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I took a cursory read of this lawsuit and its incomprehensible that any court that isn't predisposed to a particular political view would entertain it. Frivolous is the word I think. What I find most comical is how oblivious they were of any real or potential consequences that might result from their completely voluntary decision to flee the state. Or perhaps for some reason they believed they were exempt from consequences? Or some entitlement of liberal privilege? Failure to comprehend or acknowledge consequences is a common theme for the liberal mind and agenda. Whether its ideas like letting biological men use the women's restroom (what could possibly go wrong there?), letting COVID-19 infected individuals into the country while pretending its not happening (while un-vaccinated citizens are subject to discrimination), or eliminating standard testing protocols in high schools because minority kinds can't pass the tests (because the scores expose the incompetence of the teachers and the educational system). Or getting rid of cops and not foreseeing an increase in crime. Simply idiots. And its all based on their belief in their intellectual, moral, and ethical superiority. Ask them. Ask them to deny this belief. I've asked many liberal people I know. You'll be met with silence. Its a false premise that is at the core of their entire ideology.

I'm so glad educators are preparing students for life as a generation of multi-cultural diverse losers as they will be unprepared for the challenges and competition presented in the global market place against student from other countries that are proficient at every major subject. So what's the point of sending your kids to Oregon public schools other than have them participate in social indoctrination activities? The only people dumber than the elected officials are the people electing them. This is kind of the plot to Idiocracy.

Fauci just suggesting mandatory vaccinations for public school teachers. I'm interested to see where this goes per the mandate crowd and actions for mandates to this point.

Its all subjective. Too many? For one person too many is 10, for another too many is 100. The fundamental question is if I focus all my policies and resources on saving the life of every person and every child but in the process I would need to destroy the entire US economy and every institution and business in the process it would be the appropriate action? Or maybe the fatality risk needs to be balanced with other social and economic risks, consequences, goals, and benefits to define a systemic policy response that makes logical sense and can be communicated to everyone in a way they can understand and support? And in this process the CDC is one voice not the owner and definer of Federal policy.

But the hospitals and doctors still report the main ICD10 diagnosis code as Z20822, "exposure to or suspected exposure to COVID" because of the higher insurance reimbursement rates. Like Steve Martin in the Jerk said "its the profit game!"

I think a lot died from disappointment and boredom because the replacement product sucked..

This is a link to CDC that shows death data by age group https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics Most recent CDC numbers posted 0-4 6% of US population reporting 174 deaths out of 621,142 cases 5-11 8.7% of the US population reporting 128 deaths out of 1,191,163 cases 12-15 5.1% of the US population reporting 140 deaths out of 1,072,722 cases 16-17 2.5% of the US population reporting 100 deaths out of 736,879 cases 18-29 16.4% of the US population reporting 2,873 deaths out of 6,442,941 cases 30-39 13.5% of the US population reporting 6,452 deaths out of 4,712,602 cases 40-49 12.3% of the US population reporting 15,585 deaths out of 4,222,224 cases 50-64 19.2% of the US population reporting 78,016 deaths out of 5,713,127 cases 65-74 9.2% of the US population reporting 109,531 deaths out of 2,093,583 cases 75-84 4.9% of the US population reporting 138,492 deaths out of 1,077,464 cases 85+ 2% of the US population reporting 155,958 deaths out of 614,552 cases

I think the answer is: 1. renounce your US citizenship 2. apply for citizenship in some Central America country for something like $50 3. take a flight to Cabo 4. enjoy a couple weeks of vacation time 5. head for the US border and declare yourself an asylum seeker 6. get picked up by customs and transferred to DHS 6. get released by DHS 7. go back home, enjoy life, pick up some free benefits, and then do whatever you want without any restrictions mandated and demanded of US citizens 8. you can still vote, work, drive, own property, get medical care and education for free as the administration has eliminated all benefits and rights of being a US citizen

You make a lot of great points. And I agree with most of it. But I think from the beginning defeat in Afghanistan was inevitable. Its not called "the graveyard of empires" for nothing. Its essentially a tribal society without any real concept of a powerful central government. Defining one and setting it up based on some model of democracy was bound to fail. And most of the "hostiles" just went over the border to Pakistan just waiting it out moving in and out of the country when required. Once the primary mission was completed the decision should have been made to split. But the DOD and the Pentagon never let a good opportunity to expand the defense budget go to waste. So 20 years later an epic fail and in steps China and Russia. Who could have seen that coming? I have concluded US Middle East policy is based on the maintenance of "chaos", support for the State of Israel, and the continuation of the PetroDollar system of trade settlement in the oil markets. In fact, I'd suggest that maintaining the global reverse and trade settlement status of the US Dollar is the fundamental objective of US foreign policy. Its the system that creates foreign demand for US treasury paper and dollars. Its the privilege to "print money" that no other country has. Its the privilege that allows the US Congress and Presidents to pass multi-trillion dollar deficit spending bills without having to worry about where all that money comes from. The reserve/trade settlement system is something Iran, Iraq, Libya and just about every other country that gets attacked or sanctioned has or is trying to remove themselves from participation. It something the Saudi's still support. That support is enhanced by US "protection" of the monarchy and the monarchies decisions to spend some $50B on defense spending. A little less than what Russia spends. This arrangement is just a traditional protection racket. The US government protecting Saudi interests by refusing to declassify incriminating 9/11 information is one example of an element of this arrangement. A government protecting a foreign government and its citizens that have committing terrorist and criminal acts against its own citizens. What democratic government would do that? So US foreign policy is simply "follow the rules we set or else". If you don't then political, economic, and if necessary either direct or indirect force through either the military or intelligence agencies will be applied to your nation and government and the most likely outcome will be the people currently in charge will be out of a job soon. So while I agree with the Imperialism view who is calling the shots in the US? Its not the political parties or the administration in power. If you look at the political views of the Trump administration vs. the Biden administration you'd expect to see some tangible difference in their foreign policy approach. But you don't. In fact you see Biden's budget proposals actually looking to increase defense spending above what Trump budgeted. This appears in conflict with the "progressive" nature of the administration. As they have no problem blowing up people of color on the international front and yet present themselves as the champion of minority rights domestically. People are people no matter which side of the line on the map they stand on. But policy never changes from one administration to another no matter the spot on the political spectrum those administrations represented. And truth be told, Trump wasn't impeached and harassed for 4 years because of some ethical, moral, or legal violations of law and the constitution. He was harassed because he threatened the power of this establishment and pushed for policy change they saw as a threat to their agenda and power. So there's an underlying force controlling the government and policy. Some call it the establishment or the deep state. Who's behind it all? Some say the 1% or the .1%, the Davos crowd, Soros's NWO. Me, I can't say I am sure. I'm interested in getting some perspectives on this. What also seems strange is the current left supports this Imperialist model by bringing it home and imposing it on the domestic population. There doesn't seem to be any issues or moral and ethical questions about imposing restrictions and punishment for non-compliance on US citizens through unilateral and undemocratic edicts and proclamations through the executive branch via executive orders or agency pronouncements. So how can that be reconciled with their expressed woke and social justice views as "domestic imperialism" seems just fine to them.

Umm.. what, what? The vaccine doesn't protect you from getting infected but instead lessens the risk of a serious illness. And it allows it to replicate in your respiratory system so if you're vaccinated you can develop a large viral load and pose just as big a risk of spreading the virus as an un-vaccinated person.

Just look at the people doing the reporting and that answers the question about why its critical to the story in some cases and not in others. These reporters, politicians, tweeters and others that make conditional statements that include or exclude race when its convenient for them to do so just have no moral and ethical standards.

The unspoken truth is they are well-compensated sell out's that surrender all moral and ethical principles and standards for cash and other compensation. They have no original thoughts and such things as independent thought and logic are discouraged in their social circles. All that needs to be done is look who signs their check and there it is. Their views packaged and provided by a member of the %1 elite club in charge.

I'd say public confidence and faith in the Doctor and the government is shot at this point as most have concluded their approach is based on a trial-and-error strategy rather than a strategy based on sound reasoning backed by medical facts. I've made my peace with the idea that whatever they do it isn't going to change the outcome. Whether you're vaccinated or not, healthy or not, hiding in the house or not, old or young, you are either going to get an asymptomatic, mild, moderate, severe, or critical case of COVID and we'll live or die depending on our own unique health and age and anything the government or the science says or does isn't going to change that from happening.

That's generally a true statement. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the ruling class, their disregard for the law while holding all others accountable, their disguise true intents, and the stupidity of those that worship and enable their crimes.

I suggest we worry more about Biden administration sponsored acts of terrorism that violate and ignore immigration law (impeachment anyone?) while intentionally spreading the virus across the country by releasing COVID infected non-citizens (criminal charges anyone?) free to move about unimpeded while legal citizens are locked down and subject to all kinds of restrictions and discrimination as Obama and his elitist's party like there's no tomorrow in a display of obvious nauseating contempt and elitism. Which symbolizes for all to see everything about the true nature of the political left. Phony posers sucking cash and blood out of the middle and working class. The real virus that needs to be eradicated is the elitist fascist population disguised as "fake" liberal progressives. This guy Jeff Clark. Who cares? He can't spread the virus to any of us, can he?

I thought the solution pushed by the political activists crowd demanding police de-funding was that community organizers and conflict de-escalation experts would be deployed in Urban areas like Chicago. They could better handle these confrontations in the streets with their methods and the trust gang members and other potential violent actors would have because their presence would remove the element of racism from community policing. And in the end they'd demonstrate police weren't needed to stop this violence and there is a better way to handle crime. So how's that working so far? No so good it seems. For one thing, community organizers and conflict de-escalation experts look to be smart enough to know if they show up their they'd get their asses shot off. And the gangs don't care much for anyone but their members, black, white, Hispanic, or any race at all. So what Chicago has now is a completely demoralized police force, no activist actions, gangs ruling the streets and sections of the city, a totally incompetent Mayor, and lots of shootings. And another example of successful leftist activism at its best! Other than a resounding victory for transsexual bathroom rights is there anything these clowns touched that hasn't gotten worse?

Those big speaking fees and book deals are just payback for favors done while in office. But what I really can't wrap my head around is the concept that there are that many people interested in reading or hearing a self-serving version of events written or told by these former elected and unelected officials irrespective of their political affiliations.

I saw a recent interview of CDC director Walensky with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. She said with Delta a vaccinated asymptomatic person can carry the same viral load as an unvaccinated asymptomatic person. This means the vaccinated and unvaccinated person presents the same exact level of risk to others. So if the only difference is the risk assumed by the individual that is unvaccinated vs. the vaccinated person but the risk both pose to others is equal then what's the point of vaccine passports and discriminatory polices? As the vaccine protects the vaccinated person but presents no protection to anyone else in the presence of the vaccinated individual. As its possible for all the vaccinated people to pass the infection to others, all the assumptions behind these polices are false. Which means is as long as your vaccinated that's all you need to worry about. Per the CDC.

For a political party that has recently made a habit of ignoring the law when its convenient while also doing an about face and insisting others be held accountable for their "crimes" when it serves their needs, this is slightly more than comical as they attempt to litigate this absurdity.

The first time I see you giving a straight answer to somebody's question here or when the government proves something with a jury rendering a guilty verdict on a charge like insurrection or treason in a Federal or DC court I'll let you know. Whichever comes first. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for either of those things to happen.

You missed nothing but more sobbing and crying from our elected officials.

If you apply critical thinking and logic with a dose of skepticism while questioning authority and holding them accountable then nobody can control you. If you do this then you're in control of your thoughts and ideas and more than capable of independent and original thinking to form opinions and beliefs. Basically what the neo-liberals believe is people are not capable of original thinking. That's false premise. Original and independent thinking are some of the traits that make America unique. Its a primary driver of progress and invention. That's my answer to that bolded question. The media faces a few big problems the first of which is that if they lie to me unfortunately I can't trust them. Most Americans feel this way now. Another big problem is peer-to-peer communications like this board and social media platforms have rendered their traditional methods of top-down hierarchical organization for controlling and censoring the "news" obsolete. And at this point they've resorted to outright censorship and suppression of anything that doesn't support their narratives. Its so obvious everyone knows. Their grip on news and information is so shaky that honestly I'm more inclined now to "believe" what they censor more than what they let pass through. They have lost all control and like a drowning man are thrashing around back and forth trying to stay alive. Their credibility is shot. When I need a good laugh during the day I find myself tuning in to CNN or some other media outlet for some comic relief. Who needs Comedy Central when you've got Rachel Maddow? Is she still looking for Russians? Those people can't possibly believe all the crap they're spewing, can they? How they can keep themselves from gut-busting laughter on the set is a testament to their self-control.

Well then prove it! Let's see the DOJ and the FBI take it all up in a court of law, have the prosecution present its case, allow the defense to counter, present its evidence, cross-examine government witnesses, and then let a jury decide the outcome along with a judge passing sentence. But so far the government's strategy is to use intimidation and coercion on individual suspects to enter a guilty plea in exchange for a lighter sentence through plea bargaining agreements. I don't recall a single shred of evidence being presented in any case much less anything that might meet the legal threshold of suggesting or proving conspiracy. So instead they set up this phony commission and stack it will House members supportive of the governments claims. There's not a single member of this committee than can be considered potentially unfriendly or hostile to the government's objectives of finding what they have already pre-judged in the media and statements to date. Those that might cause trouble were rejected by Nancy. And the idea Liz Chaney's presence makes it bi-partisan is a joke everybody sees. What this committee does is give the prosecution a platform to make their case while denying the defense any opportunity to cross-examine witnesses or present a counter-argument. The idea here is to simulate a "legal" forum while denying the defense any opportunity to present their side. A couple weeks ago we saw compelling testimony from 4 Capitol Police officers about what they experienced. It was great theater. But as not a single member of the committee asked, or was allowed to ask, any direct questions that might challenge or refute their statements and testimony. It presented one perspective of a story that has many prospective to it. Along with this we were subject to what seems to be a perpetual display of nauseating, dramatic, and pitiful sniveling and crying from House members. If I didn't know they were faking I'd be worried about how weak and emotional our House members are here. Pathetic acting that the Academy will surely not be nominating for any awards this Fall. P.S. If you're at Barrack's party having a great time today its okay if you don't respond right away. I understand. But try and save me a piece of cake.

Are you telling me that you didn't get invited either? I guess it was only Tibs and Billsy that got one. LOL..

But so far all that proves is the intent of specific individuals to partake in violence rather than some massive collusion and conspiracy of the protest group to take over the government. Conspiracy and insurrection? That's still a big leap from what proof and evidence has been provided. So far all they can prove is a couple guys intent on causing trouble.