bobobonators

Players lost this game, not the coaches. Mckelvin and Brown accounted for a net of -11points on the board. This was a game we had and lost. Its games like these that doom your season.

So who you going with this week?

You were 100% right man. As a bills fan my view was jaded. Go bills!

I understand your point but just want to point out the obvious: manziel lives in an era where everyone has a phone w a camera, there are industries fully dedicated to exploiting and covering athletes, and then throw in the explosion of social media. Kelly may have been able to keep a lot of his actions private bc it was a heck of a lot easier to do so 20-30yrs ago.

JOHNNY FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!?

We'll see

If information presented is credible and corroborated an investigation will ensue. What happens from there is unpredictable. Just bc theres an investigation doesnt mean a crime has been committed - thats a whole other process.

This is potential gold for feds. If TMZ even has a smidgen of evidence they will investigate. Txt messages, phone records, emails, bank accts, social media accts will all be subpoen'd.

I agree about Browns. The AFC North and NFC South have seriously screwed me over this season in pick 'em leagues. All of the teams are so up and down it's hard to predict week to week.

I feel that head coaches like Cowher and Dungy achieved success at a specific period in time in the NFL (for Dungy more b/c of who his QB was) and that success can't be easily replicated 10yrs later. Just like players have a "window" of success in the NFL, I feel coaches also have a time period of success (usually longer than that of a player for obvious reasons) where they reach their pinnacle and then for a myriad of reasons their career begins to fizzle out. There's a reason why not many coaches have taken multiple teams to the playoffs and even less coaches have taken more than one team to the super bowl.

Man after watching last night's Bengals game, it never ceases to amaze me how quickly things change in the NFL at the QB position.There were always some questions around Dalton but man oh man I think last night may have been the final nail in that coffin. http://boards.bengals.com/showthread.php?t=127799 Dalton's start rivaled that of Geno Smith vs. the Bills 2 weeks ago. Dalton has a 7 year 97 MILLION dollar contract and won't become a free agent until 2021. Ouch. (I think $17m of that is guaranteed money).

I'm not sure about Orton - but Dalton sure as F ain't the guy.

That woulda really sucked. Last minute I changed the Bengals D from my fantasy team this week, so hopefully it's a sign of good things to come.

I can't think that far away

He's also been missing two huge weapons for 1.5 of those games in CJ and FJ.

Lmao

I had us winning this game prior to season so no point in changing now. Chiefs 13 Bills 17 Ugly defensive game.

Im really liking it.

The DUDE

Who?

Im really liking what Orton has done for us this yr but i would wait to sign him to an extension.

I agree man. I'm in the eastern time zone and that 9:30am start was fantastic - had football all day long.

AWESOME!

there are multiple threads already

If you're making the minimum of +$400K/yr I think you can afford to go on a trip to London in March or April without having to rely on the London game vs. Jax to get there. It would be like an UFA choosing a team based on its uniform colors.