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I woudn't disagree that age, recent injury history, and decline in 1st downs and yds/tgt between 2020 and 2021 combined with the need to make cap decisions make it reasonable to ask if Beasley is on the downward slope and it might be time to move on. I'm curious what "passer rating when targeting Beasley" means - where is this info available? how is it calculated? The thing is, if it's somehow trying to look at incompletions, sacks, interceptions etc when targeting a WR ....Beasley IS the slot guy, and he DOES run option routes so by the nature of his job description, if he and Josh aren't on the same page, Picks gonna Happen. Beasley has one of the higher completion % of the Bills WR, and by nature of often being the guy with the shallow routes, has a harder grind to get 1st downs. I think he can still play and is a genius at getting open vs. zone. But hard cap choices do have to be made. I agree with the folks upthread who say Beasley wouldn't accept a paycut. He thinks too highly of his professional skills.

Is there actually a link to an article here, per the thread title? Or just this tweet?

Where on earth do you get this stuff? For example when someone posted a link from the "save our chiefs" guys blurb about tension between Mahomes and Bieniemy and Reid I and others here took it apart and called BS, before it was taken down.

Right, nothing was wrong, he just "chose to leave for Jacksonville". Just FYI, when Andy Reid fired McDermott, nothing was said publically, McDermott found a lateral move as DC for Carolina, and left. That's who McD learned from and how he prefers to do things You're not fired...you're just "encouraged to explore opportunities elsewhere"

There was. No. Who TF is "Dinner"? If you mean "Dunne", I'd just like to point out that there's a certain plausible deniability aspect in that kind of language. "He was not contacted". Could be true. But when you sat down next to a guy and taped a show in a WNY bar with him, maybe you didn't need to contact him. Maybe you were already having a beer with him waiting for the show to begin and you asked him some questions and recorded his answers. But you didn't "contact him"! I'm not saying this is how Dunne is, I'm just pointing out that some members of the press can become "Sea Lawyers" when protecting a source is concerned.

~30% less receiving yards and ~40% fewer 1Ds on 5 more targets and the exact same number of receptions. What's "a little bit" look like to you? That's actually not a totally unreasonable suggestion value for value. Unless Bease renegotiates though, not sure the G-men have the cap space even after they dump Barkley

I don't agree that it would be better for him to be cut than traded. He's in line to get $6.1M between roster, workout bonuses and salary. I'm not so sure he gets that on the open market. He *might* get $6M in non-guaranteed salary, or he might get $3M, or he might get vet min. It's not just that, but he had a wildly successful 2020 running option routes and Mouse Davis/June Jones secondary route concepts. Those were a lot less successful this past season for a number of reasons. We don't know yet what kind of offense Ken Dorsey and Joe Brady intend to install, but if they intend to cut back on the option routes and Davis/Jones secondary route concepts, their offense might not suit Beasley as well.

I say this with the greatest respect for Beasley's toughness and his willingness to play hurt, but it was a fact that Beas was going down immediately after the catch in the 2nd half of the season (after MIA week 7). It showed in his first down production, 20 fewer 1sts. I'm not gonna say that wasn't "giving it his all", because it might be all and then some of what he had with an injury, but at some point the coaches and the player (if he's team focused) have to say "is my injured all really better than next man up?"

10 catches on 13 targets for 110 yds. No question he was "lit" that game. But he also got "lit up", speared in the ribs, and was not the same the rest of the season, with brief "flashes" in the 2nd half of the Tampa game and the Divisional playoff.

That could happen. Depends upon if the Bills manage to re-sign or decide to tender Bates I think. I'm kind of leaning towards the Bills wager Mongo's $500k roster bonus as a hedge against what they do otherwise in the draft, but it'll depend upon a bunch of stuff like who the Bills sign in FA We tender Bates and sign a good FA guard, he's gone.

I don't "want him gone", but the Bills have to make some hard cap decisions and Beasley obviously thinks well of himself. Beasley has played hurt for significant games the last 2 seasons. On the one hand "yea!" on the other hand sometimes I have questioned whether hurt Beasley was in fact >> uninjured McKenzie Last season, Beasley had as many targets (actually 5 more targets) as the previous year, the same number of receptions, but gained 274 fewer yards and 19 fewer first downs. That's a significantly diminished production. I can't remember the same "highlight reel" catches and moves that I saw in 2020. Now that may be the result of nursing an injury and "playing through it", but then that raises the question "can he stay healthy now?" Father time comes for us all, and I think it may have knocked on the door for the 33 year old Beasley. I would have said this, and yet look at what Magic Beane got for Tyrod Taylor and a couple other guys we all said "doubt a team will trade for him" There's also this - if he's cut, Cole can pick where he goes. If a team that doesn't have a great situation but has lotsa cap room trades for him, he has to retire or go.

No known guaranteed money. Bills save $6.1M if they move on. Cap hit is $1.5M

I think this is Beasley's camp knowing he may be a cap casualty or asked to take a salary cut by the Bills, and gauging what market there may be for him at his current deal. It would be in his interest to find a trade, because I don't think he's going to command what the Bills have contracted him for, on the open market. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cole-beasley-10318/ He has $4.9k salary with no guarantees He has $1M in bonuses and $200k workout bonus So $6.1M overall. Cap hit is $7.6M He's sort of in a no-mans-land of "middle class" WR AAV in his contract - just outside the top 32, sandwiched in between some rookies of varying production and a couple of vets (TY Hilton higher, Marvin Jones lower). He's just ahead of a couple of aging vets, AJ Green and Emmanuel Sanders who got $6M 1 year "help us win!" deals. He's 33 and while he's an excellent slot, he's never had the track record or reputation of those guys. IMHO, he didn't like the Bills bringing in Sanders last season. He wanted to have more of that role and less of the hard hits over the middle.

In that same sit-down interview, McKenzie said he got on the team plane after KC and started trash talking and finger-pointing the defense. He also said he came in at 11 am and missed the general team meeting. If I were a ST player or a defensive player, I wouldn't talk to McKenzie and get my brothers thrown under the bus by him publicly.

This is weird. When I quote your post, I see a link to an Andy Reid comment When I look at the post I see a link to a tweet about McDermott: And wow, that man's eyes. He's haunted by the end of that game, but you can tell he's also determined to process it and move on.

We can predict which members will respond and about how they'll respond, too. Very true to type. Do you subscribe to Dunne? What else does he say past the publicly accessible part?

So let's just follow this to its conclusion. If McDermott says that, then the X's and O's squad will be breaking down role/responsibilities for that call and looking at which players did or did not execute those responsibilities. It will end by fingering specific players - which is something McDermott seems to want to avoid. And given that we know players who got key penalties or visibly missed a block or the like in a playoff loss have LITERALLY GOTTEN DEATH THREATS from fans, I'm with McD here.

Yeah. OK. From the part that's available to the non-paying public we have this: If that represents the general attitude on the team, those players got some growin' up to do. We celebrated after we beat KC in the regular season like it was our Superbowl "THEM BILLS A PROBLEM" then proceeded to lose to the Titans and Jaguars. Just because you CAN beat any team (on paper, based on skill level) doesn't mean you WILL or you DEFINITELY WOULD'VE. KC melted down the Bengals after barely beating us. A big letdown the week after a big win is not uncommon. I suspect one of the players Dunne spoke with is Isaiah McKenzie who 1) is butt-hurt over his benching 2) who by his own account, got on the team plane after the KC loss and loudly finger pointed the defense "I have to go home and pack...because of YOU" 3) who by his own account, missed the team meeting that following morning and came in late You can see where McKenzie would be primed to feel "preach accountability but don't practice it". I think McDermott made the decision to keep it in the position groups because he knew blabbermouths like McK would hang their teammates up to dry if they knew specific players to blame. Meanwhile we have 'Zo Alexander who is still plugged in with a number of the players and who says "the players most definitely know" and "the players will handle it". And Siran Neal, who says Maybe the players like McKenzie that Dunne talked to have a different idea of what accountability means.

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Or, maybe the Ravens offered something that's far less than Lamar thinks he's worth, and he decided to play on his $18M 5th year option and see how it goes Good decision? Bad decision? Time will tell

We'll hope this doesn't happen, but keep in mind the NFL was also responding to the NFLPA wanting to "keep our members safe". So if the NFLPA as a whole has decided it now doesn't see a need, or the majority of members are now against it, protocols and restrictions are less likely to be reimposed. On the other hand, if they have guys going to the ER, yes, you're right, the NFL and NFLPA will change. I don't know how many players got boosted, but Beane said they had 6 players who weren't vaccinated. 5 of them got Covid (known because they were following the unvaccinated timeline): Beasley, Davis, Klein, Spencer Brown, Star Lotulelei. If other teams have similar experience, there aren't many players in the NFL who weren't either vaccinated or infected (or both).

If you've done it before, then it really shouldn't be too big of a deal to find the post where you've done it and link it here

Diggs had this to say about it:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/I/IsabAn00.htm And when we say "it hasn't worked out", we mean (click to embiggen) In 2020, he saw the field for 34% of the offensive snaps. 21 receptions on 35 targets for 224 yds is pretty pathetic ROI for that 2nd round pick. Compare and contrast McKenzie saw the field for 25% of the offensive snaps in 2020 and caught 30 balls on 34 targets for 282 yds Similar Y/Tgt and Y/Catch on similar snap counts for 2021 Isabella is due $1.12M salary for 2022

“Word around the combine” Way to source your stuff like a mature journalist, Graham. That is incredible “weak sauce” and rumor.