Over 29 years of fanhood

I applaud that sir. Having children should be a financial choice, not some obligation. The human race isn’t having difficulty proliferating. I don’t believe It’s some miracle that two people rub themselves together in a way that feels good and produce offspring. As I wash pollen off of my car I don’t vex over the miracle of procreation lost. The worst ‘ism’ to be born into in this world is parent or parents that don’t give a ***** about you.

I’m with you. Democrats spend our money and republicans lie and pretend they won’t and do it anyway. If I were in your shoes I wouldn’t care either. You get more out of the system then you put in and based on how you’ve described your situation don’t have personal Concern for the next gen. I’d in your shoes completely understand indifference to all of it. You’ve literally got nothing to lose.

Surely the proponents of the bill were completely unaware of this corner case..

no worries HR1 will fix this. 😉

Ever since blocking that troll bot, the quality of the board content has increased immeasurably. I smile every time I see you’ve chosen to ignore, because I know it’s 5 seconds Less of my life wasted on a total nothing.

How could you forget the deadliest most sinister insurrectionist “””cooooo- day taaaaaa””” attack in the history of humanity that I have to hear about 3 times a week 6 months later?

This is literally the most obnoxious thing about the alt left sheep. They seem to uphold the thing they hate as the comparative standard. woah that is trash, well the other trash was trashier

Ok, so how do you solve that? If the cop is not white is this the same outcome? and aren’t the escalators defined by quantity?

So say this is true what’s the solution?? What about all black police force? Will that work?

You don’t think non-violent priors impact sentencing?

You post a study that’s supposed to exemplify something with material holes and now it’s my problem?

Beliefs are for religion. I’m much more interested in facts, root causes and solutions than narratives and beliefs. When political apparatuses publish findings, it’s logical to be skeptical and there is glaring qualifier language around one of the biggest factors in actually determining sentencing. However, Sentencing disparity is illegal so if it’s real, people need to start getting disbarred. It should be very easy to hold individual judges accountable.

because it says there clearly… see that’s how they get you. They seem extremely careful to say “past violence” in multiple places not “past criminal history”. So hypothetically if you were busted four times selling heroin to 12 year olds, of course the fifth time the sentence is longer, but it’s not necessarily a parameter in the analysis they way they couch it, because it wasn’t past violence. Thus in this analysis a career non violent criminal looks just like a first time offender. Id like to see the same sentencing analysis for first time offenders. Or bucketed by same criminal history. That’s my point.

Half my family was subjected to genocide 80 years ago and came to this country paupers, all doing quite well for themselves, so I’ve got decent examples of how culture and values overcome oppressive history. Objectivity is the whole problem here, on that we agree. People look at race base disparity and perform a correlation equals causation exercise. Must be racism. Does anyone prove it? No. High profile murderous cop kills a man… and it’s racism. The prosecution did not once present any facts, argument, testimony or even suggest that the motive was anything other then being a calloced killer. The media also conspicuously hid the guy was in an interracial marriage. People of different skin colors are allegedly held down by our system… oh wait, but the average household income for families with Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Malaysian, Taiwanese roots is beating the incumbent whites in their own alleged system of oppression. Here is one, research how recent black immigrants fare in the US as compared to the average American. It’s quite well. How does the system allow? You can cast dispersions on those that are questioning un-proven sweeping spurious correlation in the hopes to reaching a real idea on how to make real problems better. But system is racist is an intentionally unsolvable political narrative to manifest power through division. Also I blame the wealth gap on single parent household, not race or gender. BTW - Daniel Patrick Moynihan predicted in the 60’s That the subcultural degradation of family values was going to lead to pervasive inequity.

I hope everyone in this thread reads this article. No i actually read the detailed report. So in conclusion they didn’t establish age bias as a key finding right? and all prior criminal history is omitted, that is illogical.

This is a fantastic thought. Since I personally view prejudice as an problem among individuals not a pervasive systemic issue, no one should have a problem looking at it by individual judge. If there is true a systemic issue, every judge should fail this test, correct?

Missed it, 25 yo and citizen vs non was summarized as well?

Yes not ‘all priors’, just specifically prior violent crime. I believe however all prior criminal history is considered in sentencing, Isn’t it? Maybe not, but I always thought so. They also omit from key findings summary that in the full report they establish statistically women receive far less time then men, and under 25 yo far more time than over 25. and no doubt predatory lenders are a real legitimate problem as you cite.

They seem to avoid that analysis by being extra specific. 🤔 wonder why?

That’s to me the real frustration of this whole systemic boogie man. It’s blaming everyone and no one at the same time and as a result frames a problem without a solution. The naive that mean well miss that this narrative is a divisive political instrument. The power mongers are happy to ignite a race war if polarization rallies up the votes they need. exactly- please try immersing yourself in diversity and stop letting politicians tell you how your world works. See it with your own eyes. Ask and learn. Stop believing cheap flimsy narratives. Free you mind, and the rest will follow.

Not my objective, just trying to point out the neo race war is ill founded and not bent on solving anything. It’s just politicians attempting to control the libs minds. We can line up poc that decoded this narrative for days to educate you.

Why is it all the “proof” is singular examples? BY DEFINITION that’s not systemic. thix topic continues to be a number of reasonable questioners and nobody who can articulate answers. gawd people see a race war being spurred by political elite?!!?

Yeah I think we are aligned, it’s just I’m suggesting it is by far the main cause of inequity. Lingering impact from the horrible things allowed to happen in the past I suggest, are a minimally impactful red herring.

Single parent households stand up statistically as a root cause of poverty way better than race. I know it deconstructs a liberal narrative, but it’s reality, and logically so. Break the cycle that incentivize single parent child bearing, drive home education that it’s an economically poor choice snd watch the inequity vanish. https://2date4love.com/single-mother-statistics/

Maybe, I think the only people ripped off by welfare are those paying for it. Some people really need it, some don’t and are just abusing the systems. You want to fix disadvantaged kids? Look no further then how many parents they have. That fact statically surpasses every other categorization you want to try. Why does that end up correlating to racial disparity??? Here is why. https://afro.com/census-bureau-higher-percentage-black-children-live-single-mothers/ Fix that and watch inequity vanish.