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serious?

Hardy and Johnson to this date have ran different routes. Hardy = JUMP Balls against DB Johnson = Dump offs against LB

OLE Mr. Wonderful -Bash the rookie. I wonder what you think of the Less then average players on the entire team. I would say this whole team is a Bust this year and DID nothing.

Not saying this was you but when Revis intercepted a poorly underthrown ball to Hardy, Bills fans actually blamed in on Hardy. Not Trent, or a good play on the Defense but on Hardy. OH well what you going to do.

People would rather Bash a Rookie WR who the QB will never throw to because of check down mode. I see several posters that say the Rookie is a bust but thank Parrish is the next best thing.

Thanks for clearing that up Heres a thought. Neither Trent or JP anticipate very well. How often do you see them throw the ball before the WR makes a cut. ONE of the main reasons the WR are so called "never open" is because the QB will wait untill the WR makes the cut. Once they make the cut, The DB covering just increased there percentage on making a play on that WR. Therefore look like they are being covered tightly. If the QB would leard to anticpate and have that extra step or two to work with then it would help out all the WR. Prime example is what Jaws was talking about on the MNF game this year. As far as Hardy, I think his route running and seperation has been not bad ever since the Miami Game. Turk said he was open twice and should of had two TDs against the Jets but was never thrown to. Needles to say, this offseason TRENT and Hardy will need to build some rapport with each other. He has only been thrown to 23-24 times and a lot of them where poorly thrown balls. He will learn to adjust to those throws as he bulks up a bit.

The hady bashers will nitpick at anything. Lets face it, if the coaches can not get him involved at least in the endzone then there is major problems. If a piss poor IU coach can find ways to make him get the ball then so can an average NFL coach.

OK Must comment. You pick apart everybody except for the QBs. Why is that. Thats funny. I mean you pick apart a Rookie in a play going to the opposite side of the field but yet you cant comment about the several poorly thrown balls to the WRs. I have been to several games. The WRs do get open but the bills have a scared momma at QB

another Hardy bash. Really is he the reason the Bills are and will be under .500. Anyway How can you tell on TV how Hardy did. They did not throw him the ball. This post is complete bogus. Sorry. I tried to watch again to see if I say what you saw and not even close.

Have you seen the colts that last few weeks without sanders. They have had a lot of players on the defensive side hurt this year and really have not skipped a beat.

Trent will not throw the ball before the WR makes a break. How many times to you see a timing route. Just wont happend. The WR will be open if Trent would throw the ball before the route breaks.

As a fan of Hardys yes please trade him. Buffalo and being coached by Juron is a place where stars die.

Were you at the game? I rewinded that Play several times and they show nothing but Marvin catching it. You are talking about the 4th down play right/

LOL Wow how about the non hands to to the face call on Freenie. How about the Screen pass where SD had all their lineman downfield.........LOL goes both ways

Then you must not like Parrish? Well Jackson might Florish in this offense now that Trent likes to check down 95% of the Time.

Took this from the Other Hardy post. Comments made by Tolbert. “You’ve got guys who haven’t even played that are rookies,” Tolbert said. “Some guys who are rookies have sparingly played and some rookies have played a lot. I think it’s different with every team and every particular individual. “We’re fortunate to have guys who can step in there and play and James can learn from those guys and kind of grow. He’s doing a good job of that. Nobody works harder than James on and off the field. He stays late, comes early. He has a laptop and he has all our cut-ups on it and he looks at it at home. Lee goes to his house and helps him study film. He works at it hard. It just takes longer than some guys than others.”

Read this. Get a clue before you speak. By Allen Wilson This is a tale of two Buffalo Bills rookie wide receivers. One, James Hardy, was a highly touted second- round draft pick. The other, Stevie Johnson, was a virtual afterthought who was lucky to even be drafted. While Hardy has occupied a higher spot on the depth chart, Johnson is gaining ground in a hurry. Johnson was a surprise starter Monday night against the Cleveland Browns instead of Hardy, who started the previous two games and three overall. Johnson also got more offensive snaps and finished with three catches and 41 yards. Although Josh Reed is expected to return Sunday, the coaching staff believes Johnson has earned the right to continue getting playing time. And based on what transpired Monday night, that playing time may come at Hardy’s expense. “[Johnson] has a good grasp overall of what we’re trying to do, so he gives us the best chance to go in there and make some plays,” said Bills receivers coach Tyke Tolbert. “Steve has kind of gotten ahead of him as far as the learning curve is concerned, so that’s why he got most of the reps in the game this past week. Although James got some reps as well, Steve got most of them because of his grasp of the offense.” Much was expected of Hardy. The Bills envisioned the 6-foot-5, 212-pounder would give them a big, physical complement to No. 1 receiver Lee Evans. But other than Hardy’s game-winning touchdown catch at Jacksonville in Week Two, big plays have been few and far between. He has only nine catches for 87 yards this season. His other touchdown was a garbage-time score at New England two weeks ago. He had started two straight games (three overall) before serving a limited backup role against Cleveland. “It was surprising, but you can only control the controllable and that was something I couldn’t control,” Hardy said of his diminished role Monday night. “Most of the plays that I’ve been out there I think I’ve done well. But evidently it hasn’t been enough. It’s a learning process. I just have to adapt, keeping working hard and get better.” Why has Johnson come along so quickly? His college background certainly helped. In the NFL, receivers must be able to read coverages and adjust their routes according to how the defense is playing them. Johnson did all of that at Kentucky, which ran a pro-style passing offense against top Southeastern Conference defenses. Hardy, on the other hand, didn’t play in a sophisticated offense at Indiana and ran routes regardless of the coverage. “It’s a lot of things he never had to do before he got here this year, and Steve did them all the time in Kentucky,” Tolbert said. “So that definitely has something to do with the maturation process of a wide receiver in the NFL.” It’s far too early to label Hardy a disappointment, however, according to Tolbert. “You’ve got guys who haven’t even played that are rookies,” Tolbert said. “Some guys who are rookies have sparingly played and some rookies have played a lot. I think it’s different with every team and every particular individual. “We’re fortunate to have guys who can step in there and play and James can learn from those guys and kind of grow. He’s doing a good job of that. Nobody works harder than James on and off the field. He stays late, comes early. He has a laptop and he has all our cut-ups on it and he looks at it at home. Lee goes to his house and helps him study film. He works at it hard. It just takes longer than some guys than others.” Johnson was inactive in five of the Bills’ first seven games and has made only four appearances. But it was obvious back in training camp that he had the skills to play in the NFL. And when Reed got hurt, Johnson took advantage of his opportunity. “Who knows how any game is going to go,” said Johnson, who has six catches for 72 yards this season. “Who would have thought I would be starting a game on a Monday night? Whatever package it is and I’m thrown in, I’ve got to be ready for it. Whether it’s the third quarter or fourth quarter of the game or starting the first and second quarters you’ve got to be ready no matter when your time is.” Johnson’s time almost didn’t come on draft day as 223 players were picked before the Bills grabbed him, even though he was a first-team All- SEC selection by College Football News after becoming the fourth Kentucky receiver to top 1,000 yards in a season (1,041). Though not as big as Hardy, Johnson has the size (6-2, 202) to shield small defenders and make plays on balls in the air. “I had a very high grade on him, much higher than where he got drafted,” Tolbert said. “We were fortunate that after we fulfilled our needs when we got to the seventh round he was still there. “I really like both of our rookies. They have a lot of upside and we’re excited about their future here.”

Sure. Not to mention He would be productive and people would get off his case IE Johnson

So if S Johnson takes Hardy's place on the outside, and run the deep routes and the many Jump ball attempts he would be out producing James? I got to see this. So if you take the LB that has been covering Johnson and put a DB on him, he will outproduce James? Great if it happends but I think Johnson would be in the same boat.

Bottom line is that Trent and Hardy are not on the same page. Hardy has been open several times and Trent has missed him. 3 were for scores. There is a LOT of Hardy bashing going on but someone is throwing the ball

If Trent continues to check down then Josh will average 8 catches here on out

What every St Johnson fan fails to realize is that he will benifit from Trents check downs thus JOsh Reed sucessful year to date. What all the Hardy bashers fail to realize is that his routes are totaly different then Johnson. You wont see Hardy in the flat or floating around in a zone on a 3 - 5 step drop.

Whats the big deal. Why you so defensive? Lets see........If your coach has any emotion, Im sure he would let you know when it happend. (San Fran Coach). Maybe not to the extent of Mike but at least show a little fire.

He was open wide as open on every ball thrown. I think he was the 3rd guy in each situation as TRENT Checked down.

Yeah. Lets blame the rookie for all 3 of Trents turnovers last night. How about the Jackson fumble. I think They should blame Hardy for that as well. He ran a poor route. Trent AGAIN under threw Hardy........and its Hardy's fault. Dam Rookies