Hapless Bills Fan

Well, couple things here, Albany: 1) Dorsey may be at the head of your list, but it doesn't follow that Dorsey is at the head of Beane and McDermott's list for 1 main reason - he really doesn't have a lot of experience other than as a QB coach. Both McDermott and Beane worked with Dorsey in Carolina for 4 years as well as working with him here 3 years. They know him well, and should have a really good idea what his strengths are, and what his gaps are. It's entirely possible they don't feel Dorsey's gaps align with where they feel the offense needs develop, or that he's the right man to take them there. Maybe they feel he's a great QB with a gift for designing passing plays but really doesn't have a clue how to design run plays that integrate seamlessly so as to create doubt in the defense's mind. 2) I "get it" that you and others are firmly in the camp "whatever Allen wants, Allen should get". But step back a minute. Allen is 25 and has been in the league 4 years. By all reports, he's a helluva teammate who really loves his guys. That doesn't mean he's got a deep knowledge of NFL offensive schemes at this point. What Allen wants, may not be best - including for Allen. And Allen knows this right now - Allen has said in pressers this season "I have a helluva lot to learn" Beane and McDermott can not (figurately speaking) paste a giant poster of Allen on the wall of Beane's office and take the viewpoint "Whatever Josh Allen Wants is what's Best for the Franchise so That's What He Gets". That's what Howie Roseman reportedly did, and it was a Disaster for both Wentz AND the Eagles. Example of what I mean: Allen was quoted in 2019 saying to someone "people say we don't have enough talent at WR, they have no idea how good our guys really are!" about Brown and Beasley. So if we gave Allen his choice, maybe we don't trade a first for Diggs? But Beane knew we needed an upgrade at WR, someone who could set a new bar not just in his own play, but who could elevate the entire room. So he did trade for Diggs, and 2020 is History. Other things being equal between a potential OC that Allen already has a relationship with and would like to see in the job, vs a similarly qualified guy that Beane feels Allen would get along with, sure - take the known entity. But that's not necessarily the best thing to do for the team, or (in the long term) for Allen. Sure it does, but it's a two-edged sword. If Beane and McDermott want to see some change in the current offensive system, is the guy who has been in it for 3 years the best guy to make those changes? Maybe. Or maybe not, especially if his experience is otherwise limited. They need to talk to him, and talk to other guys, and then make up their minds. I have no idea what this sentence means. Internal minority candidates do not meet the criteria of the Rooney Rule. The candidates interviewed must be external to the organization.

Josh Allen QB should read this thread. This "Dad Joke" is in honor of his reported love of "dad jokes" Q: What do you call a snobby criminal walkind downstairs? A: A condescending con descending

Thanks. No not sarcastic, just haven't consumed enough coffee. I got my Mc's mixed 😁😅

Jeebus, I can't keep up. I thought the Raiders hired Mike McDaniel This is the biggest game of coach-search musical chairs I've ever seen. I hate to say this, but the best thing for Eric Bienemy, if he truly wants a head coaching job, would be to take a lateral move and become OC under a known defensive-minded HC. Part of his problem is that he's perceived (rightly or wrongly) as Andy Reid's dingleberry. The fact that Matt Nagy ultimately failed in Chicago and didn't develop his QB, and that Doug Pederson flamed out in Philly after an ugly denoument with Carson Wentz doesn't help his cause, even though Pederson did win a Superbowl first.

This x 1000. I haven't delved into the all-22, but it pissed me off that I didn't hear a word about Pat running backwards and taking bad sacks vs throwing it away and "that's one where he needs to settle down...just take an extra fraction of a second, get your mechanics right, and that's a completion". I guess it's the old "let a man get a reputation for being punctual, and he can sleep until noon" and its reverse. As for @Nihilarian, "Patrick Mahomes didn't give up the 21 points to the Bengals", well - he pretty much gave up 7. He threw a pass that BJ Hill deflected and intercepted on 2nd and 3 at his own 32 yd line. A more athletic defender takes that to the house for 6. 4 easy plays later, the Bengals score. Mahomes had open receivers at the sideline on either side a yard short of the sticks. Instead he chose to throw to a reasonably-well-covered Demarcus Robinson, right over the DLman who had no one positioned to hinder his pass-deflection efforts. It was poor situational judgement. It was 2nd down. If Mahomes throws to the sidelines, maybe those receivers make a move or put their shoulders down and get the 1st down. Maybe they don't, but now it's 3rd and 1 and a new set of play calls comes into consideration. Worst case they don't convert and the Bengals have to drive the length of the field instead of getting a gift-wrapped trip to the KC red zone.

Great post Coach A: 8 years as QB coach in the NFL 1 year as "passing game coordinator" in addition to QB coach Has never been an OC or called plays at any level Played QB (NFL and CFL) for 7 years Coach B: 2 years as a HS coach (QB coach, passing game coordinator, OC) including 1 year as OC 7 years as college QB, WR, and passing game coordinator 2 years as OC for a major college program 2 years as assistant head coach for a different major college program 1 year as WR coach in the NFL Played QB (NFL, Europe, CFL) for 5 years Coach C : 5 years in the NFL as RB coach 8 years in the NFL as WR coach (2 different teams) 2 years in the NFL as OC Played RB for 7 years in the NFL When you write it out, it can be seen that all of these candidates have relevant experience. All have both played in the NFL and coached in the NFL. Candidate C is the only one who actually has OC experience in the NFL, and has the most experience coaching in the NFL, and at 2 positions, for 2 different teams. Candidate B has the least coaching experience in the NFL, but counter balances that with more experience as OC and assistant HC at two different major college programs and with experience coaching 2 different positions. Candidate A actually has the least coaching experience, and the least varied coaching experience - he has never played or coached any position but QB, and has never been an OC or called plays at any level of the sport. Yet people are thumping the table for Candidate A and dismissing (what appear to be) highly qualified candidates B and C as "just being interviewed to check a box". The point is, these all seem to be qualified people, and the external candidates may be MORE qualified than the one in-house candidate - so it seems entirely appropriate to talk to them and find out what their experience at each level actually entailed and what they'd bring to the organization. And that's really what the Rooney Rule is about: getting clubs to at least talk to qualified people they might not otherwise talk to, and open the door for the NFL to be something than the "I've worked with you" closed circle of coaching candidates that it's been. Of course, clubs can use it to check a box by bringing in someone they'd never hire vs. using it to seek out and talk to qualified people, but that's their loss if they do.

I think officially, the contract isn't up until the new league year starts, so he's not a free agent. But the Bills aren't going to be Richards about this

Usually, when a player retires, his amortized signing bonus and his guaranteed salary are no longer due. The team can request repayment (or, in Brady's case, since it's reported most of it was still due, stop payment). This is the reason that Woods, at his retirement presser, carefully didn't use the word "retirement" but focused on how he could no longer be medically cleared to play football and how this was discovered at his exit medical - 'cuz he didn't want to return part of his last payday It remains to be seen how Brady is going to handle this, but potentially, the Bucs could get a break. I deleted that post because I found the link to where he actually did express thanks gratitude, so my post was incorrect.

Not since this fall https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/28/nfl-rooney-rule-changes-interviewing-process

I hate to say it, and you're both correct about Stafford's potential 😬 I had hoped being coached by McVay and surrounded by good players/supported by a good Defense would work it out of him, but Oh Boy, There it Was in the NFCCG. I think the difference is, the Bengals actually have a 3 man line that can get pressure and contain, with Hendrickson. The Bills don't. Well put. Beautiful assessment, just add "ripped away by poor offensive play, poor defense, and coaching".

I didn't see this actually confirmed, but Tim Graham is pretty reliable: They can, but they evidently did not choose to do so. Oh God Yes, Opt Out. "No" to "St Doug Marrone" as OL coach. NO!

When I read your OP, I was like "OK, maybe he wants to have a discussion" When I read the part about how it didn't bother you that your team lost, I When I read the part about how we're going to lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs next year, I was like "now that's some trolling" When I read the part about "I said it didn't bother me, to be clear. It's obviously disappointing. But so disappointing that I'll spend a week dwelling on it? Nope. The Chiefs have essentially been the host city of the AFC title game for four straight years. They'll have more chances. Losses are easy to stomach when the opponent was deserving. The Bengals outplayed them and won despite losing the OT coin toss. Tip your cap and move on.", I said: >>>Now That's Some Trolling<<< Kudos for having the balls to call a moderator "psychotic" for trotting out the Old Chestnut joke about Mom Dad and the Picnic, but the trolling is getting a bit out of hand. If it's truly unintentional, try to look at where you are and what you're writing from another POV PS you can't "respectfully" tell someone they're psychotic. That doesn't work. Clock does not run during 2 point conversion, just like it doesn't run during extra point. Sorry.

Yeah, he did really say it. I assume he's still here because it either reflects McDermott's personal philosophy or is something he is willing to accept. I think it's reflected organizationally: for example, obviously the Chiefs benefitted Big Time by trading for Ingram; the Rams benefitted by trading for Von Miller and by signing Beckham. I can't think of a significant mid-season move that Beane has made recently. He signed Jordan Phillips off waivers in 2018. Can anyone else? I don't think "their scheme" per se has "issues", depending upon what you mean by scheme (4-2-5 base, etc). It's the details of how they execute that scheme - how deep guys play, are they playing outside leverage, are they giving the WR a free release or jamming them? Some of these choices may be influenced by the capabilities of the players in the scheme - for example, Jackson and Wallace can not jam a receiver on the line and then recover. I do think both Frazier and McDermott are philosophically way way too slow to make adjustments, and I'm not sure overall we can win big games like that. But hopefully I'm wrong, and McDermott is growth-minded and will be willing and able to change.

Dude, if your idea of "attempts to have civil discussion" is to come on another team's message board and imply that they shouldn't spend a week dwelling on a loss to your team because "losses are easy to stomach when the opponent was deserving...tip your cap and move on", you really do need to revisit some of your life choices. Preferably the one which started back when you went on a picnic with your Dad and came home with your Mom. 😁

I love the part at 3:28 where Warner diagrams an RPO play: "splits two defenders, runs over another, picks up 14 yards on a play that should be dead in the water. This is where Josh Allen changes the game for the Buffalo Bills. Everything the Chiefs did was right, but even with that, he makes them wrong by picking up a 14 yd play, because he's a Beast". This is the aspect that frustrated Belichick in the Perfect Game and also in the 2nd game which we won - plays where his well-coached defense read the play correctly, knew what to do, and did it - and Josh Allen made it work anyway.

Fair point. Aside from injuries, the new OC hire (and any other vacancies) are a wild card for us.

This is a Chiefs fan who says he doesn't care that his team lost in the AFCCG, "This loss didn’t bother me for some reason"

The first six sentences, I agree with. (When I first read this, I thought, "Oh no, not a crowbar, spilt coffee would do". Then I thought, a crow bar. A CROW bar, I get it! Parfait! Le mot just!) According to Spotrac, for 2021 the Bengals D was 19th for spending and so was their OL. The OL has me SMH, it could be called "Jonah Williams and the Scraps", and you're right, aside from Williams it's made up of lower-round or undrafted players. The defense is actually not made up of 5th through 7th round picks. Hubbard and Hendrickson were 3rd round picks and Hendrickson is a beast. (Wish we would have signed him.) Pratt was a 3rd round pick. Awuzie was a 2nd, Apple was a first, Bell and Bates were 2nd round picks. So yeah, they got maybe 3 of 11 later round picks in there, but especially their 2ndary and their ends were drafted pretty high, and one of their LB. (Memo to Beane maybe the 2ndary needs more than 1 high pick investment?) None of which factual adjustment should take away from the key point, which is that the Bengals just proved that a defense that is not filled with all-stars, but has talented players that were coached well, played fiercely, and made good halftime adjustments can beat the Chiefs at home in the AFCCG. But we don't want to take the wrong lesson, and the idea that the Bengals D that "got it done" was mostly composed of guys from the late rounds is not correct.

He signed a 3 year contract extension in summer of 2020 and will probably be getting paid the Big Bucks for the next 18 months.

It must be like Jessica Rabbit said of Roger, "he makes me laugh"

If Thad Brown knows who the new guy will be, why not say? Otherwise, he's sounding as though he's infected with BBFS

In the game where the Titans gashed us on run D and the Bills defense didn't adjust, @Shaw66 commented on what he saw: Boy, does that "huge expanses of open field underneath the safeties and corners" have a familiar sound to it. It happened in the Houston playoff game near the end. It happened in the Titans game. It happened at the end of the Chiefs game. Some of the reasons and details may differ, but I'm very concerned about what seems to be a recurring theme here. I'm not sure it comes from Frazier, and not from McDermott. I think McDermott has a lot of influence on the D, and if this were something he saw as a fatal problem it would never happen again.

That's really kind of misrepresenting what Frazier said there. He said that they weren't executing, and if you're not executing, being in another personnel grouping isn't really going to solve it. That kind of doesn't make sense unless one feels that he felt the DL, more than the LB/CB, were the problem. At least not to me. This isn't the interview where Frazier said they don't like to make adjustments. That was in a piece on the Bills shown at halftime during the Oct 18 Titans game. He said something to the effect that "we don't like to adjust the gameplan". He cast it as causing the players to "lose confidence" by the message "we worked on this all week and now you're changing it already?"

Ah. Well, this clears up a lot: "if I were a Bills fan...."