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  1. good episode. not a ton of action but it is the building blocks for the "main threat" of this season.

     

    so far i am really enjoying this season it reminds me much more of the earlier seasons and not as ridiclious as the more recent seasons became.

     

    next week should be good.

     

    ughghgh is tony telling the truth? whos side is he on? i have mixed thoughts. whats going to happen with that senator and his chief of staff with the planned attack in DC at 1900??

     

    this is shaping up to get really good!

  2. 'As head of SAC from 1948 to 1957, LeMay's first war plan - drawn up in 1949 - proposed delivering "the entire stockpile of atomic bombs in a single massive attack" -- dropping 133 atomic bombs on 70 cities within 30 days. By the end of his term, the SAC was on constant alert and ready to execute an all-out atomic attack at a moments notice.'

     

    whats wrong with that??

  3. Yup, we have the same ludicrous situation here in GA too. I have learned to be proactive and stay stocked up, but the principle of the thing does make me mad.

    thankfully that law in NY has been "fixed". Then again this is also one of the few places in the country that allows and promotes alcohol being served till 4am ;-) so most here have a vested interest! :thumbsup::thumbsup::lol:

     

    we like to drink (well most anyways..)

  4. In Viet nam it was ears and noses. God knows what they'll be doing in the next war. You had better believe humans become very very unappealing in combat...on either side.

    No one is saying war is glamorous or appealing... its horrible. but unfortunatly sometimes necessary.

     

    The objective of war is to empose your will on the enemy to kill people and break things. it's not plesant.

  5. the sabres need to stand up for themselves and their goalie.

     

    I'm sick of seeing miller being run in the past 3 weeks. it seems as word is going around that yuo can frusterate millsy and take him off his game by bumping him and getting in his face. The sabres need to address it.

     

    Miller is the single most important player on the team. If they plan to do anything in the playoffs its because miller is going to carry the team. the only thing worse than vanek going down is miller getting hurt.

     

    Im sick of seeing the sabres bullied and pushed around. stand up for yourself and each other and this nonsense will stop. i have no problem with somone taking a penalty after a play like that maybe it will send a message to your team to wake up and that they cannot accept that anymore.

  6. "Charging Buffalo"? I say "Buffalo with a ribbon". It is the lamest attempt at a speed graphic, ever. I've seen better from 5th graders.

     

    yea seriously, i dont agree with you on politics Dean, but WTF is that red thing?? i've been wondering for my entire life as a fan...

     

    is it supposed to be some weak attempt at showing a red eye charging forward in a motion blurr? it's horrendeous and needs to go away. ^_^

     

    i love gin

  7. Actaully, I think we're making different points. I said the casualty estimates are realistic based on previous battles in the war, and that wars, when fought, should be ended as fast as possible (e.g., "shock and awe"), as the only thing that really correlates with casualties in war is the length of the war.

     

    YOU, on the other hand, seem to be saying that the Japanese were bastards, so !@#$ 'em.

     

    no i agree with your point 100% if you are capable of dealing an enemy a rapidly decisive crippling blow to make them surrender early there might be a large loss of life in the short term, but over the long term many times more people woulr die in a protracted lengthy war.

     

    the only problem with shock and awe was that equipment/geogrpahic locations and tactics during the 1940's made "shock and awe" difficult. it was succesfully employed with the nazi blitkreig against inferiorly equipped poles and russia in the early stages of the war but germany couldnt maintain their advance as soviet resistance sitffened.

     

    the japanese were superior after the suprise attack on pearl harbor and it took some time to get our country organized to retaliate and counter attack and from 42-45 it took 3 bloody years to fight the japanese back. with the technology available there was no available way to "shock and awe" japan in 1942.

     

    The 2 atomic bombs were looked at in context of just being "a really big bomb" they had no idea of any types of radiation at that time. It seemed like the best available tool to quickly break the enemys will to continue the fight.

  8. If the Allies had invaded Japan, far more civilians would have died. Estimates of civilian casualties in the invasion of Japan were 5-7 MILLION dead. Considering that the overall casualty rate for Japanese soldiers and civilians (of any race - e.g. Filipinos in Manila) in other late-war battles was about ten times American casualties, and considering the Joint Chiefs expected half a million American dead in an invasion, the numbers are probably in line.

     

    Rule of thumb: long wars kill more people that short wars, regardless of how or with what they're fought. If you want to save lives in war, the only way to do it is to do everything in your power to end it as quickly as possible.

    THANK YOU. you obviously get it, i tried to make this same point way back on page 1

     

    The Japanese were increadibly brutal and fanatical. They gassed entire Chinese cities in manchuria, there are not even goos estimates to how many chinese civilians the japanese killed in the late 30's. I have read reports that were based on captured Japanese documents after the war that they had even stockpiked scores of chemical weapon caches they planned to use on invading americans on japanese soil.

     

    To the Japanese their homeland was sacred and the presence of inferior foreigners (americans and allies) was unfathomable even in as desperate and hopeless of a situation that they were in late 1945.

     

    see mass bonzai charges, see waves of kamakazi attacks, see death marchs, see chemical weapons, see brutal prisoner treatments. The Japanese were NOT going to just give up. If there was a mainland invasion it realistically would have been as SAVAGE as the fighting on the eastern from between germany and russia which has gone down in history as some of the most horrific and vionlent ever on the face of the earth.

     

    I have been to islands in the pacific. I have personally been to guam and see where US marines stormed ashore and the battlefields and the caves the japanese were fighting till the last man in. There were japanese stragglers that refused to surrender until like 1980. they were still running around in the jungle because it would bring dis-honor to their family if they were to surrender.

     

    Add all that up and its difficult for modern liberal America to put it into perspecitve where there was a titanic clash of opposing wills and political ideoligies where the survival of NATIONS and ways of life were at stake.

     

    Truman mad the tough choice but the right choice.

  9. Not nearly as many. You and your straw man fallacies.

    i disagree....

     

    the entire island of japan would have been in ruins as they refused to surrender and entire cities would have been flattened. this is back when unrestricted warfare was en-vogue and nothing less than unconditional surrender was to be accepted. pit that against generations of japanese indoctrination in the samurai way and that they were superior to all others with unquestioned loyalty to protecting the emperor and you have a recipe for disaster.

     

    in single fire bombing raids of tokyo estimates of 100,000 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_firebombing not atom bombs, but CONVENTIAL weapons.

     

    here is a quote from a report on "operation downfall" the planned invasion of mainland Japan;

     

    "A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that conquering Japan would cost 1.7 to 4 million American casualties, including 400,000 to 800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan.[1]

  10. I don't know...he chose the lives of soldiers over the lives of civilians.

    either way MASSIVE amounts of civilans were going to die.

     

    If the US invaded mainland Japan you can make the argumen that based on their fanatical beliefs there would actually have been FAR more deaths of Japanese civilians, military and US military

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