All_Pro_Bills

I hear you. The 5 mile run I might be able to do depending on what is chasing me!

Dangerous order was telling the generals to go out and actually win a war this century.

Bomb the Presidential Palace in Havana. But first invite BLM leadership to attend the event.

My advice... Stop debating specific idiots here that never have a constructive comment or can't answer an elementary question on any topic.

What's most comical, over and above the constant and blatant contradictions and inconsistencies they express, is how these media ass clowns have absolutely no self-awareness. They are so arrogant and smug that these ass clowns don't know they are ass clowns. Now that's funny!

The problem is the truth and facts invalidate and conflict with their argument and at the end of the day all that's left is meaningless slogans and symbols which have no application to the issue.

What research is necessary? First there's no burden of proof meeting any legal standard here. This isn't a court of law its a message board. I'm merely providing my comment on what the opposition will likely do to block any progress. That's my view, my opinion, plain and simple. Posting on a story about the audit and the findings to date. You can either like it or not like it. So what "research" do you want me to do? Fly down to Atlanta and interview the audit team and then give you a full report? It seems to me you're just looking to avoid addressing the very strong probability that some level of systemic fraud is going to be uncovered in Georgia. Why don't you comment on that specific story instead of blowing a lot of smoke here? And maybe give us your expert opinion on how the audit team's approach and methodology is flawed? Frankly, your thought process is flawed here. What you're saying is we cannot generate any original thoughts or have any opinions or views unless these views and opinions are confirmed and verified as "true" by experts. Then we will be allowed to discuss the topic. So no critical thinking or logical thinking is allowed. Essentially your looking to impose some sort of pseudo censorship on our discussions unless the posts meet some "standard" you find acceptable. Nice..

There isn't a requirement for the left to "prove" or "verify" anything (which they never do) as evidenced by the continuous flow of false and misleading stories like the Russian collusion hoax. So putting out news on investigations in progress is a legitimate activity. And suggesting some reactions even if in jest to that news is well within my rights here to post. So let's see how this plays out.

Likely to follow. US AG Garland to send another team of DOJ civil rights lawyers to Georgia immediately. "Fact checkers" deployed by social media to block and delete content about GA audits. Launch of intelligence community disinformation and smear campaign to discredit the auditors. MSM will block, ignore, and dismiss news stories and sources on any irregularities insisting it was the fairest election ever.

What you're suggesting is conjecture and speculation. Your father would have been put in jail if he was black? I would frankly prefer to hear his perspective on that time and the events of it rather than his son's view. As per prison, although stats are hard to come by my best guess using available sources would put 1960 prison population in the ballpark of around 65% White. The existence of institutions such as separate but equal are well documented and are no secret to anyone. I learned of this in high school (and believe it or not we also learned about the Native American tribes that inhabited the area). And also gained awareness of social issues through involvement in the labor union and civil rights movements in my younger days. And as a result met and socialized with people then that lived under the system. But these social arrangements were outlawed with the civil rights acts of the mid-1960's. So its been about 55 years or 3 generations. Anyone under about the age of about 55 has no personal experience living under such a system, the oppressor or the oppressed. I could bump that age up to 60 to include anyone living at the time under age 5. That's about 2/3+ of the US population. The activists and protesters involved in groups like BLM citing these historical wrongs (which they were) have zero life experience in that system. Most are highly educated many with advanced degrees and grew up in higher income and middle to upper class households. They are far from oppressed. And strangely their confrontational approach to race relations and the pursuit of "equality" differ markedly from that of their elders. People that experienced blatant racism and fought for rights. So how can a system that hasn't existing for about 60 years that anyone under 55 plus up to maybe 5 more years has never experienced from any perspective have such a profound effect on the present?

That's not what I'm saying. The argument I'm consistently challenged with from some other posters is focused on a continuous historical retrospective and historical references which insist that past indiscretions should be blamed for present problems. The idea being past racism explains all current problems. And there is no time element associated with this past racism. It could be 10 years and its still there. It could be 160 years and it's still the dominant characteristic of culture. Perhaps people in the future will argue its still there after a 1,000 years and more. Who knows? Look, my life is far from perfect but I'm not sitting around holding a grudge against the Ottoman Empire for what they did to my ancestors 120 years ago and blaming them for why I didn't qualify for that home loan 15 years ago or why I didn't get into a better college. At some point it might be time to move on from chasing the ghosts of racism-past and move on to resolving some resolvable problems like improving education and income levels and addressing the fundamental causes and consequences of poverty issues. If people insist on blaming racism for all that ails society its a certainty that nothing will ever, ever get fixed.

Take your time machine back to the Trump administration and everybody in the media and the woke virtue signalers would be calling such statements from DHS racist. Can the irony and hypocrisy get any louder?

The part that generates conflict and hate between races through classifications like oppressor and oppressed. That kind of mindset sets the stage for revenge. That's the part.

Check out South Africa. Not a lot of media coverage. Because the optics are bad. Blacks looking to kill Whites and Asian Indians. CRT in action..

Without knowing everyone's specific situation that all seems hypothetical and subjective and would require an examination of the past on a case by case basis. And there we no social services or safety nets back then. Like what jobs couldn't blacks hold in the 1920's? Farmer, laborer, cook? My question for today is what jobs can't blacks hold today? What social services can't blacks access today? What loans can't blacks qualify for because of their skin color? What laws exist that legalize discrimination against blacks? What formal discriminatory practices are stopping anyone interested from pursuing opportunity today?

Privileges? There was no social service agency handing out free food, or housing, or medical care, or anything. You either worked, made a living for yourself, or you perished. If you want to call that privilege feel free.

The left will not welcome them because they tend to be more conservative than immigrants from Central America. And Cubans come here for freedom not for hand outs. And the left doesn't want them here because you can't condemn communism in Cuba while advocating it here. That's why all the woke social justice human rights advocates have gone underground and are maintaining radio silence on the subject. Its a contradiction they won't face. My idea, all the American socialists/communists wanting communism can swap places with a Cuban citizen wishing to live here. A win-win for everyone. I'm 100% positive there will be no takers for that offer.

My family did not. My paternal grandparents lost their farm during the depression and my maternal grand father worked hard and died in his 50's leaving his wife and 4 grown children. So I am completely free of any guilt or complicity in any oppression.

I think you're right here. But my ancestors didn't do anything to harm African-Americans. In fact my family being active in the labor and civil rights movements starting in the 1960's and into the late 20th century actually helped African-Americans and others secure rights and good paying jobs. My ancestors were Southern Europeans that immigrated to the US in the early 1900's, They were subject to persecution by the Ottoman's in their homeland. They came here and worked hard with one-set of grandparents owning a farm in Niagara county and then moving to California during the Great Depression. My other grandparents stayed in WNY and raised a family there. Family members fought during WW2. Others served and continue to serve. When I was young I was teased and taunted because I had a "funny" last name compared to the "Smith" and "Jones" white English names. While this lead to a lot of skirmishes some of which I won and most of which I lost it all taught me a valuable lesson to be tolerant of others. Something unknown to me for a long time was that my mother told my wife that growing up I was always the person sticking up for the kids that everyone else picked on. It is something I grew up not realizing. As an adult I've acquired friends and acquaintances that could fill out the spectrum of diversity. And treat them all as I wish people would have treated me growing up. My experiences and lessons molded the person I am and continue to be. But when somebody slots me into some collective group and tells me I'm a racist just because I share the skin color of that group I take exception. They can call it crap like "white rage" or anything thing they want. But it is crap. They know absolutely nothing about me or my experiences and they are simply out of line making accusations like that or telling me I'm some kind of oppressor. Who the hell are they to judge me? The only way to stop discriminating against people because of race is to stop thinking of and judging people in the context of race. They are individuals with unique qualities and unique experiences. Some good, some bad, but all unique to be judged and noted for their own qualities and behaviors.

What you believe won't matter when the crisis hits our country. And its likely to hit during the current administration's term which will put any forecast of "one party" rule in grave jeopardy. As the future unfolds with a lot of unpleasant consequences for past and current errors the ideology you cling to now will look foolish and everyone will wonder why we focused on such nonsense in the face of real problems.

That is unfortunate and lot of this resistance has been generated by a growing lack of trust and confidence in "experts". They change their story and the story is full of inconsistencies. The goal should be for everyone to have immunity not to have everyone vaccination as vaccination is one of the paths to create immunity. However that immunity is produced. You can be infected with COVID, recover, and generate natural immunity and have the same result as somebody that was vaccinated. Telling recovered COVID patients they must get vaccinated is in conflict with the concept of "medical necessity". For example, did you ever hear anyone suggest that people who were infected and recovered from the measles should get a measles vaccine after they recover? So why is COVID different? A virus is a virus. So more inconsistency from the experts. And the perception of a lot of people that their views are less about medicine and science and more about politics and ideology. My suspicion is officials are just lazy and it is easier to count and track vaccinated people than it is to track and count people that recovered and have antibodies and then add them into the vaccinated totals and counts to get a view of the population as a whole. As for children and COVID the "science" and data support the conclusion that children have almost zero risk of hospitalization or death or suffering a severe or critical case of COVID. Cases are mild to asymptomatic. So applying the concept of "medical necessity" weighing the risk of getting or not getting the vaccine (and potential short-term and unknown long-term side effects) seems like a logical conversation that should take place. A conversation between the parents and their physician, not the government. But you bring that up and you're told to just shut up and do what you're told to do. By people that many believe don't know what they are doing. This lack of confidence to me is just symptomatic and evidence of the breakdown in social orders and arrangements that I believe are the main theme to the crisis that awaits.

I'm close to you on that. I think we're at a point in time where a lot of negative circumstances are converging. I've done a lot of reading and research on concepts like the cycles of history and the rise and fall of Empires. And make no mistake the US operates a world-wide Empire. But an Empire on the decline faced with a crisis cycle of social, economic, and political factors at a time when its primary source of energy is in on the back-end of the supply curve. There are three books that I think together describe the factors and the situations. Empire of Debt by Bonner & Wiggin The Fourth Turning by Strauss & Howe The Long Emergency by Kunstler My conclusion from all this research and observation of current events is that as a society we are doing exactly the wrong things at exactly the wrong time to address the critical problems we face and will face in the future. So expect things to get much worse in every way until the start to be better. Where it all ends up is a guess at this point.

Other stuff? Like nuclear weapons and some fighter jets? A few tanks? Even our senile and ancient President said you're not going to over throw the US government with just guns. Of course in that situation he was talking about plans to restrict 2nd amendment protections and not the 1/6 protest riots. But in a brief moment of clarity and honesty his point is well placed and correct. The insurrection narrative gets the amp'ed up threat to democracy version. So if they had all these weapons how did a bunch Capitol Police which are one step up from mall cops stop their plan? Why didn't the protesters shoot anybody? Why bring a bomb to a riot if your not going to set it off? Why didn't they track down and capture the Senators and Representatives that were the target of their anger and objective? Or do much worse to them? Why didn't they burn down the Capitol or something like that? That would have most certainly delayed the House certification of the election results. Why can't proponents of the insurrection hoax story that have no answer to this question admit it wasn't an insurrection? And that angle is just for scoring political points? I've asked this question about why they didn't carry out their plan given absolutely little to no resistance several times and have been left disappointed as no intelligent or logical explanation is posted. All I get is nonsense and deflection. And some tit-for-tat anti-Trump story line. Truth is there is no logical explanation because there was no planned insurrection. Truth is none of us that think the narrative is all BS think you believe it either. We think you are just unwilling to admit to the truth. And given my perception of your intelligence level I can't see how you could believe such a transparent lie.

I'm sure they'll find a way to "bend light" and justify both resisting the rule of the majority when they are in the minority and such actions support their positions and demanding obedience to the rule of the majority when they are in the majority and such actions don't support their positions. And its likely the irony of that inconsistency will be lost.

I really can't speak to that as I don't support legislation that will prohibit or inhibit citizens from fairly casting their ballots. Statements out of the governors office indicate they will be arrested when setting foot back in Texas. This might get interesting..