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Did you say that about Keuchly as well? And Jake Locker? The OP question is whether salary is guaranteed against retirement ? I think it is not.

I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on?

This is the result of “tampering”, he wasn’t released, right?

True providing he’s willing to file the paperwork after June 1. But even if the Bills don’t request repayment of his bonus, I think Joe B is mistaken that he gets his guaranteed salary this year if he hangs up his cleats

OK, Joe B has an Athletic article speculating that Star might retire and talking about the horrid cap impact of his guaranteed salary & bonuses if he does It’s my understanding that contract language guaranteed salary for injury, or for skill and injury, but salary is never guaranteed against retirement. Also, it’s my understanding the team may ask for the amortized portion of the signing bonus that counts against future years to be returned can anyone more knowledgeable confirm or deny?

Hey, I can’t listen right now, any chance of a brief summary?

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4 pm, but tomorrow is just "official tampering". Actual signing not until 17th 4 pm. I don't think he does either. Seems like we get 1 or 2 every year.

As of 10 pm Sunday, Spotrac appears to have the Mario Addison giveback captured, but not the Feliciano signing, and says we have $10.1M of cap space left. The Feliciano deal is reported to be 3 yrs/$17M or average of $5.6M/yr, but given how Milano and Williams contracts were structured it may actually only impact the cap by $3 or 4M So, guesstimate would be we have $6-7M remaining at present. My desireability of remaining FA signings: Corey Bojorquez Ike Boettger Levi Wallace Isaiah McKenzie Dean Marlowe Bojo, Boettger, and Wallace were all UDFA so even though they're RFA, an original round tender wouldn't give us anything. A second round tender is $3.4M. A right-of-first-refusal tender is $2.1M

I could be mistaken and obviously the Bills have found some gems in the back of the draft, but it wouldn't surpirse me for the Beane-meister to package some of those 5 picks to move around a bit in the 1st 3 rounds.

So what about Dean Marlowe? He's played very well for us at times. He seems to be the "forgotten man" Apparently we don't all know. Say more....

Thanks! Stuff like that happens to me all the time, spoken and written. So here's the paradox: we could run block at times. We ran all over the Patriots for 190 yds. We ran all over the Chargers. All over the Broncos. Above league average against the Patriots in the 2nd game and against the Jets in the 2nd game. Now that 2nd Jets game was half Josh. But the Patriots, Chargers, Broncos, and 2nd Patriots game were not. So what made the difference between games where we ran successfully, and games where we perhaps wanted to run or needed to run (Titans, KC, maybe Zona)? Titans and KC we had Ford playing injured and Feliciano not back. I dunno. I'm asking. There were games where I believe it would have benefited us to run where it seems as though Daboll ran up the "White Flag" and didn't even try - Baltimore in the playoffs comes to mind.

Every time I read this I'm just like SMH

Ah...if the OL couldn't pass block worth a damn, how did the Bills manage to be #3 in the league in passing yards and 1st downs by passing? There were times when Allen had to save himself and buy time for a pass, but there were other times when he had time to light a cigar and take a couple of puffs back there.

So FWIW, $3.4M/yr slots him in pretty high at the #2 CB position. #36 or so overall. For LG $2.2M slots in at #17 or 18 overall.

He is an RFA, but he was undrafted, so as discussed above the compensation choices are limited. Where would you tender him?

The thing is, and I said this elsewhere with regard to Boettger, because Wallace was an UFDA rookie, the RFA is relatively meaningless. The NFL finally announced its tender values last Friday. First-round tender: $4,766,000 Second-round tender: $3,384,000 Original-round tender: $2,183,000 Right of first refusal tender: $2,133,000 If we give him an original round tender or a right of first refusal tender, the lack of draft pick consequence will not necessarily deter other teams too much. If we give him a 2nd round tender - do we feel he's worth $3.4M/yr?

It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma at this point. Unless, as aforementioned, they believe having Ford and Feliciano on the field at the same time is somehow key (I am uncertain).

It's worth remembering that the Bills re-signed Spain to a 3 year, $15M contract and pulled him out of the starting lineup for Ford then ultimately cut him with a bunch of guaranteed salary. They also benched Murphy much of the season. I "get it" fans and members of the media throw their arms up at this, but I don't think Beane and McDermott view guys as slotted in to the starting lineup based on their paycheck (or draft position). I think Beane views re-signing our own FA and FA as ideally, a place to ensure we go into the draft with a team that has few holes. Then he can draft more towards BPA and less towards need, and hopefully bring in guys who compete to make the team better. Maybe I'm just hopeful that they plan to re-sign Boettger (who could compete with the oft-injured Ford) and draft someone who could make them erase that pencil and rewrite it a bit. 🤷‍♂️ I agree with the folks who point out that it's hard to make things better by keeping them the same. Though it is a valid point that we never did have an OL of Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Feliciano-Williams on the field together.

I agree with you, not necessarily about OT but that we need to draft/develop a C/G. Morse is a bit scary at C because of the concussion history. It would be nice to do what way back, the Bills did with Eric Wood where he played guard initially to learn the ropes then slid over to center.

Do you mean Levi Wallace? Isn't he a FA this year?

What do you call "a lot"? The Bills ran 1,2 sets 10% 2019 (104 plays) and 8% 2020 (91 plays). So it seems we're talking about 13 plays? Ran 1,3 sets 4% in 2019 (43 plays) and 3% in 2020 (36 plays). So we're talking about 7 plays? (Sharp Football Stats) If the QB operates best out of a spread, how come the vast majority of the time the Bills ran 1,1 sets (3 WR)? Over 70% of the time. Only 15% of the time in the 4 WR spread "your QB operates best out of" doesn't sound very wise. The majority of the time last year and this year, the Bills were operating out of a 1,1 set with 1 TE and 1 RB. And the run/pass split was very similar. We did run more 2,2 last year with Pat Dimarco, and basically none this year with Gilliam, and we overwhelmingly ran out of that set. I could be wrong, but I think most of the difference was 1) emphasis in preseason and practice 2) churn on OL Maybe. But he was so underrated that the Bengals put him on their practice squad and have not yet re-signed him, so apparently two teams of NFL OL evaluators don't see it.

When he played outside, I thought he did OK for a guy without much experience. At one point in one of the games - Williams had gone out, Nsekhe was in for him. Dawkins went out, Bates was in for him. We were driving down the field and the announcer suddenly clued and said "the Bills are playing backups at 3 of the 5 positions on OL" It wasn't that long, dozen snaps or something. Seattle game I think.

SMDH

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