Hapless Bills Fan

Why? Jordan lives up to his "Big9797" nickname, but he kind of sucks at 1T DT. Much more of a 3T guy.

Can he play outside corner? Zone eyes with enough press man ability to be able to recover if he's beat on the line?

I am reading this stuff and SMH. Really, Beane? Oh, my, that made me snort.

Curious why you say that. He wasn't what they hoped for in Cleveland, but in Atlanta I thought he was good, in fact in 2020 I wanted him. After his rookie season, in Atlanta he was a 45 ypg, 660 yd per season, 10.2 y/r, 78% catch % kind of guy. What didn't you like?

That's 'cuz they made him a post-June 1 designation. The difference is that 1) they'll take on dead cap from him next season 2) they don't realize the cap space until ......after June 1 (they don't have to pay him any roster bonuses due and he can sign elsewhere immediately)

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Rehabbing a torn ACL. Tore it Oct. 18th, so if things took the typical course, he had surgery ~Nov 14 and would hit 9 months post-surgery in mid-August. (9 months is significant because of data showing that athletes who return earlier than 9 months are 7x more likely to re-injure)

I'm not aware of any reason against it. I believe there's a provision for this, but I forget the term. But that's also a reason to not tender him where the lowest tender is $2.4M or something like that - other teams may be wary of signing a guy coming back from an ACL, so if we want him, we can make him an offer and bring him into camp. I *think* (not 100% sure) that if he's still rehabbing a football-related injury, he can continue to use our trainers and facility for his rehab.

Vegas. gotta keep up!

Discuss in the new Chandler Jones signed by Vegas thread

Um, No. The Bills starting 3TDT is Ed Oliver. He's still here for 2 years; the Bills will undoubtedly pick up his 5th year option. We did sign an additional guy to play 3TDT (that's Settle), he more or less replaces who we thought Vernon Butler could be. Did you want us to re-sign Butler? We did lose the guy who ended the season as our starting 1TDT - but Phillips also started the season as a "healthy scratch" for several games and played behind Lotulelei. Given "the best ability is availability" I'm not certain it woulda been a great move to give a 3 year contract to a guy who has basically played less than 2 seasons of the last 3 seasons due to injury. And we added a 1TDT to back up Lotulelei. Details I know, but if you're going to kvetch get the details right. Yes. The difference between a 1TDT and a 3TDT and who plays what role for the Bills, apparently. Also failed to distinguish between "let walk" and "cut" for our RG (and between a Dime back and a safety hybrid but that last is a nit)

Not. So. Fast.

Perhaps If true, I do think it gives those agents lower credibility, certainly with the Bills and any FO personnel from that tree. Nobody likes to get "played", and if there was another negotiation the Bills didn't pursue because of this commitment, it stings. OTOH, McKissic went out with a concussion/neck injury in Week 13 and didn't return to play the rest of the season, even though he cleared concussion protocol. It's also possible that the Bills weren't guaranteeing the contract for injury until the season started, or that they wanted a more thorough medical vetting before signing, or something along those lines (other possibilities for objection to contracts exist)

Fair take overall. I was just making the point that in addition to the "Mikeys" who "hate everything", the season ending has stirred up some impatience/angst among a different fan contingent

At this point it's usually the player's agent. The announcement was he "intends to sign" and the amount of the contract. The players who haven't been cut are technically still under contract until 4 pm and can't sign with the Bills, so the Bills won't announce it.

Eyerolling this narrative, not your post. It's possible he has a family in Washington or likes the idea of catching passes from Wentz and "all things being equal" would rather stay with the same team. But I'd guess when it came down to the actual contract, there were some details he didn't like.

League office doesn't open for business for another 3 hrs

Some details of the contract he didn't like?

Also a fair point. But winning cures everything. There's a counterpoint that we haven't yet shown we can win it all, or even get to the championship as the Cheats*** did

Fair point. You do have to look at the sources - some people are pretty uniformly negative and critical of everything, regardless But after a "got blown out" performance in the AFCCG last season and having, statistically, the #1 overall defense this season, I think an additional block of fans are understandably salty about the way the season ended, and looking for signs that the team is committed to taking a further step and not just treading water and staying "competitive"

Blue thread. Blue balls for everyone here. "Yes, your Blueness"

?? who are the 2 or 3 tight ends? We have one starting quality TE - Knox. Period. Otherwise, I agree, at this point no glaring holes, but thin on backup I feel you've accurately described Beane's approach. Here's the problem with that approach: some of us (myself included) have concerns that while it may keep us in contention, it may keep us from taking the final step to Championship level. There are a few positions which are expensive to acquire in FA, but also very difficult to acquire for a good team that is drafting late in the 1st round. QB is one. Pass rusher, Edge or DE, is another. CB is a third. Beane got his starting QB and his #1 CB. In contrast to our previous GM, he "did what it took". But he seems unwilling to take the needed steps to obtain that top-tier pass rusher that most of us think we need, all the while reiterating a consistent theme in his last 3 "end of season" pressers that we need to do more to "affect the QB" we are facing. Maybe one of the guys we got (Rousseau, Basham, Epenesa, now Settle) will take that step and become That Guy. Maybe we'll get someone in this draft who becomes that guy. Maybe some of us are wrong that a top-tier pass rusher is a critical unmet need. Or maybe Beane needs to stop filling his trunk with dresses from the markdown rack and go for that kicky MiuMiu number

To be fair to Beane here, McDermott and Frazier's insistence on a DL rotation is IMO a big stumbling block. When you have to have 8-9 guys on the roster who can all play capably for 30-45% of the snaps, it's hard to find cap space for a Star.

He did not look good. In fact, he so much did not look good that the Giants are signing someone else and dropping Webb to #3. I remember that. There were even some national pundits with the "take" that we'd drafted a potential replacement for Allen if he didn't work out. Like this https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2890567-bills-jake-fromm-praised-by-anonymous-nfl-exec-hell-play-10-to-12-years

I dunno. I think it's giving him the "off-season recovering from injury pass" at a point where the roster is expanded (offseason), his cap hit is still relatively small, and the new OL coach wants to evaluate the talent under contract vs. the talent brought in with the draft or available in FA before sending the turk. Of course, when Beane says "he's started more games injured than healthy", that's damning in its own way. The NFL takes a hideous toll on guys' bodies, and it takes a special type of human body to hold up to that I personally don't think "fire under his ass" is the problem for Ford. I think he simply couldn't play effectively the way he was being asked to play. Whether that means a different coach/scheme will help or whether he can't cut it in the NFL, remains to be seen. I'd bet on the latter (can't cut it), but I don't fault Beane for keeping a guy on his rookie deal through the off-season. Agree with you completely. Draft Plan B. Don't bet the rent (or Josh Allen's health) on "hoping Ford stops sucking".