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We'll do our own "eye test" on that one You said what you were fairly quoted as saying "one of the worst". You then backtracked to 23rd out of 32 (mediocre, middle of the NFL) to 27 out of 32 depending upon the metric. You were asked for the source of those stats and how some of them were defined. You didn't answer. It's kind of hard to debate against unsourced, undefined stuff. Someone else posted some (equally unsourced) stats claiming the Bills OL is comparable to the Ravens, Bengals and Steelers and "exactly at the average of the 7 AFC teams with records above 0.500". How about if you go debate that? Oh wait, without knowing the source and what that means...you can't I raised a number of points questioning the meaning of low values on some of your stats. You didn't respond, just repeated them 🤷‍♂️

I could be wrong, but I suspect that the same people are not arguing these disparate viewpoints. There were plenty of people on here at the time who were harshly critical of Dareus and his actions, and especially that after-practice drag race.

Norwell was very likely not on the trade market. Sure, the Jags would like a draft pick, but they're already having a hard enough time keeping Lawrence upright

Valid. Mia vs MIA too subtle. I edited. I will take the opportunity to add in, it's not that I don't think our OL needs improvement, especially at G. I do. But I don't think they're necessarily the primary reason for struggles in the passing game, when we struggle. Scheme plays a role (we seem susceptible to stunts), and so does the QB play (looking for the deep shot vs. looking for the quick pass)

Hi! Meet Scott7975. He may possibly be ScottLaw's Brudda by another mudda. I agree with you. They are average. There are two points here: 1) Kubiak's point, that sometimes Allen is looking for well-covered downfield throws and waiting for something to come open, when he could take a short throw to one of two wide-open receivers right in front of him, and trust his teammates to make a play 2) My corollary, that the line would look sufficient more often and like a complete jailbreak less often, if Allen did this Allen is getting better at this. I see encouraging signs. In the KC game I saw stuff where I was YES! He threw into the Blitz to the Hot Read! and YES! He took the checkdown! But then in the Tenn. game and the 1st half of the MIA game, a step back. And if the other team scores 20 or 21 points on offense while we're figuring it out (as Miami could have were they more competent on offense), it's liable to be an L. When You're Right, You're Right.

I think you're missing the point, but I doubt anything I could say would penetrate your mental armor and suffice to explain it.

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-how-josh-allen-and-bills-capitalized-on-dolphins-blitzing-ways/article_01f0b9aa-3b5d-11ec-a100-bf764b489d38.html For those who say the Bills never run screens, 1/3 of the 16 plays run in the 2Q were screens. Some of them worked quite well. He has this to say about the 1st half: So for those blaming the RBs or blaming the OL, Another Country Heard From. About the Blitz: 12 for 15 numbers sound like the reason Allen doesn't get blitzed so much any more. On the Bills first Q offensive woes (only 9 plays) Kubiak points to the play after Allen's long run: Let's say that again: "Miami wasn't playing great defense, Allen was not attacking the Dolphins' weaknesses." Allen says the right stuff (for example, on the broadcast with the Mannings) about needing to take the short stuff in order to get teams out of the two high safety looks. But when he's on the field, and his adrenaline is rocking, the "blinders" still go on at times and he simply WILL NOT take what the defense is handing him on a platter. Fortunately he snapped out of it in the second half, as Kubiak grades him 100% for both the 3Q and 4Q. Kubiak concludes: and concludes: I don't see anything here about how we've got the worst OL in the league that simply doesn't give Allen the time he needs to function. Allen can lead the Bills to wins behind this OL; he simply has to keep his composure and take what the defense gives him, even if that means passing up some of the "kill shots"

The Magic 8 Ball says "likely to occur"

Some would argue that Laurent Duvernay Tardif could be a better OG than anyone on our team. I dunno - he's coming back from a broken hand in preseason, a year off, and was available because a 6th round rookie outplayed him. So it's not a clear-cut "yeah he's better" thing. I would have like to see us make a push for Brandon Scherff from the WFT. It's a bit of a risk because he'd be coming back from a knee injury and hasn't played since week 4. But he's an excellent guard IMO and could be an improvement. The thing is, he's got an $18M salary and is a FA next year, so you're not gonna see Beane giving up a high pick for a 9 game rental. I wondered if this might be a case where we send them Trubisky and a lower pick for Scherff and they keep part of his salary, but that's just a lot of moving parts. I thought that was the most likely case. Teams just don't normally trade healthy, starting OG who are capable of playing at a high level because everyone needs better OL play than they've got

I don't think so. If he's not happy being the Rams #4 WR behind Kupp, Woods, and Jefferson, he's not gonna be thrilled at being the #5 WR on the Bills behind Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, and Davis.

Where are these stats coming from? How do they define "pocket time"? But even taking your stats at face value, you started out contending "we have one of the worst OLs in the league" Another way to frame "9th worst in the league" for pressure on pass attempts is 23rd in the league - middle third. Mediocre. I don't disagree that Allen makes the OL look far better than it is at times with his escapability, but he also passes up quick passes to open receivers many QB would take and some would say Allen should take, in favor of holding the ball and going for the deep shot. This tendency makes the OL look worse. Allen takes hits because he fights to get something on every play vs. throwing the ball away or taking the checkdown. That means he's getting hit at a higher rate. Stats mean something, but they don't necessarily mean what you might initially think they mean.

I'm actually very fond of trout. I have a killer recipe that calls for it to be brushed with egg white then crusted with rosemary and ground walnuts and baked on parchment. I also like it whole, brushed with olive oil, sprinkled with coarse salt, and grilled. If you got lemon infused olive oil so much the better.

It's drought. You're Dead to Me. Though mid-draught is actually quote probable

Details in good John Wawrow AP piece: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-business-buffalo-new-york-a0c2978fe879bcd632a5480443d34581

That's why I think the best post on the whole thread has been the guy pointing out that it's a problem DUI is treated so very differently whether it does or doesn't result in a serious accident with injuries/death

I agree, my point is to compare the lengthy investigation and reluctance to discuss charges in KC vs. hearing the very next day that DUI resulting in death charges are expected against Ruggs. It seems rushed. It could be the difference between states and cities of course. Perhaps LV has learned to handle DUI investigations more expeditiously.

Let's flip this around. Allen had 42 passes. They were not all thrown on the run. In many of them, he had time to get to his 3rd read. Even given Josh's escapability, it would defy logic and common sense that our passing offense is #6 for pass ypg and our rush offense is #8 in rush ypg (and yes, several of the teams ahead of us have QB who run more than Josh does), while our OL is one of the worst in the league.

Marcel L-J puts up play diagram of Poyer pick

Correct. Somehow it takes months to get results back and complete an investigation in MO when the Superbowl winning HC's son is involved, but 6-7 hrs is enough in Nevada.

I doubt it. IF something changed his mind (which I don't know), IMHO it would be his competitive nature coming to terms with the reality that he could take all personal precautions to avoid getting Covid and still get sidelined for a game by NFL rules if he's declared a close contact of someone who isn't as careful. He might think the rules suck, but they're still the rules and he'd still be sidelined. For a guy who said missing a game was more painful to him than playing on a broken leg was, that just might be a factor. Hope not. Cross your fingers!

Well, I've seen Josh unmasked doing interviews sitting next to Beasley, also unmasked. So either the NFL has decided it's OK for the players to do interviews unmasked and sitting right next to each other, or Mr. Toothgap quietly hauled his freight to the vaccination station. I dunno. I tend to agree with those who argued that the Bills were not going to sign Josh to a long-term deal this preseason unless he got vaxxed. Would suck to guarantee him money and then have him do a Dawkins or Sweeney. But who knows.

More likely Tanner Gentry getting covid/close contact and smooching Josh (just kidding on that last but) made the Bills think "oh ***** we better hang on to Mitch". But I could be wrong, I don't think they would have parted with Mitch for a pick, even a 2nd. I think they would have wanted to exchange the risk of downgrading at backup for a player who might help them NOW who do you mean by "him" and what rules have been broken? Can you say more/share screenshots?