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Jealous of everyone who is going. Have always wanted to see a game in Seattle. Especially primetime.

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Not sure who you're referring to, perhaps the OP. As for me, i dont dislike Cam in any way. And as for the hit on TT, i agree it shouldve been a flag. The fact that it wasnt just goes to show how other QBs take hits as well and dont get the flags in their favor. TT didnt cry about it after the game to the media. Cam complaining about it makes it seem like hes the only one that takes hits; as if hes the exception. No, hes not.

The leauge is soft compared to decades past. Soft and delicate like a garden pansy flower.

I understand that you dont think its a conspiracy but Cam appears to believe so by his own words. If Cam says he doesnt get calls that other QBs get what is he really trying to say? What is he directly implying? The implication is clear. Is it right for him to say that? There are plenty of QBs who dont get calls. Theres only one Marsha. Lol

Lmao. K, lets go and walk through this for the 10th time: NFL is specifically conspiring to ignore hits on Cam. This is exactly what is being implied by Cam. He is not calling out a single ref. He is painting with a broad brush. He is calling all refs/umps into question bc he is not getting calls that other QBs are getting. Such actions by Cam specifically call into question a possible league-wide conspiracy. Why Cam. Why is that happening to YOU but not R wilson, Luck, Big Ben, Matty Ice, etc. Why is the league targeting YOU Cam? Ok, go. I want to hear Cam's thought process.

Very interesting article. To me it comes down to this: if a player like Cam is going to vocally complain about not getting calls people are going to start looking at every play where he gets hit and question whether or not he should get flagged. Players that dont vocalize their complaints dont go under the microscope. Everytime Cam gets hit now whats the first thing people want to know? They want to know if it was flag worthy. It becomes an event. Cam needs to realize the NFL has much to lose and nothing to gain by having him injured. Refs arent out to get him. It defies logic.

I agree. But its undeniable that Cam is a star. So by that logic, why wouldnt the NFL protect him? Cam is implying that the NFL is not protecting him the same way others are protected.

I agree. But we did beat the pats once and cardinals as well. Two losses i had prior to season. We cant lose anymore divisional games for sure

Prior to the season i had us losing both games. The Miami loss hurt more. Especially bc i felt that the dolphins didnt win that game. We lost it.

I can see how someone like Cam who is so big and strong for a QB to not get a call his way after taking a hit bc he doesnt flop as often for example. Sometimes these less athletic QBs get touched and go flying backwards leading to a much more dramatic looking hit and possibly influencing a ref to throw a flag just bc it looked worse. Is it fair? I would say its not fair. Its almost as if its a curse for Cam to be his size and be able to take hits. I just dont know how much of the lack of flag throwing is attributed to refs having an agenda. Would you say a player like Russel Wilson doesnt get calls either? Andrew luck is a big guy too who scrambles a lot. I feel that hes getting killed every other game. One day Luck may literally die on the field at the rate hes going.

Is it possible to have one ref that has a specific gripe vs Cam and will refuse to throw a flag? Sure that could happen. But to say that Cam systematically gets hits against him ignored, directly implies a league-wide conspiracy. No one cant argue that without implying a conspiracy. Its a slippery slope. Sorry. In this case i meant targeted in that refs are specifically looking the other way. Poor use of wording by me.

Brady never runs so I dont know. Whats the point to overly protect Drew Brees who is a couple of years from retirement but to blindly ignore hits on a current and future NFL star? There is no logical explanation to say Cam is targeted by refs.

Who are the Golden Boys though? The rules on hits to a QB who is in the pocket are different than the rules for QB's that are no longer in the pocket and are running outside of the pocket. So yeh, the hits vs a mobile QB are going to be worse b/c defenders can do more when a QB is outside the pocket.

But isn't that the same for any organization in the world across the board?

Thank you for clarifying and sorry if I misread. But for someone (Cam and other posters here) to say that he doesn't get calls like other QB's get calls, then there is an implied conspiracy there. If it's just bad officiating across the board, that's a whole other argument, and one I may agree with.

I agree about the rules getting more complicated to understand and therefore enforce every single year. But why are there more rules in recent years? Because, we the fans, parrot what the media cries about for 24hrs/day whenever there are injuries in the league and say how violent the NFL is how they ignore head injuries, and how football is so violent, violence, violence, violence...So the NFL has to react to the 24/7 bashing it receives by fans and media and attempt to do something about it. The product we have now is partly a result of us complaining about how the NFL was.

I wasn't there and you weren't there. Ed Hochuli denied saying that. It's a matter of he said/she said. I think Cam is an awesome athlete and player. The NFL needs stars at QB. There is absolutely no financial, ethical, or business incentive for the NFL to plot Cam's early demise. Zero. To imply that the NFL has some crusade against Cam runs counter to everything the NFL attempts to build-on as a league: star power, brand power, and revenues. Cam brings the NFL star power, reinforces the brand's popularity, and increases revenues as a result of his star power.

I just dont buy it. Is he sitting there watching every game Brees is playing or every game that Big Ben is playing and keeping detailed stats of how many calls they dont get compared to him? Or is he just giving his biased/subjective view? Again, nobody answered my questions from earlier: 1. If we are saying hes not getting the same calls, then we are implying some systemic bias against him. Why? What incentive does the NFL have to have its young superstar injured? Bc there are so many stars at QB in the NFL and ratings are so high the NFL would rather have Derek Anderson starting. 2. Who benefits from this conspiracy to not flag hits on Cam? 3. Logistically, how does this conspiracy begin? Was the idea floated around at the owners meetings? Is Roger emailing all the NFL refs to ignore hits on Cam?

It was. It was a better game in my opinion. What Im saying is that for those people that are constantly complaining about hits, concussions, injuries, etc and blaming the NFL for everything injury related, today's NFL changed quite a lot and today's game is much softer than it was 20-30yrs ago. Roger didnt invent football; he didnt make it a violent sport.

LOL. i just had to throw a clip in there of Brady getting smashed. And today it probably wouldve been a flag for the defender leaving his feet and leading with the helmet. Unless youre landry. =(

I found it too

I can interpret that you have to earn it as: if its not worth a flag we arent going to flag it. When people claim that Cam doesnt get calls the following logical questions are required: 1. Why? Why do you think hes not getting calls. 2. Is it an actual fact that hes not getting calls at the same rate as other QB's or does it just become the popular thing to say and everyone else parrots the same response? 3. What motivation would there be for the NFL to not protect one of its young superstars? 4. Who benefits from Cam getting injured? 5. If you say that Cam doesnt get calls like other QBs do then you are directly implying that it is a league-wide conspiracy. Please break down that conspiracy for me. On a purely logistical basis, do they get together at the owners meeting and talk about how Cam is going to be put down? Does this happen during ref meetings? Does Roger send out league-wide emails?

Maybe brady releases the ball in under 3 seconds and doesnt get hit as often? Look how many big hits Big Ben takes. If you are a big QB and are known for breaking away from sacks/tackles, defenders are going to come up with creative ways to take you out. You can sack brees with one arm. Hes small.

I only got to watch the first 5min of this game (thankfully). How did Dareus play in his 1st game back? I saw one play where he blew up Blount in the backfield but I had to leave shortly thereafter. Did he have other decent plays?