billsfan714

The Bills dont do the red zone....its the dead zone.

I always wondered how the Syracuse offense would do in the NFL.

If Im Pegula Im tellin Marrone if you want to coach next year Nate has to go.

Our screens are telegraphed.

Everybody on O getting in on the act of destroying any momentum.

Lets go pack D who I just picked up.

Maybe these guys want to win now, end the culture of failure. That we aren't playing for next year. I find it refreshing.

When you have the 2nd lowest QBR out of 33 QBs, it was time for change, he wasnt progressing. It's a fact.

Tell me what receiver was traded for 2 no. 1s. It was a huge gamble and if they dont win this year I dont think it will be a plus on his resume. Plus he was involved with Nix drafting EJ. I pretty much agree with Billsvet, the Dougs are trying to save their jobs with new ownership coming.

And I just changed my signature line....guess there are people at 1 Bills drive that know football.

I wonder how often they had the lead, especially at home, another factor in determining how much you are going to throw.

Jesus you're actually saying the pick six to Watt wasnt a poor throw or decision. Wow...just wow.

Well there is this tweet on the front page. "EJ Manuel now has a 19.8 QBR on the season, 32nd among 33 qualified quarterbacks. Only Chad Henne has been (was?) worse." So since Henne is no longer starting, Im not so sure.

I was going to post this yesterday myself, and I just re-read the FSU scouting report. It's dead-on. Reluctance to run, is fast but not quick....his longest run this year is 8 yards, I think Peyton Manning might have that beat. Struggles to take the the short choppy steps to move in the pocket, spins out instead. Doesnt throw receivers open. inaccurate....he's hitting throws to his WRs at a 33% rate the last 2 weeks. Internalizes criticism, thinks about one thing forgets to do another. Doesnt recognize blitzes well...doesn't sense pressure....slow through his reads....struggles to read coverages. But he is big and didn't get in any trouble at FSU. People on here always have to have somebody on the OL to make their poster boy for why our O isnt awesome. Yeah Watt got a lot of pressure yesterday, you know what...he had a great year last year too and 14 teams beat the Texans last year. And please quit thinking teams are worried about EJ running because they aren't, because 1 he doesnt do it and 2 hes not good at it...he doesnt have the quickness or acceleration of a Wilson, Kap and Cam. Fitz averaged 1.7 more yards per rush than EJ last year(5.2 for Fitz---3.5 for EJ, Tannehill averaged 6.0 yards per attempt in 2013, and Nick Foles put up 3.9. Still think EJ is some runner defenses have to gameplan for?

Nobody can argue with that, so sick of people saying he will be ruined some how if he sits for a while.

We haven't had one of those record games like we had in the past. You know like, giving up 300 yards rushing and passing in the same game or losing a game with the Jets having the most penalty yards since some team called the Yanks or something. The run defense has been a bright spot.

I've said it before but EJ is Jason Campbell 2.0. The games he can win are when you run for 150-200 yards, your defense gets you a few turnovers and even then the game will probably be close. Surrounding him with weapons--our runningbacks and receivers is like glueing a bunch of plastic/ground effects on a Chevy Cavalier---it looks OK but its still a Cavalier, its not a sports car. And EJ is not an NFL QB you are going to win with.

I agree, EJ plays scared. Compare Fitz's scramble to anything you've seen from EJ. The passes still have the float/he's aiming them look to them. He's not only inaccurate but he doesnt see the field well. He lacks situational awareness. It isnt fair to the other players who busted their ass all off season to waste the season hoping Manuel gets better. The D shutdown their running game--again....produced turnovers and we still lose. There's one glaring reason and it needs changed.

Instead of "EJ basher", I prefer the term people who know football.

Cue Herm Edwards.........

+2

With regards to Gilmore and McKelvin, the next pro bowl either one of these former first round picks goes to....they'll have tickets.

EJ will be given the whole year to evaluate wether he is our future or not. That being said, here's what I see that I don't like: 1. His athleticism is vastly overrated. For a guy with a size similar to Cam, he doesnt have 25% of the athletic ability of Cam, Kap or Wilson. Watch those guys, especially Wilson, he usually decides to run very quickly, there isnt any hesitation, he see's the D is giving him the run and he takes it. The other 2 can use the read option to make up for what they lack as passers. They bring 500-800 yards rushing, but with EJ we have to be worried about him getting hurt as if he's some 38 year old Bledsoe not a 240lb, 24 year old. We have an inside handoff with no read or option. 2. I agree with what Jimbo said during the telecast, EJ needs to step into the throws, too often it looks like he's aiming it. 3. On the screens, he doesnt suck the D in enough, he throws it too quickly and its usually lofted too much, allowing the opposing team time to get to the RB. 4. He does have a little Trentative in him, too quick to go to the checkdown. But those dump offs help his completion %. 5. The deep ball is just not his strong suit, nor is throwing over the middle into tight windows......not good going forward. 6. Not sure about him going to his 2nd and 3rd options on routes, he does seem to frequently lock in on a guy. Also not sure about his situational awareness. So it seems if the D has a plus 2 or 3 in the turnover battle and we rush for close to 200 yards a game we can win with EJ. To that I say you can with just about anybody at QB. As for his development, what I want to see is a 350 yard 3 TD game and soon. Weve surrounded him with a good stable of RBs, the 1st WR in the draft, an early 2nd round WR and a 3rd WR who has put up 1000 yard seasons with double digit TDs. Chandler is adequate. This isnt your Daddy's NFL where blowing up the WR over the middle was a great play by the D, now its a hit on a defenseless receiver and the drive continues, defensive holding, blows to the head we all know about. I dont think putting up one of those games in asking too much. That would be development. The 225 yard, 1TD game....look at the box scores anybody can put up those numbers.

If you're going to run up the middle in the red zone, you better have a line that can push the pile and we seem to be lacking that. The throw over the middle into a tight window......not exactly EJ's wheelhouse. The corner fade usually seems to go OB. I know Marrone wants to limit the read option, and EJ doesnt keep it much. To me the place to use it and give the D something else to worry about it, is closer to the goalline. The one thing EJ has going for him over an elite QB is that hes young and supposedly athletic. He should be able to bring that advantage and do a couple of keepers or bootlegs like he did in Chicago. The time to risk the QB running is when 6 points is only yards away.

The Bills can definetly win this game. To me, the key is to bring the heat on Rivers. What separates Rivers from the truly elite QBs(Rodgers,Manning, Brees), is that he can put up a few absolute turd games. He's not the most mobile guy, he can force some throws where he can rack up some multiple INT games, and the way he holds the ball can lead to it being stripped. RATTLE RIVERS!!!!!