at a high level. It’s a legitimate thread.

In the history of the Super Bowl, other than Brady, three QB’s have won four SB’s at age 37 or older. Unitas started SB V at 37. He was terrible, didn’t finish game and his career was pretty much over at that point. (In fact, if you want a laugh, take a look at the box score for Super Bowl V. It may have been the worst game ever played.). Elway won back to back Super Bowls at 37 and 38 and retired. Impressive end to a HOF career. Manning won with Denver but he couldn’t throw the ball 20 yards downfield and he retired after the game. That’s really the thing with Brady. Forget about everything before he turned 37. What he’s done after that is just sick.

Hey, I appreciate (most) of the replies. In starting the thread, I looked at the fact that Gronkowski sat out an entire year and came back to help lead his team to a Super Bowl win. I don't consider the thread any dumber than the threads asking Gronkowski to "come home" and finish his career with the Bills.