Nervous Guy

Steve check out Carson Palmers stats last year to this year for further evidence.

It came down to when you wanted to take your medicine...now or in a year or two...besides, we have one more win this year than we did with DB after 4 games!

in my quest to prove Mark VI wrong about the misnomer of "hook and ladder"...I found this gem in Profootball Weekly in 2004: "Question: How long do you go before pulling the plug on the 2004 version of the Carson Palmer project? This was the year the Bengals were supposed to take a big step forward, but instead, they’ve stepped off the edge, and springs and bolts and parts are flying in all directions. I’ll come out and say it — Palmer has been a disappointment. Big things were expected, and he hasn’t delivered. The Bengals have only three touchdown drives of more than 70 yards all year. Palmer’s passer rating has sunk to 59.8, and the team hasn’t rallied around him. Next Monday the Bengals host Denver, and who really expects them to win that game in their current condition? On the horizon you can see 1-5." patience Bills fans....Palmer looks mighty good this year...

your droll wit is only surpassed by VA's...

BF is back?

whip de !@#$ing doodle....do you actually think that means anything? From Profootball Weekly: I caught a high school football game last weekend — Johnstown (Pa.) High at Bishop McCort, and the visitors hit ’em with a gadget number just before halftime that produced a 7-0 lead. The quarterback found his receiver on a short hook (or curl) pattern. Then the receiver quickly flipped the ball to a trailing tailback who darted 25 yards for the score. “The old hook-and-lateral,” said the Johnstown coach afterward. That’s the correct name of the play, “hook-and-lateral.” A hook pattern is run, then there is a subsequent lateral. And it’s a helluva tricky maneuver to pull off, one based upon precise timing and the hope that some defender doesn’t blow his assignment and wander into the path of the back who’s trailing the initial throw. The play’s most famous version came in the ’81 AFC playoffs, when Miami zapped San Diego with it just before halftime and sent the crazed Orange Bowl crowd to the moon. “We called it 87 Circle Curl Lateral,” says Don Strock, the veteran quarterback under center for the Dolphins that night. “And, believe me, the damn thing never worked in practice.” Yet I continue to hear the name of that play screwed up by announcers. A lot of them call it the “hook-and-ladder” play. On Sunday, Daryl Johnston, Phil Simms and ESPN’s Stuart Scott all took their turns, and I screamed at the television. We’ll probably hear it another 500 times this season. They’re confused. “Hook-and-ladder” is not the name of the gimmick. If a team is truly running the “hook-and-ladder,” then you’d expect them to be barreling down the street in a big, red fire truck with a goofy Dalmatian staring out the window. I wish the TV guys would get it straight. How can you defend your obvious mistake? How does "ladder" make any sense in that play"? Certainly websites like the almighty HOF could never hire a hack writer that would make a mistake....never....

funny...I anticipated an anus remark in your reply...

brilliant....but you know it's not Hook and Ladder...the correct name of the play is “hook-and-lateral.” A hook pattern is run, then there is a subsequent lateral.

how droll.

the 11th post in this thread... and how typical.

yeah...fine...respond to a recycled retread and leave the original gem ignored.

I have a strange feeling of deja vu.

unfortunately not on Super Bowl Sundays.

don't take offense nuklz2594, remember the hammer shatters glass but forges steel. Still, that's a damn funny title.

I think they are staying in to help prevent a total jail break to the QB...alas, they aren't doing that too well either.

nope. Manning began the 2004 season as the backup quarterback for the Giants, behind two-time league MVP Kurt Warner, who the Giants signed in 2004 shortly after he was released for salary cap reasons by the St. Louis Rams. Manning's first regular-season NFL play was in the first week of the 2004 football season, taking over for Warner with three minutes left in the game as the Giants were losing to the Philadelphia Eagles, 31-10. Manning handed the ball off to running back Tiki Barber, who ran 72 yards for a touchdown. For the first nine games of the season, Manning only saw limited action, usually in mop-up situations towards the end of games. However, after Kurt Warner began to struggle midseason, losing three out of four games, Manning was named the team's starting quarterback, making his first professional start in a November 21 game against the Atlanta Falcons. After a rough first half, Manning threw his first touchdown pass in the second half, a 6-yard pass to Jeremy Shockey. However, the Giants ultimately lost the game, 14-10. On January 2, 2005, Manning secured his first career NFL win with a three touchdown performance against the Dallas Cowboys. But perhaps the most telling play of that game - the touchdown passes included - came at the end, when Manning called an audible from a passing play to a running play and handed to Tiki Barber, who ran in the game-winning touchdown and simultaneously became the all-time single-season rushing yards record holder for the Giants.

Agree 100% Eli Manning has now started looking good, last year he was horrible in the first 5 or 6 games...it takes some time...check out Eli's stats last year, game by game... Stats

ouch.

:I starred in Brokeback Mountain:

or maybe this would inspire him. Have you seen this?

My son's team has 48 kids on it, they started out with 54! To the coaches credit, the kids that don't play in the "regular" games get to play in games on Mondays the HC scheduled with other towns that have a similar situation...

it's not just YF parents, it's parents in all sports...the best thing for parents to do is STFU and enjoy the games and support your kid...harder to do than it sounds though. My son must be the same age as yours (just turned 13 and in the 8th grade), he's a very good athlete, been an All Star in baseball and basketball every year since he was about 9...anyway, he's smaller than other kids his age, (even though I'm 6'4") and has yet to hit his growth spurt, but he's extremely quick, tough and athletic...anyway, he's been playing football for the last 3 years and it's been very frustrating for him. He's excelled at every sported he's tried (lucky bastard)..He wasn't even sure he wanted to play football this year since his role was reduced last year in favor of an older, bigger kid (they had about equal abilities). I was really PO'ed last year about his playing time, but I kept my mouth shut and said nothing, but I was tempted. I wasn't going to encourage him to play this year because I thought the coach "wasn't being fair" to him. The day of the first practice this year, he decided to try again, and I supported him...reluctantly. He started out low on the depth chart but has now become the starting WR, KR and PR...he may still be a "smurf", but he's a tough little bastard who has earned his postion through hard work and determination. The bottom line is he made it impossible for the coaches to keep him off the field, he makes the plays. Parents need to let the kids earn the playing time and keep away from coaches, they are not doing thier kids any favors by butting in...most coaches are very fair people who volunteer a tremendous amount of time and effort to coach and teach all the kids, sadly, this is often overlooked by parents who can't get past "playing time"...kids will get more out of it in knowing they are the one's that are responsible for their own success, not because mom or dad bullied the coaches...