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this board is getting nuttier by the day.

that's what i'm saying, thigpen is gone and then you cut Fitz..where the hell is our QB depth? We're going to put all our marbles on a rookie QB from day 1 with no competition? Again, none of the QB's this year are "can't miss" QB's. They're all a bit of a project. Keep Fitz. He's a stand up guy and not an A$$...he shouldn't cause much trouble. He's the perfect backup actually. Heck, maybe ask him if he'd be willing to restructure his contract. if that's the case, why not cut CJ, Mario, Dareus, KW, actually, cut the entire team..they all have the same record the last 3 years as fitz.

i'd keep him. draft a QB in rounds 1-3 and let them compete. QB's in the draft don't cost as much as they used to. Thigpen should be gone. If we cut Fitz and draft a QB, who's going to be our backup? None of the QB's in this year's drafts are "no-brainers" so there's a good chance that the rookie may seriously struggle early on. I'd much rather start fitz for first half of season (when the bills usually do well) and if the season starts going downhill, you plug in the rookie to see what he can do after learning for half the season. Only way i'd let go of Fitz is if we are able to land another QB via trade AND draft a QB...but if we're only drafting a QB, you HAVE to keep fitz imo.

i watched at least 5-6 of his games at auburn (i have the college package) and probably about another 8-10 games since he's been in the nfl (i have sunday ticket). i've watched plenty of Cam. i don't deny his talent, but i'm telling you that there's SOMETHING that is still missing from that guy and it's not physical....

Talking the talk would be actually winning and not posting a 6-9 record after your second year. I mean fair is fair, if we're going to judge our team on wins and losses and not stats, we might as well judge other teams' players as well by the same standard. Every panthers fan I know (2 to be exact..lol) have both admitted that Cam has been a bit of a letdown thus far. This is not to say he sucks though.. We also have a carolina poster on this board (forget his name) who was growing tired of Cam's act. This was about 5 weeks ago, so maybe some of their recent winning has changed his mood a bit...i dunno. Again, next season will be a criitcal season for Cam and the Panthers organization.

for full disclosure, i never liked Cam Newton. Didn't like him in college and he's done very little in the NFL for me to start liking him. That being said, i'm not rooting for the guy to fail. As a fan of the sport, I'd simply like him to start getting his act together. He's got the ability to be just as explosive, if not more so than RGIII. Still, I would give my right nut to have RGIII, but I don't know if i'd give much to have Cam. If you're the Panthers right now, after two seasons, you still have a lot of questions about your franchise. Next year is going to be a huge year for Cam..we'll see how he handles that pressure as the fans in Carolina are going to start getting restless unless they start winning soon.

4 of the bills losses this year are by 7 points or less.. i hear everything you say and don't necessarily disagree that much..just trying to avoid the grass is greener syndrome.

ya, that's the route i'd go as well. I'd take the best defensive player available in the 1st (even if it's a CB), and then go QB in the second round or even 3rd round. i really don't think there's that much of a difference between the "top" 2 QB's and the 3-5 QB's in this draft. I really don't.

This is not meant to be argumentative and i'm not going to start a debate with you, but you're probably the one poster on this board who constantly rips on Fitz for every damn thing that goes wrong on the team, but with Cam Newton, you quickly defend his W/L numbers by stating that the team around him sucks. How's our secondary, and where are we constantly drafting?

Landry in the second or third round would be great. or even trade back up into the second if possible.

I would trade the first 3 picks for a guy you're bonkers over, like Luck, RGIII, or even Cam Newton two seasons ago. Our result would likely render Ponder, Tannehill, and Weeden.

Skins drafted Cousins in the later rounds, but they absolutely knew that RGIII was their QB and will be their QB unless RGIII's knee blows out and he's done for the season in the future. There was no competition whatsoever. There's no RGIII in this draft. Drafting a QB in the first 3 rounds is asinine. You wanna take a QB in round 1 and maybe take another in round 4 or 5, sure. Also, the redskins didn't finish at the bottom of the league in defense the year they drafted RGIII and Cousins like the Bills are this season. We can't just ignore all other positions. The Bills are second to last in points/game on defense this season and we were third to last in points/game on defense last season.

This is just silly. Ridiculous, actually. You did say it was "drastic" though..

According to Sports Illustrated, the Bills are expected to fire coach Chan Gailey. However, GM Buddy Nix's fate is apparently uncertain. Working in concert, Gailey and Nix have guided the Bills to a 15-31 record since taking over in 2010, and have had trouble finding viable assistant coaches. Nix has made it known he intends to find quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick's successor this offseason, so whether or not owner Ralph Wilson trusts him to find one could play into his future. From his misuse of C.J. Spiller to blind faith in Fitzpatrick, Gailey will have worked hard to earn his walking papers if he's indeed fired. Source: Sports Illustrated Dec 27 - 5:46 PM

this is the best news we could have. Dirty does us dirty every time. Dirty: 22 - 30; 240yds; 2TD; 0INT. Jets 28 Bills 10 Bills get a top 5 pick. WOOT!

Ya I definitely agree between the small margin for error...that's where the coaching staff should come in.

Vikings: 9-6 Bills: 5-10 1. Points per game: Vikings - 22.8; Bills - 21.1 2. Rushing yards/game: Vikings - 161.1; Bills - 140.5 3. Rushing yards/carry: Vikings - 5.4; Bills - 5.1 4. Rushing TDs: Vikings - 15; Bills - 10 5. Fumbles: Vikings - 9; Bills - 6 6. Passing yards/game: Vikings - 168.3; Bills - 202.9 7. Passing yards/attempt: Vikings - 5.9; Bills - 6.6 8. Passing TD's: Vikings - 15; Bills - 23 9. INT's: Vikings - 12; Bills - 17 10. Defense pts/game: Vikings - 20.9; Bills - 28.4 11. Defense yds/game: Vikings - 346.3; Bills - 364.9 12. Sacks: Vikings - 31; Bills - 30 13. INT's: Vikings - 12; Bills - 17 14. Forced Fumbles: Vikings - 13; Bills - 18 Looking at those numbers, a few surprise me: we have basically the same amount of sacks, have more INT's, and have more forced fumbles than the Vikings. Considering we're 4 games apart, the numbers are pretty much balanced and even; The vikings are a little better at running the ball, the bills are a little better at passing the ball, they score about the same amount of points; bills give up a few more points, but that could also be chalked up to several complete blowouts. I'm not sure what the exact strength of schedule is, but i can assure you that the Vikings had a tougher schedule than we did after looking at their schedule. So with similar #'s to the bills, and a tougher schedule than the Bills, they somehow manage to be 4 games better than the bills. The ultimate difference between teams probably comes down to coaching (preparing to execute when it matters most in a game), and mental toughness as a team..which can also go back to coaching. It's pretty sad to look at those numbers and see how close we are on paper to a possibly playoff birth yet somehow in reality, we're still so far away.

Lol. I've had one too many jack n cokes tonight. Sorry. =(

I'd go with Chan one more year, guarantee another top 5 pick next year and then go all in on Andy Reid in 2014.

amen to that man. that being said, i'm sure we'll beat the jets..for the first time in how many games? how bills-like would that be?

ya, i'm never one for rooting for a loss...but man a win next week would be absolutely pointless. I wanted us to finish strong vs the dolphins and the jets, but after this weeks shitshow, i just want a high draft pick.

i'd be happy wither Te'o. VERY happy. this team seriously needs a playmaking LB up the middle. KW, Dareus, and Te'o sounds nice up the middle. However, i'd happily go with Bjoern Werner if Te'o isn't there or even if he is there. Werner is the best DE in this draft and though we have quite a bit of money at the DE position, we STILL lack a consistent pass rush from the front 4.

lol

yeah, jones is def best for a 3-4. maybe we'll just switch back and forth between 3-4/4-3 personnel every 2 years and eternally suck at both? best defensive player at #4 for our defense is in my sig.

when will we ever see a 9-7 record around here anymore??