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whats wrong with that??

thankfully that law in NY has been "fixed". Then again this is also one of the few places in the country that allows and promotes alcohol being served till 4am ;-) so most here have a vested interest! we like to drink (well most anyways..)

whos ready?! haha im planing my night around watching it...

No one is saying war is glamorous or appealing... its horrible. but unfortunatly sometimes necessary. The objective of war is to empose your will on the enemy to kill people and break things. it's not plesant.

Fail.

any new updates?

the sabres need to stand up for themselves and their goalie. I'm sick of seeing miller being run in the past 3 weeks. it seems as word is going around that yuo can frusterate millsy and take him off his game by bumping him and getting in his face. The sabres need to address it. Miller is the single most important player on the team. If they plan to do anything in the playoffs its because miller is going to carry the team. the only thing worse than vanek going down is miller getting hurt. Im sick of seeing the sabres bullied and pushed around. stand up for yourself and each other and this nonsense will stop. i have no problem with somone taking a penalty after a play like that maybe it will send a message to your team to wake up and that they cannot accept that anymore.

did you go to OP ?

After talking with one of my friends I'm quite positive that i have seen her around before. I dont want to get specific but i believe she worked at a local store/shop... either way its tragic and i hope that animal gets whats coming to him...

no because i have been burned too many times. i will just be a nervous wreck refusing to believe it is "legit" and waiting immenint impending doom disclaimer: i'll probably be drinking the koolaid again ready to hop on the band wagon only to have my hopes and dreams crushed agian... drinking heavily

yea seriously, i dont agree with you on politics Dean, but WTF is that red thing?? i've been wondering for my entire life as a fan... is it supposed to be some weak attempt at showing a red eye charging forward in a motion blurr? it's horrendeous and needs to go away. i love gin

no i agree with your point 100% if you are capable of dealing an enemy a rapidly decisive crippling blow to make them surrender early there might be a large loss of life in the short term, but over the long term many times more people woulr die in a protracted lengthy war. the only problem with shock and awe was that equipment/geogrpahic locations and tactics during the 1940's made "shock and awe" difficult. it was succesfully employed with the nazi blitkreig against inferiorly equipped poles and russia in the early stages of the war but germany couldnt maintain their advance as soviet resistance sitffened. the japanese were superior after the suprise attack on pearl harbor and it took some time to get our country organized to retaliate and counter attack and from 42-45 it took 3 bloody years to fight the japanese back. with the technology available there was no available way to "shock and awe" japan in 1942. The 2 atomic bombs were looked at in context of just being "a really big bomb" they had no idea of any types of radiation at that time. It seemed like the best available tool to quickly break the enemys will to continue the fight.

THANK YOU. you obviously get it, i tried to make this same point way back on page 1 The Japanese were increadibly brutal and fanatical. They gassed entire Chinese cities in manchuria, there are not even goos estimates to how many chinese civilians the japanese killed in the late 30's. I have read reports that were based on captured Japanese documents after the war that they had even stockpiked scores of chemical weapon caches they planned to use on invading americans on japanese soil. To the Japanese their homeland was sacred and the presence of inferior foreigners (americans and allies) was unfathomable even in as desperate and hopeless of a situation that they were in late 1945. see mass bonzai charges, see waves of kamakazi attacks, see death marchs, see chemical weapons, see brutal prisoner treatments. The Japanese were NOT going to just give up. If there was a mainland invasion it realistically would have been as SAVAGE as the fighting on the eastern from between germany and russia which has gone down in history as some of the most horrific and vionlent ever on the face of the earth. I have been to islands in the pacific. I have personally been to guam and see where US marines stormed ashore and the battlefields and the caves the japanese were fighting till the last man in. There were japanese stragglers that refused to surrender until like 1980. they were still running around in the jungle because it would bring dis-honor to their family if they were to surrender. Add all that up and its difficult for modern liberal America to put it into perspecitve where there was a titanic clash of opposing wills and political ideoligies where the survival of NATIONS and ways of life were at stake. Truman mad the tough choice but the right choice.

i disagree.... the entire island of japan would have been in ruins as they refused to surrender and entire cities would have been flattened. this is back when unrestricted warfare was en-vogue and nothing less than unconditional surrender was to be accepted. pit that against generations of japanese indoctrination in the samurai way and that they were superior to all others with unquestioned loyalty to protecting the emperor and you have a recipe for disaster. in single fire bombing raids of tokyo estimates of 100,000 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_firebombing not atom bombs, but CONVENTIAL weapons. here is a quote from a report on "operation downfall" the planned invasion of mainland Japan; "A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that conquering Japan would cost 1.7 to 4 million American casualties, including 400,000 to 800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan.[1]

lolz

either way MASSIVE amounts of civilans were going to die. If the US invaded mainland Japan you can make the argumen that based on their fanatical beliefs there would actually have been FAR more deaths of Japanese civilians, military and US military

By that logic; Imagine what the spanish thought of the islamic moors...

president truman was faced with a horrendeous decision either way and history has shown he made the correct one.

hes good to make a playoff guarantee every once in a while...

ahhhaha this should be interesting.. reminds me of a party boat cruise in MN...

as much of a charactar liabilty as lynch is, i have a hard time buying that..... lynch can play ball

no i couldnt listen, cliff notes??

please no... my immediate gut reaction was this story HAS to be FAKE... but then i realized unfortunatly it might be true.. the bills don't have a recent track record of making good decisions so i wouldnt put this past them

so what happened??

i dont advocate violence but i do make exceptions in extreme cases. they need a good ol' fashioned beat down.