Hapless Bills Fan

Warren Moon, Dan Marino, John Elway, Boomer Esiason, and Jim Kelly say "Hi" Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Rich Gannon, and Drew Brees send greetings You can't tell what will happen. In 2019, looked like Deshaun Watson would be terrorizing the AFC and keeping the Texans in it for a long time.

OK so guys on the PS who were not signed: DT Eli Ankou P Jamie Gillian OL Evin Ksiezarczyk QB Davis Webb RB Antonio Williams Olaijah Griffin is not reported as one of those 10 but signing was reported by Garafolo

So let me get this straight. You know that the Bills removed Breida from the offense, not because of what he did/didn't accomplish in practice; not because he had 26 carries for 125 yds which Math says is 4.8 ypc (that's ok but not great); 7 receptions for 72 yds; and a fumble lost against the Jets in November in addition to the fumbled handoff - but because inexplicably, those mean old stupid coaches benched him when he's the "best player on the team" because "Josh muffed a handoff to him" (and it was scored to Josh, even though former players working as analysts seemed to think it was Breida's fault). Meanwhile, McKenzie had 20 receptions for 178 yds which is 9 ypc, plus 9 rushes for 47 yds which is 5.2 ypc or more than Breida, and the same number of fumbles as Breida. But "he's nothing more than a gadget player" SMDH. Where is the logic? Now mind you, I'm not arguing McK is "some game changing playmaker", though I do think he's developed into a better slot receiver than he's getting credit for, and took over the rush plays to the outside that Breida had been tried on. But if you want to have a man-crush on an underutilized Bills player, it just seems strange to laud Breida to the skies as "the best player on the team with the ball in his hands" when his rush YPC were abysmal, McKenzie's were better, McKenzie had almost as many Y/R as Breida on 3x as many receptions, and 5 other receivers on the Bills had higher Y/R. Seems to me if one of them is JAG we won't miss, then the other is JAG^2 Are you Breida's mom or his agent or something?

Question: why do you think McD doesn't have strong input/oversight into the design of the defense?

I think the point is on a per-snap basis he was pretty durn productive and did some eye-popping things. I don't expect him to be offered a $6M/yr contract, but I think someone might offer him a $2-3M "prove it" deal with substantial guarantees, to see what he can do if he's given a broader role. Or a contract similar to what he had this year, but a multi-year deal with more signing bonus. I don't think he's going to get that from anyone. I don't think the Bills want him back unless they get him for what they offered this year - 1 year at minimum salary with minimal guaranteed. I think he may get offered more.

Oh, well, my Mom will be 90 this June. My FIL will be 91. Let's hope we win one in the next 2 decades.

I have to say that I have no idea how hard these losses are on players, but as I understand it, for players on successful teams, football is pretty much their life 6.5 days a week for 6 months a year in a way non-players really can't imagine. When dedicated, successful people put that much of their life into something, it hurts in a way the casual bystander can't possibly understand when it fails, even if they themselves have done everything they could to help the team succeed. I think it's one thing to lose a game where you're just overmastered and don't have a chance from the start, but to have it come down to the final 13 seconds of the game and then OT is just brutal.

It sounds as though there are multiple candidates:

It's a very good question. I searched for evidence that Bienemy and Spagnuolo were interviewing for HC jobs while preparing for playoff games the same way Daboll and Frazier did Bienemy apparently interviewed for the Broncos HC position on Friday. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/21/broncos-complete-interview-with-eric-bieniemy/ That's apparently his first HC interview vs. 3 for Daboll and Frazier. I think there are a few reasons for that. One is that Andy Reid is believed to be the driving force behind KC's play calling, so Bienemy perhaps gets less credit than he should. A second is that rumors say that Bienemy doesn't interview well, though for 2 - 3rd round picks one would think the Chiefs would send him to charm school and help him prepare better. A third is that he does have some baggage, in the form of a rap sheet going back to his days as a U of CO RB. That might be dismissable as "dumb thick headed teen/young 20s he's long grown out of, and experience that is helpful now to relate to young hot-headed players". The one that catches my eye is his 2001 DUI after he became a coach. He was 31 yrs old at the time, at which point you would like your potential coach to have grown past his useful hi-jinx.

Yeah? Where was Knox yesterday? Both had 4 targets/touches. McKenzie generated 2x the yards on them. Me, I feel McKenzie fills a very different role on the offense than Knox does, and that we need upgrades at both TE and WR. And it may be the Bills have someone in mind they plan to target for the KR/PR role as well as a slot/speed back WR, who they feel will be an upgrade to McKenzie

Dude, you may feel like his value at WR has not increased, but when a backup WR replaces a starter and goes off for a 92% catch % and 125 yds, >10 yds per catch, wouldn't you think that would catch the attention of pro personal guys around the league?

Ultimately, I think so

IMHO, McKenzie is one of those "replaceable" guys that the Bills keep trying to replace - and failing to find a better option. This season, Breida and Stevenson were supposed to replace him. How'd that work out?

He said similar "this could be Good-bye" type things last year, and wound up re-signing with Buffalo. But he may have been told things in his exit interview that imply the Bills don't see him as having a larger role as a receiver or as being given a shot to re-earn the returner role, and this season he really has done enough that he should earn more opportunity from another team.

He's a free agent. He's not been a star, he needs to take care of his future. If we offer him a good contract that's what he/his agent see as his market value, I believe he would probably stay But he can't take less. He's now put a hair-on-fire, 11/12 125 yd game on tape. And, he was I believe top in the league on return yards before we benched him. It's not unreasonable from how the Bills have used (or not used) him that his agent may feel he will get offers elsewhere that are valued in line with that, more than with the bit-player Buffalo seems to see him in.

Not sure this is a "hot take" but McDermott should have gone for it on 4th-and-1 in the 3rd Q Firing somebody to "send a message" is a pretty reactionary take. So is the "Somebodies head should roll" statement. Can you give one example of a time when these tactics actually proved effective? As for YAC - they're faster than we are, Man One more time: the unblocked Steeler who blocked that punt was NOT on Haack. And the unblocked 49er who blocked the Packers punt and FG was NOT on Bojo. Those were ST unit errors, not punter errors.

This. I don't think I've ever agreed with another thing you posted but...This. Brudda. 9 hrs later and I'm still there

Compare and contrast: respect

I think Diggs was pretty frustrated and wanted to hit something, but I think it was a risky move on his part

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The point is, if you don't give a *****, then presumably the thread is of no interest to you so you need not read it and comment.

What thread were you in when you chimed in thus? Apparently, you?

Apparently some have, and they’re out in force tonight

This is an interesting point - is there a “Fair catch” on a kickoff return?

Don’t wave straw men around by putting words in my mouth, and when I post responses on threads unless it’s obvious, don’t tell me I’m posting as a moderator ”biggest choker in modern history” is a pretty clueless take.