Hapless Bills Fan

wonder where PFR is getting the stats I quoted then, and why they differ

Did he tell you that on his way to a high level meeting? And what kind of car does he drive?

FWIW I finished re-watching all of the passes in the Dolphins game. Here's how I break them down: I finished going through the pass plays vs. Dolphins. Here's how I break it down: 1. bad decisions - 4. INT and a throw while being hit in the first half, two balls thrown under pressure that were almost picked in the 2nd half. Those gotta go 2. poor throws - 3. Too high for Diggs, too high for Singletary, led Sanders too far. Technically you could count the INT to Diggs but I think that was decision. 3. throwaways - 4. One that I score as a throwaway, could arguably be called a high throw to Beasley but I'm pretty sure it was intentional. 4. completions - 17. By far, most of these are short swing passes or quick routes. The TD and another completion to Diggs were nice, nice throw to Knox and across the middle to Sanders (similar route to the Diggs pick but thrown beautifully) 5. incompletions - 5. Batted pass, rushed throw, off his back foot under pressure, great defense, failed try for DPI or DH on Diggs I agree with Kubiak that many of the short-pass completions are a positive development from Allen, because he just wouldn't take them last season and he didn't take enough of them last week. I think last year and certainly 2018, most of the throwaways would have been off the menu. Allen rarely threw it away. He would pull it down and run first. So they're going to count against his completion percentage instead of as scrambles. FWIW not having them would raise his completion percentage about 7%. The incompletions are going to be there. The defense gets paid too. Pressure gets home, guys are covered, passes get defended. The poor throws - Over both games, some of it I think is Josh not having timing down with Sanders missing camp. Sanders is 6 of 14 (42.9%). Diggs is 13 for 21 (61.9%), Beasley is 12 of 17 (70.6%). But I think defenses are smarter than that. So what do I think is the problem? It's not all throwaways. I think the bad decisions are part of it. Allen is frustrated by the coverage and by dinking-n-dunking and he's trying too hard to make something happen when sometimes there are yards to be had on a short throw. That's gotta stop. Part of it, though, is that defenses have figured out how to defend some of the route concepts we killed people with last season, and we're going to have to adjust and come up with new strategies. Part of it is our OL not being "up to speed" though, they were better this week. And part of it is, you know, after you run up 35 points on a few teams dinking-and-dunking and running the ball, the "Clue Bird" will land that it's all fine-and-dandy to hold Josh Allen to 171 yards and 2 TD, but if they run for 143 yards and score 3 rushing TD, YOU STILL LOSE.

Yes, he was

I'll take it a bit further. Yes, they played aggressively against the Steelers with a lot of 4WR and 5WR sets, because they were expecting Pittsburgh to do what they did last year -be "Blitzburgh", especially with Tuitt on IR - and they figured they'd find matchups to exploit that way. Instead, Pittsburgh caught the Bills with their "football pants" down by being able to take our OL to the woodshed with 5 guys - which is not entirely on those 5 guys given that Pittsburgh was clever about disguising pressure, overloading one side of the line, and dropping the other side into coverage. They were also clever flooding the areas that are Allen's bread-and-butter with 7 DB. Allen commented that he had some short passes, but he tried to be aggressive and go for the deep stuff and missed. The Fins were more aggressive in their pressures and counted on man coverage, but they played the same thing - to take away the bread-and-butter middle stuff. Except this time, Allen was prepared to take the short passes and the Bills were prepared to run the ball down their throats. So we won.

That's....Sarcasm, Right?

Won't help me. Ed Oliver's a Grown Ass Man and he rides a Hoss.

They're all still there, they just bootleg it from different sources or say "you're going to have to trust me on this, but..."

I'm gonna bet there is a bunch of fine print on those tickets that reserve all sorts of rights to the seller, including the right to impose new restrictions on entry and the right to require compliance with state and local regulations. Sometimes elected public officials don't seem to have a very good understanding of the law. I'm not saying that's the case here, but it seems possible.

I thought this thread deserved a "bump" so Imma put this here. Sal Capaccio neat moving diagram of Diggs TD On that second play, I don't know why more of us aren't OMG OMG the Bills drew up a running play and executed it perfectly! Whoooop whooooop! I mean that play had it all: Dawkins and Feliciano holding a strong initial block on the left, Morse and Ford holding a block on the right, Knox coming across the backfield to block the LB, Feliciano getting out to the second level to block the LB, Sanders with a nice downfield block. It was nice.

762 is closer to 800, but it says "season tickets" not "holders" https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/762-season-ticket-refunds-granted-by-bills?utm_campaign=sharebutton&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=WGRAM Question: what would normally happen if a season ticket holder gives up their seats and requests a refund? Don't they normally lose their priority?

No, the most recent news I could find was an article saying it would be back "end of week 1/early week 2" Now that we're into week 3, it's clear that timeline was off If Ida known I would never have paid for GP this season

First of all, "nothing is occurring" is not a reasonable characterization of anything I've written. Second, I have provided quantifiable stats. Have a good day.

I don't think this is true of even what the Dolphins and Steelers did. The Steelers have a stout enough DL that they could send 3 or 4 and get pressure and flood zone downfield. The Dolphins played a lot of man and sent more guys That's what the Chiefs did in the AFCCG, only we fooled them Fins and did some quick passes and ran a lot.

This used to be allowed, but it's my understanding that with Covid they fixed one amount for rookies and another for vets last season, and kept it that way this season

The pocket time for Allen so far this season is 1.2 sec vs 2.6 sec last year, so no one is expecting 3 or 4 seconds. But I think the routes are drawn up expecting 2-2.5 sec of protection. I agree ball is coming out too slow, but Allen has never liked to take the checkdown and he has always tried to go for the "kill shots". I don't know if you recall but last season I facetiously suggested attaching blaze orange 10' fiberglass "Snow poles" to Singletary and Knox to attract Allen's attention. It's not that he doesn't know they're there, it's that he doesn't WANT to go there. It's a different problem. To Allen's credit, he acknowledged that after the Pitts. game and he took them against Miami. Maybe, but by all reports Allen was 🔥 in camp, so I don't think it's mechanics per se. To my recollection it wasn't uncommon for Allen to miss high or wide on a few of the first passes of the game last season. It's when he misses the first few where he has time, but then doesn't have time or take the short ones he can hit.

Yeah, that's what he says, but I think the truth is probably more nuanced than that. Like, see above, he's saying "turn, throw it" at a point where a short curl route would break, but where the curl route on that play actually breaks is several seconds past that point ,and when Warner says "throw it", two WR and two DBs have not separated and it seems to me it's too soon to throw. I think that's a little problem in the route design against an aggressive defense. At other times, I think Allen sees the short throws, he's just not taking them. He's going for the kill shot. That's who he is, but it's a different problem than not seeing the throws, if that makes sense. And he learned from it - this past Sunday against Miami, Allen took those short quick throws to good effect. I do think the Pitts. defense confused Allen at times, and again, as I said above, Kevin Butler said he'd come up with something the Bills hadn't seen before and he was going to "make the durn Bills figure it out" and he evidently did. I thought Chris Simms had a more nuanced and understanding take. It's not that he thought Allen was good, but he understood why what Pittsburgh was doing was effective with the option routes some of the Bills WR run and created confusion. But whaddo I know.

Of which game? The Miami game? The game where it was 89 degrees and sunny and 78 degree dewpoint? The one where players were cramping up with fatigue and getting IVs to rehydrate? I'd have a glassy look in my eyes, just from physical effort in pads and cleats in the heat. Then there's context. Between the 3rd and 4th Q - you mean, after we'd just completed a long pass-centric TD drive and were leading 21 to zip? Or after the actual span between the 3rd and 4th Q, after Allen was leading the Bills on a grind-the-clock, 5:24 11 play drive ending in a TD so that we were leading 28 to zip? SMDH. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw Allen looking kind of dazed on the sidelines, but I would be surprised if it didn't have a lot more to do with physical effort expended in miserable conditions. You seem to be backing away from the notion that we should all accept that Allen is "simply not good" if he doesn't play to your satisfaction this coming Sunday. I'll take that as a positive sign.

True, you didn't say "totally". You said "Allen has lost his confidence, his mechanics, and vision". So what are you saying then? He sorta sometimes lost his confidence, his mechanics, and his vision, except when he magically recovered them to make some great reads and throws, then lost them again? That sounds improbable to me.

As a new member, you are restricted from starting your own threads. As a mod, I can do it for you. I think in calling Allen "among the worst QBs in the league" you are stat-following, and not actually watching the game. I find Cover1 and Jim Kubiak and a couple other breakdowns here very helpful in building understanding.

GTFO. The thing about Wyatt Teller is that he actually started something like 7 games at LG his rookie season, I think when McDermott put Teflon Juan in a headlock and said "You Will Bench Ducasse". So we knew he could actually play in the league, and it was a needed roles on OL issue that saw him traded. Anderson did not look as hoped during PS.

No, protecting him last week wouldn't have stopped a claim this week. That protection stopped after the game on Sunday. If you play Sunday, you designate your protected players for the following week Tues at 4 pm and that extends through the end of the game next Sunday. But other teams can claim them Monday or Tues until 4 pm. I think the timing shifts if you play Thurs or Monday, but I don't know how.

The Eagles weren't "awarded" him off the practice squad. PS guys are already free agents and only go through waivers when they're initially cut or if they're elevated to the roster then cut again. The Eagles offered him a contract on their 53-man roster (and must pay him for 3 weeks and count him against their 53-man, whether or not they keep him there). The Bills could have countered. Anderson would also have had a right to say "No thanks, I'm good here!" and stay on the Bills PS. But, there's a big difference between NFL minimum salary and practice squad money, so that wouldn't be in his interest.

You can always block the guy if you feel that way about it.

I don't think Josh faced a lot of 3 or 4 man pressures last season because frankly, not that many teams can "bring it" with 3 or 4 consistently, especially if we might keep blockers in and of course, there was always the possibility that Allen would escape and run. So I think part of what slowed Josh initially was that he wasn't familiar with some of the 7 man looks the Steelers were giving him and the Bills weren't expecting them. He was looking at it and decoding it the first few series, and that should be OK vs. just assuming you know what you're seeing and throwing a pick. In the second play breakdown where Warner was saying it just becomes a 3 deep over 4 coverage, I'm not sure that's something dual threat NFL QBs see a lot. I think Warner saw it a lot, because in the Greatest Show on Turf days the Rams used to run a fair amount of 4 and 5 wide splitting Faulk out, and teams did that to counter. Warner was not a dual threat QB at all, he might pick up a first down with a slide now and again. Kevin Butler did promise they were going to show the Bills "something they hadn't seen before", give him credit for perhaps following through on that.