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Fauci needs to resign or be fired. Facts have proven him to be a liar. He lied to Congress, he lied to the public. This isn't a political issue. Its one of credibility. How does anyone expect the public to line up and support policy if the mouthpiece for it all is a fraud. And perhaps a guy that had a hand in unleashing COVID on the world? Sadly, a resignation or firing is unlikely as our leadership is both clueless and unaccountable. Over time the government and almost every other social institution has become dysfunctional and ineffective. Fauci is symptomatic of that dysfunction. And traditionally in our Constitutional form of government the government exists solely for the purpose of serving its citizens. If its not doing that then it has no purpose. We're getting real close to that point where a different vision of where the citizens exist solely for the purpose of serving the government is taking hold. The last one looks to be where all these officials and would-be dictators with all kinds of restrictions and edicts are lining up. Which one you believe tells which side of the struggle you sit on.
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
All_Pro_Bills replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
For the record, I'm not on Twitter or Facebook. And I generate my own conclusions using inputs from various sources of information. Some of which I agree with and some which I don't. And given my job I have access to what's likely the largest private collection of health care data and analytics including about a year and a half of COVID patient information. I'd say that makes me pretty well informed along with searching and researching publicly available sources like the CDC. One of several government and private organizations my work team happens to support. Also for the record I am vaccinated but I'm also aware of the limitations that provides. And apparently the CDC agrees with me as they have determined vaccinated people can spread the virus, have high viral loads, become infected, and get sick just the same as the un-vaccinated. I have yet to see any study or data that specifies the viral load reduction in vaccinated and un-vaccinated so if you've got a source I'd be interested. I'm not arguing against vaccines here. Or any specific measure. What I am arguing about is inconsistent and ineffective social and medical policies that conflict with known facts and the officials that refuse to adjust their edicts based on the availability of new information. As I've concluded vaccination alone will not stop the outbreak (look at Israel for example) I can only conclude they care more about getting everyone vaccinated than they do with stopping the virus. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
All_Pro_Bills replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Yes, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky made that admission on a CNN news interview a few months back. This from MSN. "The viral load of vaccinated people with breakthrough cases is the same as in unvaccinated people, the CDC said Friday." So where's the logic in restrictions on just the un-vaccinated? Playing the odds maybe? Or just shooting in the dark? Or has the goalpost been moved and rather than keeping vaccinated people from getting sick the goal is now to keep them from getting seriously sick? Has there ever been such a thing with vaccines ever before? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-report-shows-vaccinated-people-can-spread-covid-19/ar-AAML2bE I keep preaching it over and over and over that we what's needed is an effective anti-viral to complement the vaccines but that idea seems to have little support among the people making all the rules here. More than being oblivious to the concept they appear to be resisting it. Protecting the host from severe inflection while allowing the virus to multiple and mutate using the host isn't going to get the job done. Unless the vaccine stops the virus from replicating, which apparently these vaccines don't, then vaccinating everyone isn't going to end this or get it under control without a lot of unintended consequences like ultimately producing some killer variant. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
All_Pro_Bills replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The problem here is all these policies are based on false assumptions or premises. False premises known to organizations like the CDC. False assumption #1. Vaccinated people can't get the virus. Fact is they can and they do either because the vaccine did not "work" for them or the immunity it provided is wearing off over time. False assumption #2. Vaccinated people can't spread the virus. Fact is they can because the vaccines are not good at controlling viral load. And an individual with a viral load, vaccinated or not vaccinated, is a potential spreader. -
Biden fumbles pandemic cure
All_Pro_Bills replied to Over 29 years of fanhood's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It appears to have worked in India. Curiously, the demise of the Delta variant there coincided with the use of the cheap, plentiful, and easy to produce medication. In Indian States where it was used the case rates plummeted while in States where it wasn't they continued to rise. The course of treatment was when a family or household member tested positive all the household members would be put on the treatment. To prevent the infection more than to treat it. Evidence and results suggest that strategy may have been the solution there as the Delta outbreak is under control. Not so much in the U.S. it seems. But who gets rich off a 50 cent solution to the outbreak? Not the exec's at Pfizer that's for sure. Or the big hospital systems. Or the politicians spreading fear to gain power. Now I don't know for sure whether the "horse de-wormer" turned the tide of the outbreak in India or if it was some other factor. But what's funny is how in the U.S. all the low cost potential solutions are so easily dismissed and discredited while the most expensive and complex solutions are always pursued. In the investment world the concerns about the vaccine producers was that the revenue and profits were one shot events because after everyone is vaccinated that's it. But now booster shots! Problem solved! And apparently all the useful idiots, being the least informed people on the planet, would prefer to mock and casually dismiss potential solutions and advocate for the big pharma companies and continue with all sorts of social restrictions rather than take a serious look at alternatives. I find the lack of curiosity and willingness to entertain alternatives disturbing. Along with a conclusion that we're being led by narrow minded intellectual bigots and idiots. If we had leaders that were capable of actual intelligent thinking the problem would be over by now. -
Or ask Clinton or Gates. We can go on naming names of people involved across the political and social spectrum but that's not my point. This issue transcends politics and shouldn't be trivialized by it.
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The question with Epstein isn't about involvement of Trump or Clinton. The question is why is the media and the legal community, both private and public prosecutors, taking such a "hands off" approach to what is clearly sexual abuse and exploitation of young women? Where is the Me Too movement on this? Feminist groups and women advocate organizations? Where are the investigations? Hearings? Leaks of names on "the list"? Questioning and arrest of others involved? Why is Epstein untouchable even in death? Was it true that he was a Mossad operative blackmailing US officials and powerful men? I hear more about the Brittaney Spears legal battles with her father than I do about this topic. This all seems quite suspicious. The fact heads aren't rolling is telling. Who's giving the orders to bury the subject?
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The way the question is phased obviously biases the survey (would anyone approve of a botched plan?) but overall I'm still trying to process the idea that anyone paying attention to what transpired here can in any way "approve" of the way the withdrawal was performed or rationalize that it was executed well. I expect a better question is "do you think the withdrawal event will have any adverse consequences for US foreign policy and its relations to its allies and foes going forward"? IMO the way it went down makes the U.S. look weak and feeble. Which is perhaps a reflection on our current leadership. For me this marks a clear beginning of the end for the Empire and everyone should prepare accordingly.
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The American Media Should Not Be Trusted
All_Pro_Bills replied to SCBills's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Truth is "fact checking" is a polite term for censorship. Anything that conflicts with the consensus view of experts or the censor's disposition on the topic is false. Which logically is absurd. It assumes they somehow know all absolute truth and facts. More BS. As most censors are clueless idiots motivated by politics or some ideology. The idea that critical thinking, discovery, investigation, and additional knowledge can change the known facts and conclusions is somehow lost. Go back several hundred years. The expert view was the Earth was flat, all objects in the Solar System revolved around the Earth, and the Earth was the center of the Universe. Somebody posts a tweet the the Earth is a sphere, all the planets revolve around the Sun, and the Earth is not the center of the Universe. The poster's account is suspended and labeled as "This is mis-information that conflicts with the prevailing expert consensus view". -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
All_Pro_Bills replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
If you're an Australian just throw your iPhone in the garbage. Tracking problem solved. Buy a burner with cash and use that to communicate. All that should be legal, right? At least for now.. -
What I'm eager to hear about is the thought process behind the idea that a Summer high school trip to Afghanistan was a good idea. Pandemic, unstable government, war zone, those kinds of things. I suspect its the "nobody could have seen this coming" excuse.
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The American Media Should Not Be Trusted
All_Pro_Bills replied to SCBills's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Well, now that CNN has given Biden a severe tongue lashing they can get back on message about the real menace.. the white supremacist threat fantasy. With delusional statements like "White supremacist and anti-government extremists have expressed admiration for what the Taliban accomplished, a worrying development for US officials who have been grappling with the threat of domestic violent extremism." US officials meaning the imbeciles and idiots running policy. I guess if you consider expressing contempt and disgust at the less than stellar evacuation conducted by the administration then sure, let's call it "admiration". Of course the Prez cites the extraordinary efforts of the administration and the military in carrying out the mission. Some of which is true but given their own incompetence in creating the need for an emergency evacuation mission its a situation hardly worthy of praise. Like somebody started the house on fire and managed to put it out after just burning up the kitchen. By this definition they're a real hero.. -
Good points. I need to remember to never under-estimate the value of bribe-able and corrupt third world political leadership (or maybe political leadership in general?).
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The American Media Should Not Be Trusted
All_Pro_Bills replied to SCBills's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
When I hear media calls demanding the House and Senate form select committees and have standing committes investigate the withdrawal, call witnesses, and hold specific people accountable and demand they step down I'll agree with you. I expect to be waiting until the end of the world for that to happen. Tell me I'm wrong? And if you want to play the Trump card. If Trump was still running the show its 100% certain they'd be calling for impeachment hearings already. And looking for collusion with the enemy. And the other usual BS. Can you honestly say that wouldn't be where we'd be right now? But lambasting? Not really the descriptive word I'd use. More like jumping up-and-down on the living room sofa than burning down the house. Token resistance for the purposes political theater. -
My expectation is China will fare no better than Russia or America here. The Chinese will "make nice" at the start with all kinds of investments and incentives which the Afghans will accept. Then they'll seek to exploit the resources of the country. But won't stop there. They'll embark on a mission to colonize the country similar to what they're doing, with few paying attention to what's happening, in parts of Africa. Moving 100's of thousands, millions of Chinese citizens into the country while building segregated and gated Chinese cities. Pushing the native inhabitants out of the picture. Eventually the locals, the Taliban, and the war lords will get sick of the Chinese and work to expel them. Give it a couple years. And to top it off I wouldn't be at all surprised if at some point the US intelligence services and the military through discreet and secret arrangements becomes a silent "partner" with the Taliban when it comes time to take it to China here. Part of the idea is that before taking on China directly the US will need to engage in a few proxy wars to assess and understand their capabilities in live fire settings and this might be one of those opportunities. As the US through its actions has already provided that recon info to China.
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Abortion Basically Illegal In Texas Now
All_Pro_Bills replied to Tiberius's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So the Texas law is using the private sector to do the dirty work? Where I wonder did they come up with that idea? Sounds to me the thinking is along the lines of the way the Fed's are using private businesses to enforce vaccine mandates. Although I have no strong opinion on the abortion issue I disapprove of the use of the private sector tactic in both cases but I suspect a lot of people that are having fits about the abortion legislation have no issue with enforcing vaccine mandate in a similar manner or visa versa. -
This guy's a teacher? When I saw this I thought he was a meth addict. Standards have sure dropped since I went to high school. Seems to me just another "radical" poser spouting the same old slogans and speeches while enjoying all the benefits of public employment preaching about overthrowing and removing said government employer which doesn't make you much of an anarchist. More pampered white liberal intellectual and academic horse crap which is the core demographic for this nonsense. We need to stop breeding this idiots..
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Whether or not Trump did right or wrong during his time in office does not absolve Biden from taking responsibility or criticism for screwing up here.
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I'm sure that will comfort the families of soldiers and civilians that died because of the administration's incompetence. And frankly, a Monkey sitting in a tree scratching his balls could have done it better than Biden. On the execution of the evacuation plan I mean, not the ball scratching part. I expect Joe has him beat on the second one.
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Or more likely historians will point to the event as a "Waterloo" moment. The event catalyzing the loss of US power and influence in international affairs followed by a drastic transfer of world power and wealth from the West to the East.
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Trump left 2,500 US troop in Afghanistan for operational support for ground missions and air cover to Afghani government forces. While operating in-country air support missions from Bagram. At that point these US troops had no specific combat mission operations other than the above mention support role. This US force enabled the Afghani forces to keep the Taliban at bay, a sort of equilibrium. The biggest blunder of the Biden administration was pulling these troop out first and closing the air base. This disrupted the equilibrium and pushed the advantage to the Taliban which quickly took advantage of the opportunity. Within weeks it was over. You'd expect an average idiot would have seen that coming but not this crew. The fact they've got no self-awareness is another big problem. What's more galling than the complete failure of this withdrawal is the lengths the administration is going to by insisting it was some kind of raging success. So either they are lying or delusional. Take your pick. Neither is good. And the idea that "nobody could have seen this coming" is just unacceptable. Unacceptable. We spend something like $70 Billion a year on intelligence agencies of all shapes and forms. Its more than the entire Russian military budget. And that $70B gets us what? A "nobody could have seen this coming" excuse? I don't want to hear any excuses I want accountability. So where do all those resources and funds go? Surveillance operations on single mothers in the Mid-West expressing concerns on school masking policies? I'll wager some intelligence asset or analyst inside the CIA or some other agency assigned to Afghanistan operations knew exactly what was going to happen and was ignored. Somebody screwed up here. Somebody dropped the ball. Somebody wouldn't listen. Somebody wouldn't speak up. And people died and now the US looks like some kind of clown car operation to friends and foes. If they were worried about bad optics they've got bad optics. Biden's empty speeches about a successful withdrawal would be comical if the situation wasn't so tragic. Is he really that clueless? Somebody needs to go before they "F" up the next assignment and get more people killed. And if Biden won't pull the trigger and fire these incompetents then he's put the bullseye right on the problem. Himself.
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
All_Pro_Bills replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Completely incorrect. Just look at countries with high vaccine rates. There's no correlation to that and low case numbers. The fact that booster shots are being pushed at 6 months confirms the limited duration of immunity. 6 months. And there's a need for a viral killer. The current approach is never going to work.. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
All_Pro_Bills replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Well a large Israeli study did find that "natural" immunity was 13x more effective against the delta variant than the vaccines. And we know the vaccines don't kill off the virus so both vaccinated and un-vaccinated people can carry a viral load capable of passing on the infection. Which can make vaccinated people a seemingly healthy walking virus incubator and spreader. So yes, the fact you might have a vaccine passport is not equivalent to you being incapable of passing on the virus. Given the Israeli government seems to be ignoring this study I'm certain the US government will too. The effective way to ensure a person doesn't carry the virus is through testing. If you look at countries that have gotten the virus under control its because of vigorous testing, and contact tracing which seems pretty much non-existent here. And given there are tests approved through EUA by the FDA that are self-administered and produce a result in around 15 minutes we should be taking advantage of that and doing more testing. Like checking school kids at home in the morning several times a week before school to prevent school outbreaks and closings. And keeping a focus on utilizing virus killing treatments that are either available or in P3 trials. A few of which appear to be "game changers" but get completely brushed off and ignored in the press and officialdom. I can only presume its because such a treatment would disrupt their vaccine focused approach. And as we know questioning experts is now forbidden. I can't understand why its not crystal clear to everyone, especially the people running the show here, that just vaccinating everyone is not going to stop the virus or end the pandemic. You need both immunity and you need to kill off the virus. But the vaccines don't provide long-term immunity or stop infection. They provide limited protection against serious illness for a limited amount of time. The vax is really equivalent to a pre-treatment. I feel its dishonest that all the people in charge insist to continue calling it a vaccine. And ignore many "experts" that frankly have more credible arguments and logical conclusions than they do. And while its certain that these "vaccines" are useful and effective for what they can do they are not delivering what was originally advertised. Which is the idea that by immunizing everyone so we can return to normal. -
Governor... just a bit delusional, don't you think? For one Trump's "deal" with the Taliban was conditional. Conditions the Biden administration ignored. Second, a near perfect mission that was unnecessary given the presence of a valid and rational withdrawal strategy. Third, any suggestions that Trump bares responsibility for the disaster is preposterous given the fact the administration has not hesitated to overturn every other policy of the previous administration. Except of course this one they claim. If they didn't like the "plan" or the deal they could have changed it like everything else. They didn't. So they own it plain and simple, whatever they claim it was here. Sure Joe delivered. But what Joe delivered was equivalent to ordering a 20 oz, Ribeye at a five star steakhouse and having the waiter bring you a bag of dog poop. Right, Joe delivered. A hot steaming pile of a mess. A perfectly incorrectly executed withdrawal plan.
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
All_Pro_Bills replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
"If you have the vaccine you can still spread the virus." That's pretty much it. What it implies is your vax status of "vaccinated" is not equivalent to posing no threat to others. Your viral load is the issue. And people either vaxed or not vaxed can still carry a viral load capable of infecting others. Just what the specific risk either poses is unclear to me. But there is a risk in either case. But all the government cares about is vaxing. A program on its own that is guaranteed to fail in stopping the spread of the virus and its variants. So in 2030 I'll be on my 19th booster shot wearing a mask at the supermarket. And the host at the local restaurant will greet you with asking "what would you prefer, COVID or non-COVID seating?" The problem is when you mix politics and science you get politics. And the objective of vaxing everybody is not equivalent of or synonymous with stopping the virus. That's where we're at here now. At some point we need to invoke common sense.